[Discussion] Natsu vs Kagura

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natsu is underestimated.In a serious fight he can defeat anyone if he is protecting someone he cares.
Dude... just ****ing no, he wanted to protect everyone on tenroujima, did he beat Anoligofdvfbvbdvfb(**** it, the black dragon), point is, in FT power levels are hard to judge, but still there are some distinct levels, even though, when the nakama stuff comes up all rules are tossed out, still that doesn't mean we should over-exaggerate
 

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I think most of the fights win by fairy tail during the magic games was part of plotshield

However with this scwnario natsu rapes







You just HAVE to be that much higher than bim to beat POF LFD natsu protecting erza lol
 
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So you're saying we should ignore the feat? No way.

And yes, she's faster than Erza in Flight Armor, but Erza's faster than him in her Nakama clothing clad with Benizakura.
well considering kagura was able to counter the flight armor speed easily plus gravity change there is not anything supporting that nastu would be able to keep up with her plus you are the one who can't back up his claims the whole series has been erza>natsu and I'm sure that will change but for right now Kagura(who is on erzas level) has more skill and a more versatile skill set does natsu even have a way to counter being cut by her sword?
 
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Thi is BS that its still discussed... Kagura is equal to Erza if not greater.

-She was able to fend off both Minerva and Erza at once
-She made Erza hurt herself in her Flight Armor
-She one shotted the Adamantine Defense
-She kicked Erza to a great distance
-She had incredible speed that Erza could barely follow
^^^^^THIS WAS ALL DONE WITH HER SHEATHED SWORD^^^^^​

With her Unsheathed sword she obliterated a lot of th city. Plot Shield allowed Erza to win, as well as the fact Kagura wasnt fully focused because of the anger after what Erza told her
 

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Thi is BS that its still discussed... Kagura is equal to Erza if not greater.

-She was able to fend off both Minerva and Erza at once
-She made Erza hurt herself in her Flight Armor
-She one shotted the Adamantine Defense
-She kicked Erza to a great distance
-She had incredible speed that Erza could barely follow
^^^^^THIS WAS ALL DONE WITH HER SHEATHED SWORD^^^^^​

With her Unsheathed sword she obliterated a lot of th city. Plot Shield allowed Erza to win, as well as the fact Kagura wasnt fully focused because of the anger after what Erza told her
 

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well considering kagura was able to counter the flight armor speed easily plus gravity change there is not anything supporting that nastu would be able to keep up with her plus you are the one who can't back up his claims the whole series has been erza>natsu and I'm sure that will change but for right now Kagura(who is on erzas level) has more skill and a more versatile skill set does natsu even have a way to counter being cut by her sword?
Umm. I'm the one who asked you to provide feats for your statements but here you are, doing the same thing, if you're incapable of doing so, just concede.

Erza > Natsu is never gonna change if you only look at portrayal. Look at feats and you'll see how small the difference is.

Gravity change is featless against anybody other than a featless spirit.

Natsu has reaction speed feats of reacting on Laxus' lightning. Unless you wanna argue that Laxus' attacks are slower than Kagura?

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Another speed feat:
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He made actual afterimages, do you see this again?

He has the firepower to take Kagura out:
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That's not even the full scale of it and that was before gaining second origin.

His punch:
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Do you see this? That was a casual punch thrown by Base Natsu. BASE Natsu. Imagine how strong it'd have been if he was in LFD?

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Last one. It vaporised buildings. Vaporising one >>>> Pulversing one.

Now prove to me what Kagura can do to tank those attacks and how she's outrunning Natsu.
 
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Umm. I'm the one who asked you to provide feats for your statements but here you are, doing the same thing, if you're incapable of doing so, just concede.

Erza > Natsu is never gonna change if you only look at portrayal. Look at feats and you'll see how small the difference is.

Gravity change is featless against anybody other than a featless spirit.

Natsu has reaction speed feats of reacting on Laxus' lightning. Unless you wanna argue that Laxus' attacks are slower than Kagura?

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Another speed feat:
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He made actual afterimages, do you see this again?

He has the firepower to take Kagura out:
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That's not even the full scale of it and that was before gaining second origin.

His punch:
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Do you see this? That was a casual punch thrown by Base Natsu. BASE Natsu. Imagine how strong it'd have been if he was in LFD?

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Last one. It vaporised buildings. Vaporising one >>>> Pulversing one.

Now prove to me what Kagura can do to tank those attacks and how she's outrunning Natsu.
lol first of all please stop all this afterimage stuff your talking about you can clearly see in the panel that it is showing where Natsu is stepping when he is dodging the attacks if it was an afterimage the attacks would be going right through them you can see natsu is ducking and stuff to avoid the punches the whole panel is showing him dodging while getting closer he is not creating afterimages it's just the motion of dodging these are afterimages

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Kagura has her own DC feats like destroying a large portion of the city with one sword slash
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and as for durability her tanking Minervas Yagdo Rigora is more than enough considering that spell was a concentrated beam of energy that destroyed a building and has a shockwave that could be felt a long distance away...Jura the 5th ranked wizard saint was even amazed Minerva could do something like that and everyone watching was surprised Kagura and erza were almost unfazed afterwards

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please come back when you actually know what you are talking about
 
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