Naruto's true rival is...

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That would be a great twist and I kinda agree a bit. Indra is supposed to be a god, that's what Madara became right now and Ashura always challenges the gods. If Kishi follows this, Naruto and Madara should be the reincarnation of the sage's sons. But that would mean Sasuke doesn't have any importance right now.

Madara was dead, so I think that the eldest son's chakra was reincarnated into Sasuke, but now that Madara is revived, he still has the will of the eldest son, but isn't his reincarnation anymore. Because if I read correctly, it's the chakra that gets reincarnated, not the soul...
 

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That would be a great twist and I kinda agree a bit. Indra is supposed to be a god, that's what Madara became right now and Ashura always challenges the gods. If Kishi follows this, Naruto and Madara should be the reincarnation of the sage's sons. But that would mean Sasuke doesn't have any importance right now.

Madara was dead, so I think that the eldest son's chakra was reincarnated into Sasuke, but now that Madara is revived, he still has the will of the eldest son, but isn't his reincarnation anymore. Because if I read correctly, it's the chakra that gets reincarnated, not the soul...

Indeed, it might be possible. +rep for you sir, I like the reasonable thinking :)
 

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One thing is confirmed fodderuto will need all the tailed beast to even stand in front of Sasukes perfect susanoo. As the sages younger son needed.
Another thing is confirmed the Uchiha are supreme there power alone solos the nv and it takes cooperation with others to stand in front of them.
Hashirama was unique somehow he gt the body of the jyubi allowing him mokuton.
 

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One thing is confirmed fodderuto will need all the tailed beast to even stand in front of Sasukes perfect susanoo. As the sages younger son needed.
Another thing is confirmed the Uchiha are supreme there power alone solos the nv and it takes cooperation with others to stand in front of them.
Hashirama was unique somehow he gt the body of the jyubi allowing him mokuton.

u r drunk, go sleep bro
 

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One thing is confirmed fodderuto will need all the tailed beast to even stand in front of Sasukes perfect susanoo. As the sages younger son needed.
Another thing is confirmed the Uchiha are supreme there power alone solos the nv and it takes cooperation with others to stand in front of them.
Hashirama was unique somehow he gt the body of the jyubi allowing him mokuton.

Didn't the sage just say that Naruto possesses Ashura's chakra? What if the sage teach Naruto to unlock Ashura's chakra. Naruto sucked at chakra control and since the war began mostly used Kurama's power, but now that he mastered chakra control, what if he learns to use Ashura's chakra instead?... But I doubt that. The sage wants cooperation, so I think he will use the bijuu's chakra.

And don't forget, Naruto is getting a power up to fight Madaranot Sasuke. I get the feeling that he will only use the bijuu chakra temporarily and fight Sasuke with his own strength. By the way, Sasuke is getting cells pumped into him right now. He needs all the help he can get too...
 

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These are only your assumptions that the elder is suppose to be the main antagonist at all times. Before this people were preaching Obito was also the elder son..
 

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These are only your assumptions.

Of course. I never said they are facts. But we don't have any facts now, neither about Madara or Sasuke, so they are all assumptions. What's the point of your post?

These are only your assumptions that the elder is suppose to be the main antagonist at all times. Before this people were preaching Obito was also the elder son..

Since you have edited it:
Please, if you think that the elder son's spirit/ideals/incarnation/whatever is not the main antagonism, you most certainly do not understand the idea of this manga at all.
 

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It could be both Madara and Sasuke.

Madara was the reincarnation of the older son, but he died so it moved on to Sasuke, but than Madara was revived and now they both are.
 

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It's very possible, I agree it could be Madara. Hopefully well get some clarification on that.
 

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Of course. I never said they are facts. But we don't have any facts now, neither about Madara or Sasuke, so they are all assumptions. What's the point of your post?



Since you have edited it:
Please, if you think that the elder son's spirit/ideals/incarnation/whatever is not the main antagonism, you most certainly do not understand the idea of this manga at all.

Madara could have only inherited his will. Would you say Hashirama was the reincarnation of the younger just because he had the same views as well? The main story focus is on Naruto and Sasuke. You lack the basic understanding of a main characters role and one can say you're jumping to conclusions. The manga has confirmed there were multiple reincarnations as well.
 

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Madara could have only inherited his will. Would you say Hashirama was the reincarnation of the younger just because he had the same views as well? The main story focus is on Naruto and Sasuke. You lack the basic understanding of a main characters role and one can say you're jumping to conclusions.

No, in fact, you are the one who is jumping to conclusions, I haven't made any yet, I only talk of possibilities. It would be obvious for you if you had read my posts in this thread, which you apparently hadn't done before posting this. Do it, and then come back for a proper discussion. Right now you look like an orthodox fanboy who doesn't want to think.
 

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No, in fact, you are the one who is jumping to conclusions, I haven't made any yet, I only talk of possibilities. It would be obvious for you if you had read my posts in this thread, which you apparently hadn't done before posting this. Do it, and then come back for a proper discussion. Right now you look like an orthodox fanboy who doesn't want to think.

Now you're just whining. I read the OP and replied. Next time use a simple word like theory, if you claim it as one. Naruto rival has always been Sasuke.
 
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it is definitly Sasuke since Maadara already died before Sasuke was born so probably he is the the incarnation of the older brother. Maadara and Hashirama can be argued to be the previous incarnation of the brothers but they both died so the next incarnation is sasuke and naruto. Any way what happened to the hermit of the six paths other brother? what clans did he form???
 

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Madara was still alive when Sasuke was born, 'cause that's when Obito released Kyuubi, and Madara was alive back then so Sasuke can't be the reincarnation, it's Madara, because that would be a huge plot twist and Kishi probably wants us to think it's Sasuke because it was always going by parallels so he wants to troll us, and since naruto is a successor that means he is new so6p which is so not fair to sasuke, but whatever
 

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and no, naruto's rival is not sasuke cause they teamed up against madara so think harder.. WE ALL HAVE TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT MANGA IS CALLED NARUTO NOT SASUKE SO PLEASE STFU
 
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