Neji, Naruto & Fate

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Sigh....Neji you were a beast and will be missed. But, I do want to get this off my chest.

Neji's story was supose to be about freedom and that people decide their own fates. But, the saddest thing about Neji's death wasn't that he actually died, but that he died believing naruto was right about destiny. When in fact Neji was right all along. Both him and his father died for the main branch. They chose their own deaths but it still coincided with their destinies as branch members. He was also right about position of kage. Based on what we've seen in part 2 it is entirely based on lineage with A and Oonoki being groomed for it as kids. "But Neji freely threw himself in between the wooden spikes & Naruto +Hinata". Yeah, and "destiny" already decided that Neji was going to do that, which in turn fulfilled his destiny decided at his birth to protect and serve the main branch. Neji was basically reduced to Hinata's protector in shippuden and it hurts to realize that. "But naruto was right, he overcame trials and tribulations". No, naruto was destined for greatness that moment he was EVER connected to Minato & Kushina. The fact that Kushina's bloodline grants naruto special traits that give him natural advantage such as super stamina over many ninja, is a huge problem. "But just because you are connected to someone famous/strong doesnt mean you will be". No, the VERY fact that he is EVEN connected to Minato at all makes his theme of Destiny irrelevant.

Imagine this:

*Naruto struggles. People call him a loser. Note that the majority of the village does not know he is connected to Minato*

*Naruto gains strength over time. Defeats some of the strongest ninjas that even people like kakashi couldn't. Imagine the villagers finding out that he is Minato's son. "OH, of course naruto would have overcome his struggles, he is Minato's SON afterall". Even if naruto struggled, he was going to overcome it anyway because Destiny said he was. That wasn't someone he chose. Because the prophecy said a child was going to save the world, he was going to get strong over time. The struggles he had was just to spice things up and make his riselook good, but I think we are smarter than that. In conclusion, I feel sad that Neji died in total belief in naruto's ideals when naruto's life itself doesn't follow his ideals. Yeah, naruto had no control of that, but don't try and continue pushing that moral/value when you find out you are chosen.

What do you guys feel about this whole situation caused by Kishi's inconsistency in his themes?
 

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Welcome to the base! :)

OT We cant do anything about Kishi`s story. Let`s just flow with it. <3
 

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Welcome to the base! :)

OT We cant do anything about Kishi`s story. Let`s just flow with it. <3

Thanks, and I try but this one is just bad writing. Sometimes I feel like he just wiped his ass with the fans & shippuden feels like a reboot of the naruto series, not a sequel/part 2. But hey, I still enjoy it.
 
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I don't think he died because of fate. He took the bullet by his own will, he was free to choose that destiny. The fact that he died protecting Hinata, like his father died protecting his brother, doesn't mean he was still bound by some destiny.
 

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I just disliked it was so quick and rushed, no big situation before, no serious dialogue. It came out of nowhere and would have been avoidable. No one was in serious danger, usually it's just substitution jutsu or shadow clones that block every attack.
 

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I don't think he died because of fate. He took the bullet by his own will, he was free to choose that destiny. The fact that he died protecting Hinata, like his father died protecting his brother, doesn't mean he was still bound by some destiny.

But that "Choice" ended up fulfilling the same destiny that he was forced upon at birth. You cannot deny that being either a HUGE coincidence or Kishi does not care anymore. He was just doing damage control and I think people need to stop making excuses for him and see that maybe that idea was scraped by kishi. The fact is his destiny was to protect the main branch even if it costs him his life, and guess what? It costs him his life, so what does that say about destiny which was already predicted/determined? It was right after all, he was bound till his last breathe.
 

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I just disliked it was so quick and rushed, no big situation before, no serious dialogue. It came out of nowhere and would have been avoidable. No one was in serious danger, usually it's just substitution jutsu or shadow clones that block every attack.

LOL, what happened to the good ole substitution jutsu !!
 

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Neji did not die for the main branch family he died because of he wanted to protect naruto and hinata not because of a damned fate. Kishimoto keep on writing
 

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fodder die all the time,neji is no diffrent
 

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i suppose it's the difference between choosing your own fate and being forced into something. there is a bit of an inconsistency true, but in the end, neji was an equal to the main branch members, not a servant. but yeah naruto was even more destined than neji lol. i hope at least that naruto makes a choice so that the sage's prophecy is at least partly untrue. we didn't hear all of it, so it's totally possible. what naruto determined to do could triumph over the prophecy
 

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I just disliked it was so quick and rushed, no big situation before, no serious dialogue. It came out of nowhere and would have been avoidable. No one was in serious danger, usually it's just substitution jutsu or shadow clones that block every attack.

Correck obvious proof Kishi dislikes Hyuuga and have always made them inferior despite he kept writing in the manga that they are great look Neji he diedike a fodder.
 
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