Neji vs Tsunade

Owarij · May 20, 2012

I See tsunade winning this, Mid difficulty at MOST....

When it comes down to Taijutsu, she's simply better than him, this is according to pure databook stats of course.. We have tsunade who has trained mostly medical ninjutsu and taijutsu her entire life as well as honing her skills to never get hit in a battle... We saw sakura display some of this swiftness in her fight against sasori, and tsunade would be much better than her in it.

Tsunade's summoning Katsuyu will be another major part in this fight... Neji's physical attacks will do her nothing as she can just split into other parts and reform as she wishes... She possesses the ability to Spit acid capable of melting rock, with no handseals or forewarning at all... Neji should be able to heavenly spin this away with no problem, but it would mostly come in handy if tsunade is ever caught in a pinch and ends up in Neji's radius for 64 palm... A quick acid shot would cause him to have to defend, giving tsunade ample time to get out of that situation if it ever occurred... Though very unlikely... Another counter for his palms would be that once tsunade realizes neji is lining up for the jutsu and that she's in his range, she can attack the ground creating a shockwave and putting neji offbalance... I'd much rather the katsuyu back up situation in any case

Most neji's other techniques won't do tsunade anything really... Not with her creation rebirth up....Tsunade is more than capable of Outlasting neji in a fight ....This is because of her senju and uzumaki blood running through her veins.... she possesses much more chakra than the average individual...

Now we have Neji, Who without doubt is an expert fighter... A genius in his own right, and a prodigy at the gentle fist ...However none of the aforementioned things is really going to help him in this fight... The last we saw it, or I saw it, Heavenly spin was attacked by 1 tail naruto's punch and it caused it to explode recoiling and damaging both neji and naruto.... Now if 1 tail naruto's punch was enough force to blow up his spin, then I can more than guarantee that Tsunade's enhanced chakra punch, which blew away Madara's incomplete susanno... Would not only blow neji's spin up, but could possibly kill him also... Yes tsunade will aslo receive recoil damage from doing this, but we all know her creation rebirth gives her leeway to do things like that...

Next we have Tsunade's body pathway disturbance that she can pull off if she ever even layers a finger on neji... Something like that is VERY likely to happen if both ninjas end up in a taijutsu brawl .....This jutsu messes with Neji's nerves and his entire body and will change all his body movements as he knows it.. Moving his left hand may move his head... Moving his head may move his left foot... Etc... Getting that jutsu put on you, in the middle of a taijutsu fight, IS death for most shinobi... Especially when their opponent is Tsunade.. Someone , who if she lands a hit , would K0 most ninja instantly...

I have no doubt that eventually, given a bit of time , That Neji would be able to figure out the new body pattern movements.. But not in anyway as fast as Kabuto did... He could only do that because of his sheer genius in the medical ninjutsu category, so he escaped death very luckily...

As i said, in the end , Tsunade and katsuyu win this , Mid difficulty

Commander Axe · May 20, 2012

Naruto9001 said:
Why dont we try to calculate this, Neji was fighting for atleast 10 hours still with a team but he was using chakra to fend off the zetsu's i know 10 hours isn't a fact it's one of my opinions but looking at the sky it was either morning or early afternoon when the war started it was late at night. Then he was using his byakugan the rest of the night scouting which also burns up a little bit of chakra.

You've been talking about what i've been saying isn't facts but you made your opinion that spamming it wouldn't change anything it sounds like your contradicting your self there.

Look im doing my best not to sound ignorant now.

just give up, every singe person voted for tsunade. Its over neji dies now just go to bed...

Dark Jewel · May 20, 2012

tsunade will win.

oooog · May 20, 2012

Naruto9001 said:
Why dont we try to calculate this, Neji was fighting for atleast 10 hours still with a team but he was using chakra to fend off the zetsu's i know 10 hours isn't a fact it's one of my opinions but looking at the sky it was either morning or early afternoon when the war started it was late at night. Then he was using his byakugan the rest of the night scouting which also burns up a little bit of chakra.

You've been talking about what i've been saying isn't facts but you made your opinion that spamming it wouldn't change anything it sounds like your contradicting your self there.

Look im doing my best not to sound ignorant now.

Its not opinion. How would getting stabbed twice (or three times or a million for that matter) make you anymore dead than getting stabbed once where he stabbed her? She should have been dead. But because she's clearly better than you give her credit for, she's still alive.

the more you type the more ignorant you seem

Naruto9001 · May 20, 2012

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Never said Creation rebirth gives her more chakra, I'm just commenting on her level of reserves being superior to Neji's meaning she can outlast him.

Why do you keep thinking Tsunade is attacking Neji head on from the get go? She's not going to do that, she's not going to go head on against Neji, she's going be defensive, use diversions to tire him out. As a medical kunoichi until she activates her creation rebirth, unless it's a mofo she can deal with without it, she's probably not going to fight anybody head on as the aggressor.

Neji depends on his stances for his attacks (most martial arts) but you'll notice that and when I say Rotation requires him to spin rapidly...it's in the name for Christ sake lol. With Rotation he's spinning and emitting chakra as he does so. If he begins to spin, and at that precise moment Tsunade decides to strike the ground, Neji will not be able to stop fast enough in order for him to jump. That's what I'm saying.

Tsunade learned the summoning jutsu, she can use that technique but alright I'll let you have that. Tsunade can only use jutsu in her arsonal....Summoning technique is in her arsonal of techniques. She summons Katsuya and Katsuya is free to do what she pleases Fair enought. All Tsunade did was summon her, Katsuya doesn't have to listen to her or anything.

Also if Katsuya decides to split up by herself that's on her, Tsunade isn't doing a thing, and if Katsuya decides to place herself on Tsunade and Tsunade uses Katsuya as a medium for her medical jutsu, Katsuya is just a catalyst, she's not using any techniques that's all Tsunade right there So yeah. Once Katsuya is summoned through a skill that Tsunade knows how to do (which you're allowing her to use the skills she knows) Katsuya can do whatever she pleases.

You keep repeating yourself with the explinations and I have to keep repeating myself with the rebutals. Try to come up with something new to give more of a variety because everything you've said has been countered so to speak.

Neji can't spam his jutsu he'll tire himself out, from what we've seen with Tsunade and her techniques, she can hold creation rebirth for a fair amount of time enough not to kill herself in one battle with one jounin. Tsunade's style of fightning will leave her defensive and capable of avoiding attacks, maintaining distance, and utilizing her superior intelligence to outwit Neji force him to tire himself out. If Neji gets close, Tsunade having trained in taijutsu for 50 years of her love, 10x the number of years Neji has she can avoid his attacks as well, Tsunade knows how the body works better then Neji does, she has better resources to work with in terms of knowing how to shut down a body even if Neji is a Hyuuga his abilities of the body involve his taijiutsu training and his Byakugan which coddles because without it he knows not where the chakra points are in the body to cause Tsunade harm. Tsunade can summon Katsuya if she wants to becaue that's part of her skill set and since Katsuya is loyal to Tsunade, obviously she'll assist her. Tsunade's creation rebirth, will disallow any harm to come to her that is fatal so if she's close enough to be hit, it's a matter of either striking before Neji/Striking while he's striking/or use the time, take the blow and survive it and use that build up to either (1) confuse his motor movements (2) send his head 10meters from his body.

Sorry I had the late reply, I was watching Blood Prison....pretty dissapointing tbh.

She was attacking Kabuto and Orochimaru head on and she went and fought Madara head on too.

Why would he spin when Tsunade's about to attack the ground? Dosen't make much sense.

I've countered what you've said too your acting like your bring new stuff to the table when your saying the same thing.

But you still haven't said how Neji will let his nerves system get hit with her scapels but im not going to say Tsunade cant get a lucky one in i guess it could go by who gets the strike.

I might not have been able to counter everything you said it was kind of hard to read that last paragraph with the wall of text you gave.

6pathofpain · May 20, 2012

Neji's got this one, Tsuande's power wont help her. Remember what kabuto did to her? Neji's to fast an to skilled. Neji cant cut off her chakra so she cant heal her self. An even if she still can, it requires chakra, she cant do it for ever. Their fight would be similar to naruto vs neji in the first series(without the 9 tails chakra).

Naruto9001 · May 20, 2012

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Naruto9001 Let me ask you this. Being a medical ninja do you think Tsunade is aware of where critical points in the body are?
In fact we're well are that she is aware of pressure points and she has done a pressure point attack once before.

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In fact she picked the perfect pressure point which made Naruto involuntarily release his kunai.
In addition Tsunade isn't a slouch in speed. Before neji attacks he sets up to attack in general.

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When Tsunade sees that all she would need to do is quicky interupt the tech with say a stomp. If a finger can do this:

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I imagine a stump would be much more devastating.
Keeping in mind that she only used one finger and was fast enough to disarm Naruto and hit him twice with the same finger before he could react I imagine with Neji's style and her being able using every part of her body as a weapon she could defend herself fairly well.
Kabuto's whole attack system depended on keeping her in mid-air so he could attack where as Neji seems to prefer his opponents on the ground. Being able to attack Tsunade in the same way as Kabuto did is unlikely. He was pretty screwed until he managed to catch her in mid air. And after that he was screwed again until her hemophobia kicked in.
So what we know about Tsunade's fighting style:

She utilizes involuntary reflexes:

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She hits pressure points:

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She uses shockwaves:

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She is capable of offensive Medical Ninjutsu:

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She would have no way to compare her and Kabuto's fighting style unless she had a similar style with her chakra scalpels
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She is very aware of her surroundings:

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She has extreme strength:

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She's intelligent in battle:

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Apparently she messed up his nervous system which allowed her to attack, and to heal herself.

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She used the tools of her surrounding to defeat Manda with one move. She just put Orochimaru in check.

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She just put Orochimaru in Check Mate by ensuring he had no choice but to take the full brunt of her punch. She decided to end the battle with one punch.

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She figured out exactly where Kabuto was going to attack, dodged, and counter attacked.

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She was well aware of the potential damage done by a complete rasengan and decided not to tank the jutsu but to diffuse the power before it even reached her.

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She must have calculated the force necesssary to send Naruto away and making him feel pain in conjunction to how much force to put into throwing the kunai in order to make sure she didn't kill him but scare him and make realize she could've killed him. And the timing necessary for the dramatics.

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She healed the other kages in order to heighten their chances for sucess This was a great a move. Just from the rules of medical ninja you can tell she understands warfare and battle strategy.

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I know you may try to use this as a counter-argument

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But all of the kage were tricked, WE don't even know when he switched himself with a clone, he said he was the only person able to see through the wood clone, and Tsunade had enough sense to prepare Byakougou in advance in case she should be surprised by something. This was also intelligent

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As you can see it actually pierced Susanoo

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but she used the attack as a distraction

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And as Tsunade points out they did force Madara into a position where the wood clone he used was necessary.

Huge Chakra Reserves: I think this point really expresses itself. Being a Senju and being gifted with the Senju body of the Sage and the Uzumaki longevity she has been granted a lot of chakra which is how she healed the entire village during Pein's attack twice or how she could heal from the Heavenly transfer technique, heal 3 kages back to 100% attack Madara and regenerate her stomach, organs and spine twice(Yasaka Magatama and Susanoo Sword) when Kabuto couldn't heal from the damage of a rasengan

She has Precise Chakra Control: Once again fairly self explanatory and I think her yin seal proves it. In addition to her strength. And the fact that she is heralded as the greatest Medical Ninja in the world and medical ninjutsu is known to require precise chakra control, or how she is able to use more than one technique at once (Transformation+Byakougou+Chakra Enhanced Strength)

She can use Body Pathway Derangement: This technique would disable nearly anyone who does not have a lightening cloak. Kabuto was a prodigy and it took him some time to figure out how to move. Should she use this technique she could smash her opponent while they were unable to move or you know slit their throat.

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She attacks with more than just her fist and feet:

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She is capable of blitzing:

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She can knock people out without using her strength:

If Tsunade had used her strength Shizune would have flown backwards.
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She is not slow:

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Here she protects Naruto three times with great speed as no one saw her get into position to protect him they only saw her getting hit (these were her out of combat and still terrorized by blood)

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Notice where she starts and Jiraiya only gets to form one hand seal before the blade is there

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She is incredibly durable:Sword of Kusanagi

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Susanoo Sword

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Three Yasaka Magatamas

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Cut abdomen and Bicep Muscles

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Cut Respiratory Muscles

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Shinra Tensei FP

Here she is healing the village and the seal in unbroken.

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Here she is talking to Pein after she's healed the village. The seal is still unbroken (using multiple pictures to show its not a mistake like when Kishi accidently gave raikage back his arm)

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(it looks as though Tsunade was about to fight him based on what the Anbu said)

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This is Tsunade chasing after Pein to stop him, making her closer to the initial point of contact for Shinra Tensei FP - seal unbroken

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This is Tsunade after she's realized he's got more up his sleeves than what has already been used the seal is still unbroken (using this picture to show that Tsunade isn't running away from the epicenter of Shinra Tensei in the picture above)

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This is Tsunade after Shinra Tensei hits -no seal

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What's even more impressive is that she didn't use Creation Rebirth on herself as she's bleeding.

Tsunade used Katsuya to protect the other villagers but there is not Katsuyu with her.

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Bearing in mind Tsunade has already expended a lot of chakra to heal the villagers, then tanking a full Shinra Tensei up close in personal is quite a feat.

And she had the stamina to climb from under the collaspbed building and beat the Anbu to the scene

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before ... being blitzed.

So My point being after healing the village, and summoning Katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra to summon large creatures)

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she tanked Shinra Tensei and rehealed the village.

That's without Katsuyu. So no I don't see Neji beating her.

Wow maybe if Neji got the proper character development and didn't get trolled i could put up a better argument to this.

oooog · May 20, 2012

6pathofpain said:
Neji's got this one, Tsuande's power wont help her. Remember what kabuto did to her? Neji's to fast an to skilled. Neji cant cut off her chakra so she cant heal her self. An even if she still can, it requires chakra, she cant do it for ever. Their fight would be similar to naruto vs neji in the first series(without the 9 tails chakra).

haha similar to the fight neji lost?

6pathofpain · May 20, 2012

Tazzilla88 said:
Naruto9001 Let me ask you this. Being a medical ninja do you think Tsunade is aware of where critical points in the body are?
In fact we're well are that she is aware of pressure points and she has done a pressure point attack once before.

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In fact she picked the perfect pressure point which made Naruto involuntarily release his kunai.
In addition Tsunade isn't a slouch in speed. Before neji attacks he sets up to attack in general.

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When Tsunade sees that all she would need to do is quicky interupt the tech with say a stomp. If a finger can do this:

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I imagine a stump would be much more devastating.
Keeping in mind that she only used one finger and was fast enough to disarm Naruto and hit him twice with the same finger before he could react I imagine with Neji's style and her being able using every part of her body as a weapon she could defend herself fairly well.
Kabuto's whole attack system depended on keeping her in mid-air so he could attack where as Neji seems to prefer his opponents on the ground. Being able to attack Tsunade in the same way as Kabuto did is unlikely. He was pretty screwed until he managed to catch her in mid air. And after that he was screwed again until her hemophobia kicked in.
So what we know about Tsunade's fighting style:

She utilizes involuntary reflexes:

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She hits pressure points:

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She uses shockwaves:

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She is capable of offensive Medical Ninjutsu:

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She would have no way to compare her and Kabuto's fighting style unless she had a similar style with her chakra scalpels
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She is very aware of her surroundings:

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She has extreme strength:

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She's intelligent in battle:

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Apparently she messed up his nervous system which allowed her to attack, and to heal herself.

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She used the tools of her surrounding to defeat Manda with one move. She just put Orochimaru in check.

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She just put Orochimaru in Check Mate by ensuring he had no choice but to take the full brunt of her punch. She decided to end the battle with one punch.

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She figured out exactly where Kabuto was going to attack, dodged, and counter attacked.

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She was well aware of the potential damage done by a complete rasengan and decided not to tank the jutsu but to diffuse the power before it even reached her.

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She must have calculated the force necesssary to send Naruto away and making him feel pain in conjunction to how much force to put into throwing the kunai in order to make sure she didn't kill him but scare him and make realize she could've killed him. And the timing necessary for the dramatics.

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She healed the other kages in order to heighten their chances for sucess This was a great a move. Just from the rules of medical ninja you can tell she understands warfare and battle strategy.

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I know you may try to use this as a counter-argument

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But all of the kage were tricked, WE don't even know when he switched himself with a clone, he said he was the only person able to see through the wood clone, and Tsunade had enough sense to prepare Byakougou in advance in case she should be surprised by something. This was also intelligent

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As you can see it actually pierced Susanoo

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but she used the attack as a distraction

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And as Tsunade points out they did force Madara into a position where the wood clone he used was necessary.

Huge Chakra Reserves: I think this point really expresses itself. Being a Senju and being gifted with the Senju body of the Sage and the Uzumaki longevity she has been granted a lot of chakra which is how she healed the entire village during Pein's attack twice or how she could heal from the Heavenly transfer technique, heal 3 kages back to 100% attack Madara and regenerate her stomach, organs and spine twice(Yasaka Magatama and Susanoo Sword) when Kabuto couldn't heal from the damage of a rasengan

She has Precise Chakra Control: Once again fairly self explanatory and I think her yin seal proves it. In addition to her strength. And the fact that she is heralded as the greatest Medical Ninja in the world and medical ninjutsu is known to require precise chakra control, or how she is able to use more than one technique at once (Transformation+Byakougou+Chakra Enhanced Strength)

She can use Body Pathway Derangement: This technique would disable nearly anyone who does not have a lightening cloak. Kabuto was a prodigy and it took him some time to figure out how to move. Should she use this technique she could smash her opponent while they were unable to move or you know slit their throat.

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She attacks with more than just her fist and feet:

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She is capable of blitzing:

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She can knock people out without using her strength:

If Tsunade had used her strength Shizune would have flown backwards.
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She is not slow:

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Here she protects Naruto three times with great speed as no one saw her get into position to protect him they only saw her getting hit (these were her out of combat and still terrorized by blood)

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Notice where she starts and Jiraiya only gets to form one hand seal before the blade is there

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She is incredibly durable:Sword of Kusanagi

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Susanoo Sword

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Three Yasaka Magatamas

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Cut abdomen and Bicep Muscles

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Cut Respiratory Muscles

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Shinra Tensei FP

Here she is healing the village and the seal in unbroken.

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Here she is talking to Pein after she's healed the village. The seal is still unbroken (using multiple pictures to show its not a mistake like when Kishi accidently gave raikage back his arm)

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(it looks as though Tsunade was about to fight him based on what the Anbu said)

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This is Tsunade chasing after Pein to stop him, making her closer to the initial point of contact for Shinra Tensei FP - seal unbroken

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This is Tsunade after she's realized he's got more up his sleeves than what has already been used the seal is still unbroken (using this picture to show that Tsunade isn't running away from the epicenter of Shinra Tensei in the picture above)

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This is Tsunade after Shinra Tensei hits -no seal

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What's even more impressive is that she didn't use Creation Rebirth on herself as she's bleeding.

Tsunade used Katsuya to protect the other villagers but there is not Katsuyu with her.

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Bearing in mind Tsunade has already expended a lot of chakra to heal the villagers, then tanking a full Shinra Tensei up close in personal is quite a feat.

And she had the stamina to climb from under the collaspbed building and beat the Anbu to the scene

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before ... being blitzed.

So My point being after healing the village, and summoning Katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra to summon large creatures)

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she tanked Shinra Tensei and rehealed the village.

That's without Katsuyu. So no I don't see Neji beating her.

She was barely able to beat kabuto in the first series. Neji is faster than her an with the byukgan he can predict her attacks(not like the sharingun, i explained it when he fought naruto) an with air palms he can attack from a distance. All sshe can do is hand to hand an there not anyone in naruto that i got beating neji in taijutsu. Your seriously underestimating him...

Naruto9001 · May 20, 2012

oooog said:
Its not opinion. How would getting stabbed twice (or three times or a million for that matter) make you anymore dead than getting stabbed once where he stabbed her? She should have been dead. But because she's clearly better than you give her credit for, she's still alive.

the more you type the more ignorant you seem

It dosen't work like that each time she gets injured she has to put chakra into which shortens her life span each time so a million would kill her.

Im not being ignorant it's not like i made a retarted troll thread saying Ino vs Tsunade.

6pathofpain · May 20, 2012

oooog said:
haha similar to the fight neji lost?

Clever, but seeing how i said without the 9tails, an without the 9 tails naruto would of lost...what you saids invaild.

Commander Axe · May 20, 2012

6pathofpain said:
She was barely able to beat kabuto in the first series. Neji is faster than her an with the byukgan he can predict her attacks(not like the sharingun, i explained it when he fought naruto) an with air palms he can attack from a distance. All sshe can do is hand to hand an there not anyone in naruto that i got beating neji in taijutsu. Your seriously underestimating him...

Did you forget that tsunade had a phobia, she was paralyzed so that fight doesnt really count.

oooog · May 20, 2012

Naruto9001 said:
It dosen't work like that each time she gets injured she has to put chakra into which shortens her life span each time so a million would kill her.

Im not being ignorant it's not like i made a retarted troll thread saying Ino vs Tsunade.

dude, its you an obviously a friend or something trying to dig yourself out of a hole.

the troll parts of this thread came from you not backing anything you said up with precedence like I and others did. Instead you came up with troll logic like "he would jump".

Tsunade is just a way more well rounded fighter.

I give up though, and I commend you, your ignorance is something to behold.

oooog · May 20, 2012

6pathofpain said:
Clever, but seeing how i said without the 9tails, an without the 9 tails naruto would of lost...what you saids invaild.

you you think that the silver of the nine tails chakra, not enough to even pull a hint of a cloak is > than Tsunade's chakra control and levels?

Hmmm... If you believe that.... I feel sorry for your children

6pathofpain · May 20, 2012

NinjaKid114 said:
Did you forget that tsunade had a phobia, she was paralyzed so that fight doesnt really count.

Tsunade will not defeat neji in taijutsu, im not sure if anyone will beat neji in taijutsu except like guy or something. This will be a pure taijutsu fight an she's not fast enough to beat neji. Not to mention neji can kill her in one shot to the chest an force her to continuously use that healing jutsu an tirer herself out. If you honestly think that she'll beat neji in taijutsu then your just seriously underrating neji :sy:

fastrthnwind · May 20, 2012

Tsunade's greatest advantage is her years of experience and her summoning katsuya. This is what would actually give her the victory in this. Her healing would be useless against Neji's type of attacks as the gentle fist attacks the chakra network itself, something that won't just heal without outside aide.

6pathofpain · May 20, 2012

oooog said:
you you think that the silver of the nine tails chakra, not enough to even pull a hint of a cloak is > than Tsunade's chakra control and levels?

Hmmm... If you believe that.... I feel sorry for your children

No, i think that since tsunade doesnt have a completely different source of chakra inside of her if her points get cut off she's done.

If you cant understand that, you should smash your head against a brick wall until you stop breathing an do your family a favor cause they dont love you.

Commander Axe · May 20, 2012

6pathofpain said:
Tsunade will not defeat neji in taijutsu, im not sure if anyone will beat neji in taijutsu except like guy or something. This will be a pure taijutsu fight an she's not fast enough to beat neji. Not to mention neji can kill her in one shot to the chest an force her to continuously use that healing jutsu an tirer herself out. If you honestly think that she'll beat neji in taijutsu then your just seriously underrating neji :sy:

dude look in the databook, his taijutsu is 4.5 and hers is 5.

Tazzilla88 · May 20, 2012

6pathofpain said:
She was barely able to beat kabuto in the first series. Neji is faster than her an with the byukgan he can predict her attacks(not like the sharingun, i explained it when he fought naruto) an with air palms he can attack from a distance. All sshe can do is hand to hand an there not anyone in naruto that i got beating neji in taijutsu. Your seriously underestimating him...

Your argument fails for two reasons.
1. He got two attacks off.
2.His strategy consisted of running away for the majority of the fight.
3. He took a soldier pill to help him
4. According to the manga she hadn't been in battle for years.

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Which is not the case now.
5.He's not going to predict her attack as her natural strength is great enough to lift Gamabunta's sword. So she doesn't need chakra to kill him. So he won't read her chakra if she doesn't use it.
6.With boulders she can attack with a distance and given the fact that she is far more intelligent than him how often do you think she will fall for that? And did you forget about this:

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This would render Vacuum Palm Moot
7. And According to the Databook written by Kishi which is more important than your opinion Tsunade is better than Neji at Taijutsu

All sshe can do is hand to hand an there not anyone in naruto that i got beating neji in taijutsu.

Your underestimating Tsunade. As I've already proved she's more talented than you give her credit for

Naruto9001 · May 20, 2012

oooog said:
dude, its you an obviously a friend or something trying to dig yourself out of a hole.

the troll parts of this thread came from you not backing anything you said up with precedence like I and others did. Instead you came up with troll logic like "he would jump".

Tsunade is just a way more well rounded fighter.

I give up though, and I commend you, your ignorance is something to behold.

That's not troll logic and that's not the only thing i said.

Good because it's obvious all your here to do is flame.

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