[VS] NB Team Debate League Round 4: Senko vs Susano'o

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Match-up:

EMS Sasuke (Susano'o) vs SM Kabuto (Senko)
Location: Gaara vs Kimimaro
Conditons: Mugen Onsa (Sound Genjutsu) is restricted. Kabuto starts off in Sage Mode. Edo Tensei restricted.
Info: Full on both sides
Mindset: IC
Distance 30 meters

Team Susano'o will start first. You have 24 hours EXACTLY to post the first argument and the debate will last exactly 72 hours from the minute the first argument is posted. GO!
 

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Counters to White Rage and Muki Tensei

As Sasuke has seen White Rage before and knows what it does, burning it down via Amaterasu before it detonates would be a suitable counter, which can be done in the period so I'm sure Sasuke can react in time.

There is also the possibility that he could still keep Susanoo active during White Rage, as the technique would be weaker in an open field than it was in the cave, as the light and sound waves bounce off the cave walls, intensifying the effect. during White Rage but that might have been due to his Edo body. Sasuke could potentially use a Ribcage as the effect will be weaker outside.

Muki Tensei is useless here for two reasons.

1. Susanoo can tank it as
2. Extreme heat negates the

Its possible for Kabuto to attack the inside of Susanoo via Muki Tensei, but Sasuke has two ways to avoid this.

1. like he did vs. Juubi.
2. , which would also keep him airborne. Giving him a clear advantage as Kabuto really doesn't have any long range moves.

Counters to the Sound 5 techniques.

Most of the Sound 5's Techniques won't even hinder Sasuke while in Susanoo and can be countered with ease.

Doroku Gaeshi- Simply . Won't help against Susanoo offensively. More defensive like similar to

Kumosoukai-Already by Amaterasu, so that shouldn't be too difficult to handle as Sasuke has multiple Enton weapons. Restricting Susanoo with the webs won't work either as Enton would burn them off, and using them as a defense won't help as his Enton weapons would make short work of it.

Sawarabi no Mai-Can be countered via Susanoo's weapons

Mugen Onsa is restricted so that isn't included.

Manda II is also pretty much a nonfactor here as any Enton weapon would effortlessly dispatch him in a second. There's also the fact Sasuke and turn him against Kabuto.

Defeating Kabuto.

While Kabuto has displayed the ability to evade Susanoo arrows via the enhanced reflexes of Sage Mode. Though it doesn't mean he'll be able to contiguously evade attacks coming at him in a wide volume. is a tech that comes to mind as he can shoot multiple Magatama at the same time.

There is also the fact that Kabuto cannot evade Amaterasu as he doesn't have speed on par with V2 Ay. While he can shred from it using Oral Rebirth, Sasuke can strike him with Enton Blade while he is coming out of the

He can also multitask using the Enton Blade and Enton Magatama at once to try and land a hit on Kabuto, since it would be harder to evade a giant blade being swung at you while trying to evade multiple Enton projectiles being fired at him. This is possible as his Susanoo has 3 arms in its and forms. Though using Complete would be suitable for Riding on Aoda, and Enton Magatama is even usable in that form since it also wields an Enton orb as shown in the link that shows the Complete Susanoo.

Once he gets pierced by that blade, well, its safe to say that it's over and that Oral Rebirth won't save him as him and his insides would be completely melted.
 

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Counters to White Rage and Muki Tensei

As Sasuke has seen White Rage before and knows what it does, burning it down via Amaterasu before it detonates would be a suitable counter, which can be done in the period so I'm sure Sasuke can react in time.

There is also the possibility that he could still keep Susanoo active during White Rage, as the technique would be weaker in an open field than it was in the cave, as the light and sound waves bounce off the cave walls, intensifying the effect. during White Rage but that might have been due to his Edo body. Sasuke could potentially use a Ribcage as the effect will be weaker outside.

Muki Tensei is useless here for two reasons.

1. Susanoo can tank it as
2. Extreme heat negates the

Its possible for Kabuto to attack the inside of Susanoo via Muki Tensei, but Sasuke has two ways to avoid this.

1. like he did vs. Juubi.
2. , which would also keep him airborne. Giving him a clear advantage as Kabuto really doesn't have any long range moves.

Counters to the Sound 5 techniques.

Most of the Sound 5's Techniques won't even hinder Sasuke while in Susanoo and can be countered with ease.

Doroku Gaeshi- Simply . Won't help against Susanoo offensively. More defensive like similar to

Kumosoukai-Already by Amaterasu, so that shouldn't be too difficult to handle as Sasuke has multiple Enton weapons. Restricting Susanoo with the webs won't work either as Enton would burn them off, and using them as a defense won't help as his Enton weapons would make short work of it.

Sawarabi no Mai-Can be countered via Susanoo's weapons

Mugen Onsa is restricted so that isn't included.

Manda II is also pretty much a nonfactor here as any Enton weapon would effortlessly dispatch him in a second. There's also the fact Sasuke and turn him against Kabuto.

Defeating Kabuto.

While Kabuto has displayed the ability to evade Susanoo arrows via the enhanced reflexes of Sage Mode. Though it doesn't mean he'll be able to contiguously evade attacks coming at him in a wide volume. is a tech that comes to mind as he can shoot multiple Magatama at the same time.

There is also the fact that Kabuto cannot evade Amaterasu as he doesn't have speed on par with V2 Ay. While he can shred from it using Oral Rebirth, Sasuke can strike him with Enton Blade while he is coming out of the

He can also multitask using the Enton Blade and Enton Magatama at once to try and land a hit on Kabuto, since it would be harder to evade a giant blade being swung at you while trying to evade multiple Enton projectiles being fired at him. This is possible as his Susanoo has 3 arms in its and forms. Though using Complete would be suitable for Riding on Aoda, and Enton Magatama is even usable in that form since it also wields an Enton orb as shown in the link that shows the Complete Susanoo.

Once he gets pierced by that blade, well, its safe to say that it's over and that Oral Rebirth won't save him as him and his insides would be completely melted.








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The difference between me and 99% of the site, is... I know every character in and out, and not just common knowledge (muki tensei/white rage common techs). Next time list every other tech, or better yet ill help you out! =D



Here is kabuto regular:
Kabuto in part one equals Joinin on kakashi lv!
1) A super medic ninja on the level of Tsunade, , and saying he was even a better medic ninja then her in her prime (younger days)
2) A genius
3) can control dead bodies
4) can control the cells in his body or replace them to heal any part of his body at will. And can even focus chakra at one part of his body make any move (such as rasengan, chidori, etc) useless !
5) extreme knowledge on almost everyone (from moves to chakra reserves)
6) can kill you with his chakra blades
7) he can use genjutsu!
8) can use earth style! &



Kabuto in part two equals above kage level!
1)super sensor! because the snake senses heat, and can know your exact location even if you are underneath him. and with the second set of eyes (snake) he essentially has the byakugans field vision (but not x ray) &
2)summoning techs Manda 2! huge, and would destroy gamabunta and the other chief toads.
3) can shed his skin/body in a sec and swallow any ninja! If he does, your dead! (kept yamato alive because he had to..)
4) can control snakes from any part of his body like oru.
5) now has the curse mark (anko) to boost his chakra! &
6) Edo tensei, already prepared, and with the clap of his hands can summon them when ever he please anytime he please (he doesnt have to keep preparing once it has already been prepared)
7) still has "That other tech"..
8) access to super poisons like oru

Oru powers!
1) no physical atk can kill him!
2) 8 headed hydra tech! (doubt this one since it was also sealed by itachi i suppose,.. but then again, it could of been a transformation..) kabuto might can do it.lol might..
3) WHite snake poison!

And with all that many still want agree that he is one of the best if not the best shown so far.

Next we have Dragon sage mode:
Houzuki clans liquid body ability means no physical atks can harm him .
Uzamaki clans sensing and healing ability means he can sense you and heal with out hand signs (just like tsunade)
Juugos senjutsu gathering ability means infinite sage mode till deactivated manually or his chakra runs out to keep it balanced.
Heighten sensing from temperature alone thanks to his snake abilitys.
Cover over eyes to make visual genjutsu non effective.
enhanced speed, chakra, strength, endurance, stamina thanks to sage mode itself.



The sound 5 with The white snake is what really makes him the most broken ninja!
Jirobo:
Jirobo earth abilities allows him to absorb charkra and gives him the earth as a weapon to use as well.
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Using Jurobos strength he could knock susanoo around a bit! And with his earth jutsu's he could affect the environment in conjunction to muki tensei!

Kidomaru:
We seen the web and everything but lets get deeper!
With kidomaru it gives him the the ability to use almost unbreakable spider webs that can trap many opponents
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Then you add the ability to make some sort of super metal from his sweat glands as a defense to add with the super healing and water ability.
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The Web halting Susanoo; whether you keep burning or not, we will keep spamming the web and force you to waste chakra on using Ama'! lmao And with the golden armour, all ninjutsu is useless!

Sakon:
Sakons ability allows him to split i guess.lol
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With this ability we would be able to fight as kabuto and the other ninjas at once! So basically doing 2 things at once every single time!!!

TAyuya:
And he could summon the 3 demons of the flute to help keep you at bay while he uses his sage techs in conjunction!
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Can be used to distract sasuke while we plan for other things (basically more bodies for sasuke to worry about!)


Then last but not least the Bad ass named KIMIMARO:
The abilty to control your calcium to affect your bones and create a good offense or use as a good defense aswell..
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This keke genkai is no joke..
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He can use his bones as a weapon making them as hard as he would like.
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Then you add the fact that he could use their calcium to harden their body as well (creating a mask layer of bones) it adds an extra defense to kabutos already stacked def!

How it shits on sasuke: The bones poping up ant anytime means sasuke gets raped in Close combat! Susanoo will not be able to crush him! and We can and will use the bone forest accordingly!

Oru's white snake poison!
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Here is why he beats a full kill mode itachi or sasuke if they wanted to kill like many think they could have:
Lets look at the facts and the normal arsenal that Both ninjas already possess and what has been shown in the manga..


People who say "They could of amateratsu him anytime they wanted too"..


First off, Amaterasu isnt as instant as most ppl make it seem or want to believe! Every time that it has been shown in the manga Itachi And sasuke both have been shown to: 1. Close the eye FIRST (creates a charging notion), 2. Bleed from the eye second. This sequence of events is too long for any powerful shinobi let alone a super sensor fear (

1. It takes awhile and happens after the eye bleeds, And gives off "pressure". Kabuto knows of this jutsu and the gap in which it takes to preform is too big.

He can and will sense the tech and prepare for a counter! Or...???

2. He could simply use the tech that sasuke used. Amaratsu/Enton doesnt burn fast (fact), so its plenty of time to use the tech (like sasuke did) . As you can see it can be preformed fast anytime!

Here is manga FACT TO BACK MY CLAIMS UP!!!!
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With that being facts; Kabuto A. Is a super sensor B. He knows the tech takes awhile to hit C. He can simply shed his skin! SO any and All Enton/Ama' techs are 10000000% useless against him!


People who say genjutsu (NOT IZANAGI OR IZANAMI) Which means Tsukiyomi and other lower genjutsu..




1. He fights with his eyes covered or closed!!! With that being said, if you cannot make eye contact you cannot hit the opponent with all regular Uchiha genjutsu techs! . Which is the reason why he says they have the ability to affect a ninja outside the 5 senses (directly)

Hell this page alone is fact that they agree there old genjutsu they normaly use is not going to work! They literally admits this!!!
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If you say susanoo can get the job done!..

1. This could of did the job but he miscalculated..lol

2A. If Genjutsu and amaratsu (the 2 techs they use in susanoo) do not work the have to resort to physical attacks! As you can see are useless!! A sword to the head didnt do much but make him smile.lol
Physical atks are useless period!
And for the dumb people who do not know how to read!!! LIGHTNING ATKS WILL NOT WORK BECAUSE he can turn from human to water and water to human! Not his boby is constantly water!

2B. He is a medic and a super healer!!! He recovers too fast to be worried about anything physical!!!

2C. He is too fast in the dodging department!!! A super duper fast susanoo arrow from point blank up and close a few meters away range couldnt hit kabuto!!! -__- You cant argue with this!!! And as you know speed has been proven to be effective against there eyes!

Now too the important part!

Summons:
Kabuto Counters Aoda with Manda 2; and with the snake eyes being protected with a closed lids; genjutsu will not affect him!
Kabuto Counters the Hawk by using White rage! Birds cannot withstand Extreme light and sound (let alone together). While it may not be ultra super duper effective, it will 100% affect the bird in the sense that it will go berserk and affect Its flight with sasuke on its bask! "Ama' the white rage" will only work for so long!
Kabuto Counters Ama' With r that protects from anything chakra related! We will never be hurt by Ama/enton anything! Shedding isnt even needed! lmao
Kabuto Shitting on Susanoo; With Spiders/Muki tensei/Bone Forrest/Earth release affecting the ground he will be more than enough ready to take care of susanoo!
He also has Rashomon summon to block any attack that may be too much of a threat!

But the ultimate counter that Sasuke literally couldnt counter (manga fact), is...

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He gets paralyzed and will be a sitting duck! GG

Ill say again;
We have forever countered Ama/enton atatcks (too many counters to list! lmao).
Genjutsu is retarded to bring up.
All physical attacks are useless.
Kabuto Rapes!!!



Kabuto's tactics are different and it will never be as easy as your team think it would be, he is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy smarter than sasuke! He would expect everything your saying and counter accordingly, And keep in mind i can go on for days with what kabuto can use to defeat sasuke low difficulty! This is why no uchiha can fuq with Kabuto. I know both sides as if i Made there characters! lmao
 

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So many techs were used in your post that Kabuto has never shown. Debates go by FEATS. He hasn't shown it so he doesn't get it.
No! SO many Abilities have been used, not techs! Learn the difference! he can use the ability of Kimmi and kidomarus wed/bone! Fact! He can summon what they summon because he has their dna (just like orus snakes), fact!

I didnt list Jutsu's, i listed spl abilities that were displayed (out side of jirobos, and its fact he can use his ninjutsu earth style, and its a fact he is a earth style user.)

Bro i shitted on your post! Deal with it! haha
 

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i know this is a debate but would it actually have been the same thing if itachi wasnt there? i dont see how sasuke wins atm but hey this debate could be different though so lets find out
 

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No! SO many Abilities have been used, not techs! Learn the difference! he can use the ability of Kimmi and kidomarus wed/bone! Fact! He can summon what they summon because he has their dna (just like orus snakes), fact!

I didnt list Jutsu's, i listed spl abilities that were displayed (out side of jirobos, and its fact he can use his ninjutsu earth style, and its a fact he is a earth style user.)

Bro i shitted on your post! Deal with it! haha
Lol no, Yamato has Hashi's dna and we all know he can't use everything Hashi can ...Those were the only things he has shown ..and those are the only things he can use U_U Especially in a debate
 

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Lol no, Yamato has Hashi's dna and we all know he can't use everything Hashi can ...Those were the only things he has shown ..and those are the only things he can use U_U Especially in a debate
Umm again, Negative! Yamato doesnt have the level of chakra no knows all hashi's abilities! Kabuto knows all the ninjas he has and all their abilities from head to toe! He has also been shown to use the KKG and spl abilities fact! So dont compare yamato to hashi, when it is levels to this shit!

Thats like saying 3rd raikage cannot use black lighting!

Just because you dont agree with it doesnt make it not true! I shitted on your friends post, deal with it!
 

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Umm again, Negative! Yamato doesnt have the level of chakra no knows all hashi's abilities! Kabuto knows all the ninjas he has and all their abilities from head to toe! He has also been shown to use the KKG and spl abilities fact! So dont compare yamato to hashi, when it is levels to this shit!

Thats like saying 3rd raikage cannot use black lighting!

Just because you dont agree with it doesnt make it not true! I shitted on your friends post, deal with it!
Even with the included abilities. You really didn't shit on anyone's post, but I'll leave that to the judges.
 

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Even with the included abilities. You really didn't shit on anyone's post, but I'll leave that to the judges.
Ok Bub! lmao Only Noob Uchiha fans actually think sasuke can defeat kabuto (even with the restrictions in place!)

Your lucky you have Blaze (a real Uchiha supporter) on your team to help the weak as arguments y'all have!

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yo draegod I cant pm you, your thing is full. re enable your vm on your profile cus its a bch to pm you damn...:devil:

and yeah i heard kendricks verse he snapped lol
 

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yo draegod I cant pm you, your thing is full. re enable your vm on your profile cus its a bch to pm you damn...:devil:

and yeah i heard kendricks verse he snapped lol
Hell yea! Hopefully the new school rappers step their game up to bring real rap/hiphop back!

Me and my team is tryna "#Control" this tournament like Kendricks verse!!! haha

p.s. ill try to make room in the pm. haha
 
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-____-... SUPER WEAK!!!

The difference between me and 99% of the site, is... I know every character in and out, and not just common knowledge (muki tensei/white rage common techs). Next time list every other tech, or better yet ill help you out! =D
That's pretty funny, considering you left out possible exploits and did get facts wrong here. Not to mention that you're just listing every ability he has. Regardless of whether or not it truly helps him in this battle. To me, it seems like you're trying to sway the judges' minds or overwhelm them with all of Kabuto's abilities. When a majority of them are useless here.
Here is kabuto regular:
Kabuto in part one equals Joinin on kakashi lv!
1) A super medic ninja on the level of Tsunade, , and saying he was even a better medic ninja then her in her prime (younger days)
2) A genius
3) can control dead bodies
4) can control the cells in his body or replace them to heal any part of his body at will. And can even focus chakra at one part of his body make any move (such as rasengan, chidori, etc) useless !
5) extreme knowledge on almost everyone (from moves to chakra reserves)
6) can kill you with his chakra blades
7) he can use genjutsu!
8) can use earth style! &



Kabuto in part two equals above kage level!
1)super sensor! because the snake senses heat, and can know your exact location even if you are underneath him. and with the second set of eyes (snake) he essentially has the byakugans field vision (but not x ray) &
2)summoning techs Manda 2! huge, and would destroy gamabunta and the other chief toads.
3) can shed his skin/body in a sec and swallow any ninja! If he does, your dead! (kept yamato alive because he had to..)
4) can control snakes from any part of his body like oru.
5) now has the curse mark (anko) to boost his chakra! &
6) Edo tensei, already prepared, and with the clap of his hands can summon them when ever he please anytime he please (he doesnt have to keep preparing once it has already been prepared)
7) still has "That other tech"..
8) access to super poisons like oru

Oru powers!
1) no physical atk can kill him!
2) 8 headed hydra tech! (doubt this one since it was also sealed by itachi i suppose,.. but then again, it could of been a transformation..) kabuto might can do it.lol might..
3) WHite snake poison!


And with all that many still want agree that he is one of the best if not the best shown so far.

Next we have Dragon sage mode:
Houzuki clans liquid body ability means no physical atks can harm him .
Uzamaki clans sensing and healing ability means he can sense you and heal with out hand signs (just like tsunade)
Juugos senjutsu gathering ability means infinite sage mode till deactivated manually or his chakra runs out to keep it balanced.
Heighten sensing from temperature alone thanks to his snake abilitys.
Cover over eyes to make visual genjutsu non effective.
enhanced speed, chakra, strength, endurance, stamina thanks to sage mode itself.
This all just more proof that you're trying to show off Kabuto's move set even more and make it seem stacked in his favor. A few points don't exactly matter, we know, and are irrelevant. The bolded are some of the more worthless points. Yes, he has Edo Tensei at his disposal. But, that is not in this match. Is it?

He can kill a person with chakra blades, but then again a kunai could also kill someone. Anko? He never absorbed her curse seal, and unless she is nearby and available for use.. Why bring her up?

Manda 2 can be dealt with via Amaterasu or Enton. Not really a threat here. Yes, he does have a good deal of knowledge. But intel if full in this fight, this doesn't matter at all.

The genjutsu that Kabuto has shown was broken by a part 1 Sakura. I think it's safe to say that an EMS Sasuke will notice and easily break from this Genjutsu.

The Yamata No Orochi technique was Orochimaru's most powerful jutsu, noted in the Databooks. And it appeared to be a transformation more then anything. Not only that, but that form is simply a massive target for Amaterasu, or Kirin if this battle drags on for long enough.

As for swallowing an opponent whole, let's have him do that. Sasuke could then counter by activating Susano'o inside Kabuto and splitting the Dragon apart.

For someone who knows SO much about these characters; you'd think you would phrase this better. He doesn't have the Hozuki clan's ability. .

And yes, he can remain in Sage Mode... Until he runs out of chakra to balance the Nature Chakra with. When that happens, he's most likely going to be exhausted and unable to use a plethora of his jutsu due to a lack of chakra. Making it easy pickings for Sasuke.

The sound 5 with The white snake is what really makes him the most broken ninja!
Jirobo:
Jirobo earth abilities allows him to absorb charkra and gives him the earth as a weapon to use as well.
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Using Jurobos strength he could knock susanoo around a bit! And with his earth jutsu's he could affect the environment in conjunction to muki tensei!
And, Kabuto will be going into close quarters now to physically fight off Susano'o...? What is this? if he were to do that, you do realize that he would be on the receiving end of an Enton blade or Amaterasu. Even if a direct strike is not made with an Enton blade, to it that could still make contact and do damage to Kabuto.

Kabuto could counter with Oral Rebirth; but we both know how chakra costing that is compared to Enton. Let Kabuto do that each and every time he comes into close range to "Knock Susano'o around".
Kidomaru:
We seen the web and everything but lets get deeper!
With kidomaru it gives him the the ability to use almost unbreakable spider webs that can trap many opponents
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Then you add the ability to make some sort of super metal from his sweat glands as a defense to add with the super healing and water ability.
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The Web halting Susanoo; whether you keep burning or not, we will keep spamming the web and force you to waste chakra on using Ama'! lmao And with the golden armour, all ninjutsu is useless!
"Spamming Amaterasu". No, no need for that, kind sir. We can make use of the already IN use Amaterasu and simply coat a rib caged Susano'o with it. Making the webs useless, no matter how much you spam. Let's see how that goes while Sasuke makes a charge and Kabuto simply shoots out webs.

Now, this defense of yours is quite the conundrum... Not really. Yes, apparently chakra piercing it won't work. But what about ? While in his little golden armor, what's to stop one of the massive arms from Susano'o from coming down and grabbing hold of Kabuto and crushing the Sage, much like he did Danzo? Would Kabuto's agility even be as great if he were weighed down by the "Steel armor"? I have my doubts it would have no effect on him, speed wise.

Sakon:
Sakons ability allows him to split i guess.lol
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With this ability we would be able to fight as kabuto and the other ninjas at once! So basically doing 2 things at once every single time!!!
Expect, none of those Kabuto pulled from himself have shown the ability to think for themselves. There's a very real possability that they can only move, and use jutsu when connected to Kabuto and where he can issue demands
there.
TAyuya:
And he could summon the 3 demons of the flute to help keep you at bay while he uses his sage techs in conjunction!
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Can be used to distract sasuke while we plan for other things (basically more bodies for sasuke to worry about!)
Tayuya is useless, even supposing her Doki can be used here they're no factor. A simple Chidori Eisō could rip them apart. These creatures aren't factors in this battle. Hate to break it ta' ya'.

Then last but not least the Bad ass named KIMIMARO:
The abilty to control your calcium to affect your bones and create a good offense or use as a good defense aswell..
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This keke genkai is no joke..
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He can use his bones as a weapon making them as hard as he would like.
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Then you add the fact that he could use their calcium to harden their body as well (creating a mask layer of bones) it adds an extra defense to kabutos already stacked def!

How it shits on sasuke: The bones poping up ant anytime means sasuke gets raped in Close combat! Susanoo will not be able to crush him! and We can and will use the bone forest accordingly!
And here comes one of the few threats to Sasuke, Kimimaro. While some of this is true, you honestly think that Susano'o can't crush and slice through Kimimaro's bones? Even though it's in the manga? While it's normally a formidable move and KKG to have; before Susano'o i's utterly useless.

As for Sawarabi no Mai; this jutsu seems to simply make bones pop up and grow out of the ground at a random rate. It other wise he would have simply aimed to have one or two impale the leg's of the Uchiha Brothers.


Oru's white snake poison!
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Here is why he beats a full kill mode itachi or sasuke if they wanted to kill like many think they could have:
Lets look at the facts and the normal arsenal that Both ninjas already possess and what has been shown in the manga..
Yes, this is a deadly attack. But, you fail to realize that Sasuke can counter this a few different ways. One, the way he did . Crushing the hulk of snakes, and making a small cut instead of simply shredding the thing like Sasuke did the first time. And once more, you forget that there is full knowledge here. He knows not to cut Orochimaru's true form open. A Katon could actually take care of this threat. And, an interesting point to mention is that Kabuto is still connected TO the snake. This would be an ideal time for Sasuke to actually fire off a Susano'o Arrow or Amaterasu at Kabuto.


People who say "They could of amateratsu him anytime they wanted too"..


First off, Amaterasu isnt as instant as most ppl make it seem or want to believe! Every time that it has been shown in the manga Itachi And sasuke both have been shown to: 1. Close the eye FIRST (creates a charging notion), 2. Bleed from the eye second. This sequence of events is too long for any powerful shinobi let alone a super sensor fear (

1. It takes awhile and happens after the eye bleeds, And gives off "pressure". Kabuto knows of this jutsu and the gap in which it takes to preform is too big.

He can and will sense the tech and prepare for a counter! Or...???

2. He could simply use the tech that sasuke used. Amaratsu/Enton doesnt burn fast (fact), so its plenty of time to use the tech (like sasuke did) . As you can see it can be preformed fast anytime!

Here is manga FACT TO BACK MY CLAIMS UP!!!!
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With that being facts; Kabuto A. Is a super sensor B. He knows the tech takes awhile to hit C. He can simply shed his skin! SO any and All Enton/Ama' techs are 10000000% useless against him!
What are you even saying here? You do realize that the MS is not the same as the EMS, right? You're giving an EMS Sasuke MS feats. You even provided an image of Sasuke using Amaterasu . No eye closing, no bleeding. Nothing of the sort.

As for the "It doesn't burn so fast." How do you care to explain this? the stomach of a toad rather quickly.

While Kabuto could sense the attack coming, reacting to it is something I doubt he will do. Or, to the level that Obito has. Don't forget that Obito's stats were drastically improved when he became the host for the Juubi. Capable of and even

The odds of Kabuto being as strong a sensor as an Obito with the Juubi inside of him is a joke. And the idea that when Kabuto does indeed sense it coming, that he'll react as quickly is a bigger one.


People who say genjutsu (NOT IZANAGI OR IZANAMI) Which means Tsukiyomi and other lower genjutsu..




1. He fights with his eyes covered or closed!!! With that being said, if you cannot make eye contact you cannot hit the opponent with all regular Uchiha genjutsu techs! . Which is the reason why he says they have the ability to affect a ninja outside the 5 senses (directly)

Hell this page alone is fact that they agree there old genjutsu they normaly use is not going to work! They literally admits this!!!
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I agree, Genjutsu will hold no place in this battle.


If you say susanoo can get the job done!..

1. This could of did the job but he miscalculated..lol

2A. If Genjutsu and amaratsu (the 2 techs they use in susanoo) do not work the have to resort to physical attacks! As you can see are useless!! A sword to the head didnt do much but make him smile.lol
Physical atks are useless period!
And for the dumb people who do not know how to read!!! LIGHTNING ATKS WILL NOT WORK BECAUSE he can turn from human to water and water to human! Not his boby is constantly water!
So, you mean to tell us that a raiton attack will have no effect on a physical Kabuto? Just because he can regenerate doesn't mean such techniques won't effect him. And who's to say that a chidori spear won't be aimed at a lethal part of his anatomy. A heart, lung, head. Can he regenerate this, and then react to another onslaught of moves from the last Uchiha?

2B. He is a medic and a super healer!!! He recovers too fast to be worried about anything physical!!!

2C. He is too fast in the dodging department!!! A super duper fast susanoo arrow from point blank up and close a few meters away range couldnt hit kabuto!!! -__- You cant argue with this!!! And as you know speed has been proven to be effective against there eyes!

Now too the important part!

Summons:
Kabuto Counters Aoda with Manda 2; and with the snake eyes being protected with a closed lids; genjutsu will not affect him!
Kabuto Counters the Hawk by using White rage! Birds cannot withstand Extreme light and sound (let alone together). While it may not be ultra super duper effective, it will 100% affect the bird in the sense that it will go berserk and affect Its flight with sasuke on its bask! "Ama' the white rage" will only work for so long!
Kabuto Counters Ama' With r that protects from anything chakra related! We will never be hurt by Ama/enton anything! Shedding isnt even needed! lmao
Kabuto Shitting on Susanoo; With Spiders/Muki tensei/Bone Forrest/Earth release affecting the ground he will be more than enough ready to take care of susanoo!
He also has Rashomon summon to block any attack that may be too much of a threat!
Manda 2 is useless, as I stated much earlier. or Amaterasu defeats this summon.

White Rage is not too effective in an open environment. The sole reason why it was so devistating was because the light and the sound were condensed in the cave. Now, in an open field. Both will naturally expand out and be dilluted. Not to mention that Sasuke could counter act White Rage this time around. He has knowledge on it, you see. What's to stop him from attacking it with an such as this one?

This jutsu is a non-factor here. And now you mention Muki Tensei; Kabuto has only moved the environment with this jutsu. He has never manipulated it to make drastic changes. Not to mention the heat given off from high level katon jutsu will counter act this.

You've also made a point to note Kabuto's speed and agility, but in a cave he has a roof top he can easily latch onto and evade there. He will have no such luck in the open field. Nor will he have anywhere to hide. If he tries to jump into the air to avoid an attack, Sasuke could simply follow through or use his sharingan's natural precognition ability to predict his course of movements and send whatever jutsu he wishes to the area where Kabuto is going.

Also, Itachi was capable of keeping up with Kabuto. Don't over exaggerate his speed here. While it's impressive, it's nothing Sasuke or any sharingan user can't keep track of and keep up with.
But the ultimate counter that Sasuke literally couldnt counter (manga fact), is...

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He gets paralyzed and will be a sitting duck! GG

Ill say again;
We have forever countered Ama/enton atatcks (too many counters to list! lmao).
Genjutsu is retarded to bring up.
All physical attacks are useless.
Kabuto Rapes!!!



Kabuto's tactics are different and it will never be as easy as your team think it would be, he is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy smarter than sasuke! He would expect everything your saying and counter accordingly, And keep in mind i can go on for days with what kabuto can use to defeat sasuke low difficulty! This is why no uchiha can fuq with Kabuto. I know both sides as if i Made there characters! lmao
Quit patting yourself on the back, it makes you look like a jackass. You're manipulating some of the facts here. You return to Orochimaru's true form. But once more, you neglect to include that he has already countered it another time. That he now has knowledge on it. And that when he first came over the deadly effects from the blood, he was in an enclosed space.

In, ONCE MORE, an open environment the blood that vaporizes into the air will be dispersed and Sasuke could either avoid it that way or the effects will be severely reduced. Not to mention that Sasuke's Susano'o can potentially protect him from it. It seemed to in the past and I do not see why this would be much different.

While Kabuto is a formidable foe, he has nothing in his arsenal to damage or wound Sasuke severely outside of his cave. The best he can do it dodge and recover over and over again.
 

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Umm again, Negative! Yamato doesnt have the level of chakra no knows all hashi's abilities! Kabuto knows all the ninjas he has and all their abilities from head to toe! He has also been shown to use the KKG and spl abilities fact! So dont compare yamato to hashi, when it is levels to this shit!

Thats like saying 3rd raikage cannot use black lighting!

Just because you dont agree with it doesnt make it not true! I shitted on your friends post, deal with it!
Does he have feats in Black Lightning? Get that shit outta here.

Obito has Senju DNA, and by your logic, Obito can use Hashirama's Wood Dragon? Obito definitely has the Chakra for it.

Danzo has the Sharingan, but no feats in Sharingan: Genjutsu. Can he use Sharingan: Genjutsu in a debate? No.

Edit: I expected more from you Draegod.
 
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