Neji was right...
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The Blind Avenger
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Here is a twist also,
Naruto and Sasuke had powerful trainers.
Naruto had Jiraya, and Sasuke had Orochimaru both of the legendary sannin. But everyone trained alone or with their team (Sensei etc).
So that argument is invalid IMO.
Naruto and Sasuke had powerful trainers.
Naruto had Jiraya, and Sasuke had Orochimaru both of the legendary sannin. But everyone trained alone or with their team (Sensei etc).
So that argument is invalid IMO.
Honord Sage
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Because life is like a hammer it lets you know when you are wrong from experience, the Young only see the ideal and try to hid from reality the old accept reality because they have seen it first hand how it moves the world.
neji thought he was right til after that fight with naruto
he realized that in the end his dad chose to die for the hyuga even though it's his destiny he still chose it
naruto was destined to be hokage when he became kakashi's student and sasuke became his rival
even though neji's dad's destiny was to die for the main branch he chose it
naruto's destiny is to be hokage but he still chose it
neji was the one going against hinata and wanted to kill her but after that fight with naruto he stopped being like that and died protecting the main branch like his destiny
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even though neji's dad's destiny was to die for the main branch he chose it
naruto's destiny is to be hokage but he still chose it
neji was the one going against hinata and wanted to kill her but after that fight with naruto he stopped being like that and died protecting the main branch like his destiny
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that guy over there
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people are talking about naruto being a child of prophecy but forget there were two possibilities to that,he could have decided to kill everybody but he didn't
both naruto and sasuke didn't wake up one day to find sage mode or the magyeko sharingan on the table with a letter from santa saying merry xmas,they didnt wake up one day with ashura and indra powers knocking at the door,they worked thier a$$e$ of that $hit,guy,lee and sakura are good examples of people who wernt really destined for anything but are making waves in the series,like it or not sakura did very well for herself and if you going to say she was trained by a sannin then think about shizune who was also trained by tsunade but is nowhere near sakura's level,being the child of a kage doesnt guarantee greatness.
NOT ALL THE UCHIHA WERE GREAT AND NOT ALL THE UZUMAKI WERE GREAT,at least not as great as naruto and sasuke
both naruto and sasuke didn't wake up one day to find sage mode or the magyeko sharingan on the table with a letter from santa saying merry xmas,they didnt wake up one day with ashura and indra powers knocking at the door,they worked thier a$$e$ of that $hit,guy,lee and sakura are good examples of people who wernt really destined for anything but are making waves in the series,like it or not sakura did very well for herself and if you going to say she was trained by a sannin then think about shizune who was also trained by tsunade but is nowhere near sakura's level,being the child of a kage doesnt guarantee greatness.
NOT ALL THE UCHIHA WERE GREAT AND NOT ALL THE UZUMAKI WERE GREAT,at least not as great as naruto and sasuke
I hope you know KOL is not the only person to have these thoughts about the series. He's just able to voice them and his voice is more widely known. Opinions and theories about the Naruto series existed before Anime Youtubers.
Stormblast
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You and anybody who agrees with you are absolute rubes lacking the most basic skills of literature analysis and comprehension. Allow me to put this piece of shit thread to bed.
1.) AT NO POINT IN TIME was Naruto's theme or mantra about HARD WORK. The "hard work surpassing genius" belongs solely to Maito Gai/Lee/Dai and to them alone. Naruto Uzumaki's theme, as well as the central ideal of this manga, is UNITY and COOPERATION. Now, that's not to say Naruto is not a hard-worker. He actually is, he is easily the hardest worker in this series besides the aforementioned 3. But that flag was never his to carry, that is just something some Western fans assumed. The Prophecy and reincarnation business of Naruto and Sasuke is perfectly in line with the characterization put in motion to date and the overall relevancy of the ultimate goal of this manga: to find peace. It adds DIMENSION to the dilemma left to those 2; put it in a different scope. More specifically, these ideals are TERRIBLY misunderstood by the Western audience, which this series is not made for, and it clearly shows in people like yourself when you try to misconstrue the context and undermine the merit it brings to not only Naruto and Sasuke, but to the greater good and representation of history throughout all time.
2.) Naruto was not destined for greatness. Are you of the belief that just because Ashura's chakra is transmigrated to Naruto that makes him automatically meant for greatness? That is not only stupid, but been proven wrong in manga canon. Look at Hashirama Senju. I love the guy, but he's an imperfect transmigrant. As we see, he deviated from the notion of "unity no matter what" and has shown first hand that freedom of choice is alive and well. By killing Madara, he effectively killed everything he stood for and that alone shows the path is able to strayed from. Just as Naruto CHOSE to accept what was before him when Pain attacked. He CHOSE to take his master's mantle and find peace. He CHOSE to allow Nagato and Obito the chance at redemption they deserve as misguided entities in a twisted world. He CHOSE to oppose Madara and the Infinite Tsukuyomi. If Naruto wanted, he could have very well joined the opposition and shit on the entire Alliance and everything he once stood for. And as we saw, he almost did at Neji's death which thereby proves AGAIN this misconception of yours is still that; a misconception
3.) You do not understand Neji's plight or his choice. Neji believed it was his destiny to die protecting a main household member, whether he liked it or not. He believed he was created for that sole purpose and it was impossible to break the mold until Naruto showed him that a failure can stand tall if he truly believes he can and upon hearing of his father's valiance. "But Neji did die protecting a main house member!" EXACTLY? But do you know why?
Because he WANTED to. He CHOSE to. He DECIDED that was his path. He didn't let destiny dictate how he life would be spent or that he would die to protect Hinata, a superior over him. He died to protect Hinata, a family member he cared about greatly, and Naruto, a friend he knew will change the world. What some of you Neji-mongoloids don't grasp is this was all CHOICE and thereby, that NEGATES destiny altogether. Naruto could have thrown up his hands at any point in time and said "**** it", just as he almost did, but he chooses NOT TO. Why? Because he is blasting down the path he believes in. Not to mention the gifts he recieved from his parents are negligible as is MANGA CANON itself.
He EARNED everything he's received; he was born with a curse and made it into a blessing, he trained til his body couln't take it anymore for Rasenshuriken and Sage Mode, he battled a demon and removed his hate to grant him Kurama's power, he gave the Bijuu hope and wrecked them in that dust-up to prove his love, attaining all of their powers. The ONLY power you could argue was a handout was his Six Path's Senjutsu, and even that is mostly earned as his way of life and disposition is reminiscent of Ashura's, ergo, the correct way which is needed to lead the world.
TL;DR - Just ****ing read it. It's people like you that shit on Neji's character and the story's conceptualized meaning and message and it's make me sick to my stomach to see you plebs perpetuate this bullshit.
1.) AT NO POINT IN TIME was Naruto's theme or mantra about HARD WORK. The "hard work surpassing genius" belongs solely to Maito Gai/Lee/Dai and to them alone. Naruto Uzumaki's theme, as well as the central ideal of this manga, is UNITY and COOPERATION. Now, that's not to say Naruto is not a hard-worker. He actually is, he is easily the hardest worker in this series besides the aforementioned 3. But that flag was never his to carry, that is just something some Western fans assumed. The Prophecy and reincarnation business of Naruto and Sasuke is perfectly in line with the characterization put in motion to date and the overall relevancy of the ultimate goal of this manga: to find peace. It adds DIMENSION to the dilemma left to those 2; put it in a different scope. More specifically, these ideals are TERRIBLY misunderstood by the Western audience, which this series is not made for, and it clearly shows in people like yourself when you try to misconstrue the context and undermine the merit it brings to not only Naruto and Sasuke, but to the greater good and representation of history throughout all time.
2.) Naruto was not destined for greatness. Are you of the belief that just because Ashura's chakra is transmigrated to Naruto that makes him automatically meant for greatness? That is not only stupid, but been proven wrong in manga canon. Look at Hashirama Senju. I love the guy, but he's an imperfect transmigrant. As we see, he deviated from the notion of "unity no matter what" and has shown first hand that freedom of choice is alive and well. By killing Madara, he effectively killed everything he stood for and that alone shows the path is able to strayed from. Just as Naruto CHOSE to accept what was before him when Pain attacked. He CHOSE to take his master's mantle and find peace. He CHOSE to allow Nagato and Obito the chance at redemption they deserve as misguided entities in a twisted world. He CHOSE to oppose Madara and the Infinite Tsukuyomi. If Naruto wanted, he could have very well joined the opposition and shit on the entire Alliance and everything he once stood for. And as we saw, he almost did at Neji's death which thereby proves AGAIN this misconception of yours is still that; a misconception
3.) You do not understand Neji's plight or his choice. Neji believed it was his destiny to die protecting a main household member, whether he liked it or not. He believed he was created for that sole purpose and it was impossible to break the mold until Naruto showed him that a failure can stand tall if he truly believes he can and upon hearing of his father's valiance. "But Neji did die protecting a main house member!" EXACTLY? But do you know why?
Because he WANTED to. He CHOSE to. He DECIDED that was his path. He didn't let destiny dictate how he life would be spent or that he would die to protect Hinata, a superior over him. He died to protect Hinata, a family member he cared about greatly, and Naruto, a friend he knew will change the world. What some of you Neji-mongoloids don't grasp is this was all CHOICE and thereby, that NEGATES destiny altogether. Naruto could have thrown up his hands at any point in time and said "**** it", just as he almost did, but he chooses NOT TO. Why? Because he is blasting down the path he believes in. Not to mention the gifts he recieved from his parents are negligible as is MANGA CANON itself.
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TL;DR - Just ****ing read it. It's people like you that shit on Neji's character and the story's conceptualized meaning and message and it's make me sick to my stomach to see you plebs perpetuate this bullshit.
Awkward Linguist
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Not really, the reincarnations are supposed to kill one another, Naruto and Sasuke are meant to kill one of each other.
But instead they are working together, Naruto is the child of prophecy, but Sasuke was supposed to be like Madara and Indra, and he is supposed to be Naruto's mortal enemy, but they are breaking that cycle.
So its more like they are choosing their destiny.
But instead they are working together, Naruto is the child of prophecy, but Sasuke was supposed to be like Madara and Indra, and he is supposed to be Naruto's mortal enemy, but they are breaking that cycle.
So its more like they are choosing their destiny.
