[Theory] Navigating the New World

Lili-Chwan

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*Spoiler alert, contains information from the latest Manga Chapter, 653*


I have a theory. The compass doesn't lock on Raftel. I just thought about it. What if when some pirate crew miraculously tries to reach the final island, they instead find the end of the grand line back to one of the Blues? It's like, they think it's the final island, go there, and then suddenly they're out of the grandline. To reach the End of the Grandline, one had to go a different path.

Now that I think about it, it's a bit weird that they showed us a compass that determines which island is the calmest. I know it requires a great navigator to understand which one is the best (Though I kinda looks it's more like, requires a person that knows when something shakes more xd), but still, doesn't that seem way to easy? If they hadn't left FI, I'd say next chapter someone was going to warn them that the more easy islands you pick, the higher the chances of you falling out of the Grand Line and go to the Blues. So it's like, you must take some risks, or you will loose the "game". But since they were in a rush to leave, and the King didn't want to bother them with bad news, maybe they hid that information, and someone later in the game will tell them.

Following that line, I'd say that if you always fallow the most dangerous island, eventually you will reach Raftel, whereas any other course would take you to the Blues eventually. Luffy already wants to do this, because of the adventure, and he thinks a lot like Roger. Maybe he too followed the most dangerous course, when no one else dared to, and thus he reached the end of the Grand Line.

Even if my theory isn't right, now that we are presented with option of route, we can try to find a key. If we see that they keep choosing the hardest route and find signs of Roger, then maybe my theory is correct.


Another theory is that they find phoneglyphs and the phoneglyphs themselves hint which route to take. The first clue should be on Fishman Island's phoneglyph, and thus I'd expect Robin to say anything in the next or so chapter regarding that, and confirming the theory, but in a sense, I think it would be too simple if they discover the key that soon.
 

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Nice theory Lili-chwaan taking the road wich is less used... Ok that's how Luffy's logic works xd
 

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i had a similar thought i think thats why roger and luffy will be a pirate king and thats what roger told whitebeard but surely someone else would take a harder rute as well (doubt it)
 

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I somehow think that Raftel cannot be picked up by any compass.

And to find it, Luffy has to use the ability to hear the "Voice of Everything" to find it.
 
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I somehow think that Raftel cannot be picked up by any compass.

Or that. Maybe there's an island with cliff, and at the end of that cliff there's a phoneglyph. There's nothing in sight other than ocean. Reading the phoneglyph will point a direction, and following that direction is Raftel xd
 

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I agree with the second part regarding the phoneglyphs but regarding the first part of your theory ,there is a catch.
there are 3 needles that point to 3 different islands because in the new world they could loose track of the magnetic field of the island at any time.As per your theory ,say if try to go to most dangerous island and in middle of the journey that magnetic field collapses .They would not be able to track the island in first place This is the catch, instead they have an option of traveling only the other 2.
It is not a definite course anymore .It all depends on probability and chances from now on,chances that the magnetic field of that island should shut off at a given time.
 

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I agree with the second part regarding the phoneglyphs but regarding the first part of your theory ,there is a catch.
there are 3 needles that point to 3 different islands because in the new world they could loose track of the magnetic field of the island at any time.As per your theory ,say if try to go to most dangerous island and in middle of the journey that magnetic field collapses .They would not be able to track the island in first place This is the catch, instead they have an option of traveling only the other 2.
It is not a definite course anymore .It all depends on probability and chances from now on,chances that the magnetic field of that island should shut off at a given time.
 

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I agree with the second part regarding the phoneglyphs but regarding the first part of your theory ,there is a catch.
there are 3 needles that point to 3 different islands because in the new world they could loose track of the magnetic field of the island at any time.As per your theory ,say if try to go to most dangerous island and in middle of the journey that magnetic field collapses .They would not be able to track the island in first place This is the catch, instead they have an option of traveling only the other 2.
It is not a definite course anymore .It all depends on probability and chances from now on,chances that the magnetic field of that island should shut off at a given time.

Maybe a junction of the two theories? A clue in the phoneglyph tells us at which time we should set sail in order to guarantee the link doesn't break :confused:
 

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I thought there was only one way in and one way out of the grand line...
surrounded by the calm belt?? how do they just fall out of the grand line??
 

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I generally don't post in the One Piece section since Lili, Boa and Nose-kun cover the majority of the theories, but here's something I haven't read so far:

We saw in the FI arc that the Sea Kings have a mind of their own, a social structure (having a Queen), and a relative intellect. Now with that in mind, in all the vast ocean there's but one beast who can surely roam the seas freely; Sea Kings. These creatures are more than likely to have run across raftnel at some point (consciously or not), in fact, they may be the key to reaching raftnel for the same reason Lili explained (there's no compass leading there).

So, since they're intelligent beast, they were shown to remember things, and they were shown to know Roger (or at least someone with a Straw Hat, which could also hint to Shank, though I doubt it), I'd say only those who establish a connection with the Sea Kings can reach raftnel. They are the key to both the location of the island and the mean to get there.
 

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Maybe a junction of the two theories? A clue in the phoneglyph tells us at which time we should set sail in order to guarantee the link doesn't break :confused:

It all depends on their navigator's skill .The best Navigator will be able to find Raftel even without any log pose based only on intuition :p and there are no such thing as best navigator :D.
WB in his 50 year pirate life could have found Raftel if your theory is correct.There is one more thing missing in your theory .It is called destiny :izuna:
 

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I generally don't post in the One Piece section since Lili, Boa and Nose-kun cover the majority of the theories, but here's something I haven't read so far:

We saw in the FI arc that the Sea Kings have a mind of their own, a social structure (having a Queen), and a relative intellect. Now with that in mind, in all the vast ocean there's but one beast who can surely roam the seas freely; Sea Kings. These creatures are more than likely to have run across raftnel at some point (consciously or not), in fact, they may be the key to reaching raftnel for the same reason Lili explained (there's no compass leading there).

So, since they're intelligent beast, they were shown to remember things, and they were shown to know Roger (or at least someone with a Straw Hat, which could also hint to Shank, though I doubt it), I'd say only those who establish a connection with the Sea Kings can reach raftnel. They are the key to both the location of the island and the mean to get there.

That someone was roger!! and he could hear them thanks to his ability to hear the voice of all things. And the human with straw hat that the sea kings were referring to was luffy no one else.
The connection with the sea kings you seem to be indicating is the ability to hear the voice of all things which would mean there could be more than one ways to reach raftel if luffy awakens it.
 

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It all depends on their navigator's skill .The best Navigator will be able to find Raftel even without any log pose based only on intuition :p and there are no such thing as best navigator :D.
WB in his 50 year pirate life could have found Raftel if your theory is correct.There is one more thing missing in your theory .It is called destiny :izuna:

Whitebeard wasn't looking for One Piece

 

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I thought there was only one way in and one way out of the grand line...
surrounded by the calm belt?? how do they just fall out of the grand line??

Maybe the New World works differently?

I generally don't post in the One Piece section since Lili, Boa and Nose-kun cover the majority of the theories, but here's something I haven't read so far:

We saw in the FI arc that the Sea Kings have a mind of their own, a social structure (having a Queen), and a relative intellect. Now with that in mind, in all the vast ocean there's but one beast who can surely roam the seas freely; Sea Kings. These creatures are more than likely to have run across raftnel at some point (consciously or not), in fact, they may be the key to reaching raftnel for the same reason Lili explained (there's no compass leading there).

So, since they're intelligent beast, they were shown to remember things, and they were shown to know Roger (or at least someone with a Straw Hat, which could also hint to Shank, though I doubt it), I'd say only those who establish a connection with the Sea Kings can reach raftnel. They are the key to both the location of the island and the mean to get there.

I think I posted something like that before xd
Either way that does make sense and I like how you worded it, makes me want to come back to that theory again.

So Raftel doesn't pick up a Magnetic field, and that is why no one is able to roam there. In addition to that, like many of us suggested before, Raftel could be guarded by Sea Kings, so any sailor that got lost wouldn't be able to drift to Raftel.

The key to reach Raftel is to establish a connection with the Seak Kings.
 

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I think it works this way, something similar to what this trailer has at the end. If you're that impatient, go to 1:33 of the video.



Watch the movie. It's one of the reasons why I picked One Piece up.
 

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Like a huge waterfall at the end of the Grandline. Could be xd
 

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an interesting thought, but i think that in itself is too simple, there must be other obstacles in the way of people from finding the OP, we know WB didn't go there cuz he had no interest in it..but what stopped BB? or other strong pirates...even big mom's underlings are 300 mil+ so there must be other pirates with sort of bounties..i don't think they're the type to back away from 'danger'. plus WB told BB he doesn't have what it takes so my guess is its something to do with the will of the D. n something that WB saw in luffy but not in BB
 

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Maybe the New World works differently?



I think I posted something like that before xd
Either way that does make sense and I like how you worded it, makes me want to come back to that theory again.

So Raftel doesn't pick up a Magnetic field, and that is why no one is able to roam there. In addition to that, like many of us suggested before, Raftel could be guarded by Sea Kings, so any sailor that got lost wouldn't be able to drift to Raftel.

The key to reach Raftel is to establish a connection with the Seak Kings.

But that would imply that whitebeard could also hear the voice of all things since roger was going to tell whitebeard about how to get to raftel. :shrug:
 

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Maybe the New World works differently?



I think I posted something like that before xd
Either way that does make sense and I like how you worded it, makes me want to come back to that theory again.

So Raftel doesn't pick up a Magnetic field, and that is why no one is able to roam there. In addition to that, like many of us suggested before, Raftel could be guarded by Sea Kings, so any sailor that got lost wouldn't be able to drift to Raftel.

The key to reach Raftel is to establish a connection with the Seak Kings.

Lilli Chan ,please do not take Oda's place :p.
Raftel not having a magnetic field and can be tracked tracked only with the help of the sea king sounds very plausible.I guess this is why Oda fore showed us about luffy hearing about sea kings.Common what twist can that add to the story.It makes perfect sense now if the sea kings are one of the keys for finding Raftel.
Now all we need to do is wait patiently wait for another 8 to 10 years :izuna:
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