Negging Prime Hiruzen in one thread

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

If "Prime Hiruzen" was real, and was the strongest Shinobi. Then why did everyone in his Squad state that Prime Hiruzen couldn't take the Kumogakure Hunter Nin, even if they all(Including Tobirama) teamed up?

If "Prime Hiruzen" was so strong why didn't he kill all 20 of the Kumogakure Hunter Nin like Obito did when he was a kid?

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Also Danzo stated to Tobirama that "There is no one greater than you in the Village"

So Hiruzen wasn't the strongest of his time, Tobirama Senju was.

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If Hiruzen was the strongest Hokage why didn't he Resist/break the Edo Tensei like Hashirama and Tobirama did?

And Hiruzen not being at full power isn't an excuse because they were all at 70% of their maximum power.

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Where as Hiruzen was Fodderized by Oro for the second time.

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[Jokule67]

Okay that last part made you sound desperate concerning Oro foddering him. Which he never did.


Ninja were stronger back then than they are now mostly.

In fact, just for the simple fact that Tobirama is there, shows how strong they were. Considering it states that the 4 of them cannot beat the 20 elite bounty ninja.

They were strong and since Tobirama chose Hiruzen without any hesitation, he was strong too. Not to mention Hiruzen was a teenager and didnt even have all his extensive knowledge yet. He only got stronger from then on.

So no you didnt solo Hiruzen at all.

 

[SenseiSama]

Hirzuen was the most skill full but not the strongest, his ability with ninjutsu surpassed Tobirama's. Furthermore he wasn't in his prime in that scan you posted, he was still a young adult.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Okay that last part made you sound desperate concerning Oro foddering him. Which he never did.


Ninja were stronger back then than they are now mostly.

In fact, just for the simple fact that Tobirama is there, shows how strong they were. Considering it states that the 4 of them cannot beat the 20 elite bounty ninja.

They were strong and since Tobirama chose Hiruzen without any hesitation, he was strong too. Not to mention Hiruzen was a teenager and didnt even have all his extensive knowledge yet. He only got stronger from then on.

So no you didnt solo Hiruzen at all.

I never said Hiruzen was weak. The idea of "Prime Hiruzen" is that Hiruzen is the Strongest Shinobi because 1 sentence in the Databooks states so. And he is referred to as the "God of Shinobi" once in the Anime.

I am simply proving that he isn't the strongest.

Hiruzen is strong indeed.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

1. The Hiruzen with Tobirama isn't Prime Hiruzen. It is very close to Prime Hiruzen but Prime Hiruzen is this.

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2. Those 20 bounty hunters were WAY stronger than the fodders Obito killed lol. or else Tobirama wouldn't have acted as a decoy or stated Hiruzen would become hokage and trusted Hiruzen/others with the village. The bounty hunters were serious business if we go by how Tobirama was taking the situation. Didn't those 20 people kill Tobirama.

3. Hiruzen wasn't resurrected at his prime. Tobirama/Hashirama were at their peak or at these around it when they died/got resurrected.
Hiruzen is strong but there of course several shinobi well above him even in the leaf.

 

[Jokule67]

I never said Hiruzen was weak. The idea of "Prime Hiruzen" is that Hiruzen is the Strongest Shinobi because 1 sentence in the Databooks states so. And he is referred to as the "God of Shinobi" once in the Anime.

I am simply proving that he isn't the strongest.

Hiruzen is strong indeed.

Oh I get you. I thought the NB Myth of him being the strongest was put to rest long time ago.

His title is being strongest kage of his era in him prime. He was stronger than the other nations kage.

 

[Exaar]

You made yourself look foolish.

First, Hiruzen gained his Fame/God title during his Hokage reign, He wasn't at his strongest when tobirama was hokage. Second, Edo Hiruzen =/= Prime Hiruzen.

You can't even understand the hype, No wonder you cannot even comprehend it

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

1. The Hiruzen with Tobirama isn't Prime Hiruzen. It is very close to Prime Hiruzen but Prime Hiruzen is this.

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2. Those 20 bounty hunters were WAY stronger than the fodders Obito killed lol. or else Tobirama wouldn't have acted as a decoy or stated Hiruzen would become hokage and trusted Hiruzen/others with the village. The bounty hunters were serious business if we go by how Tobirama was taking the situation. Didn't those 20 people kill Tobirama.

3. Hiruzen wasn't resurrected at his prime. Tobirama/Hashirama were at their peak or at these around it when they died/got resurrected.
Hiruzen is strong but there of course several shinobi well above him even in the leaf.

Their is no proof of which version was Hiruzen is strongest.

We only have 3 Versions to analyze. "Old Fart" Hiruzen that was negged by Orochimaru, Edo hiruzen, and Young Hiruzen who couldn't even take Kumogakure Nin even with help.

Also their is no proof that the old Hunter Nin are stronger than the ones Obito fought.

And not being resurrected in his prime really doesnt matter. Because no one was resurrected in their prime.

 

[Exaar]

Their is no proof of which version was Hiruzen strongest.

It's common sense.

We only have 2 Versions to analyze. "Old Fart" Hiruzen that was negged by Orochimaru, and Young Hiruzen who couldn't even take Kumogakure Nin even with help.

Yeah, the Kumogakure nin were so weak, Tobirama defeated them with zero problems.... Oh wait.....

Also their is no proof that the old Hunter Nin are stronger than the ones Obito fought.

Besides the fact that they defeated Tobirama? who was one of the strongest shinobi of his generation?

And not being resurrected in his prime really doesnt matter. Because no one was resurrected in their prime.

IF he isn't in his prime, Then you cannot use Edo hiruzen to try to disprove Prime hiruzen's strength. As Old/Edo hiruzen is far far weaker than his prime state.

 

[Jokule67]

Their is no proof of which version was Hiruzen is strongest.

We only have 3 Versions to analyze. "Old Fart" Hiruzen that was negged by Orochimaru, Edo hiruzen, and Young Hiruzen who couldn't even take Kumogakure Nin even with help.

Also their is no proof that the old Hunter Nin are stronger than the ones Obito fought.

And not being resurrected in his prime really doesnt matter. Because no one was resurrected in their prime.

You do have proof. Tobirama is proof to how strong they are. Pls stop denying this easy proof right in ur face.

Not only that, Kagami Uchiha, Danzo, and the next hokage Hiruzen all cant beat the 20 nin.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Yea itachithesoloking has no ideas of what he's talking bout...but yea itachi>3rd hokage.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

yeah it was all wanking hype kishi gives hokages. He just used a bunch of elements and already he was called a genius or God of shinobis

 

[Ansatsuken]

Exaar solo this thread with logic

 

[To Whatever]

Okay that last part made you sound desperate concerning Oro foddering him. Which he never did.


Ninja were stronger back then than they are now mostly.

In fact, just for the simple fact that Tobirama is there, shows how strong they were. Considering it states that the 4 of them cannot beat the 20 elite bounty ninja.

They were strong and since Tobirama chose Hiruzen without any hesitation, he was strong too. Not to mention Hiruzen was a teenager and didnt even have all his extensive knowledge yet. He only got stronger from then on.

So no you didnt solo Hiruzen at all.

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[Aznkidd]

Hiruzen was ress at his old age when he barely made 2 clones. He still negs buddha five elements low diff, he negs bijuu tree low diff, his tech were still badass.....

 

[Jokule67]

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Thanx a MILLION!

 

[LoZelda101]

Lmao that old geezer hype was retconned. Kishi would have to come up with some random ass powerup just to make up the lack of power that was clearly power creeped in mid-late shippuden like he did with the other edo hokages. Atleast with one piece the older cast still had some foreshadowing which turned out to be overpowered hax called haki.

 

[lndra]

Good job

 

[Sparks]

Long live HiruzenBase! :Sparks:

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[Dr Wolverine]

Prime Hiruzen is strongest shinobi of history!