Naruto's strenght without nine tail

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you're a perfect example of what i posted. only butt hurt fan boys cry and real haters, like yourself, bring up other characters that aren't being mentioned on this particular thread. lol nice fail at trying to diss me though.



this thread is asking a simple question. so for all of you to get all butt hurt and start bringing another character into this is pathetic. what's really stupid here is your "logic". i suggest you read what the person above you posted before trying to talk cr*p.
And this is why I have lost hope for this generation...

It's completely relevant to bring both his parents into the equation because the Kyuubi sealing is directly correlated to his parents deaths.

Kyuubi sealed in Naruto - Parents die.

No Kyuubi attack - Kushina and Minato live and teach Naruto various techniques. Not to mention, Naruto would have better chakra control without Kurama and probably would of been a genius with Minato raising him.

My post pertains to my thoughts, not to the person who posted directly above me. You lack sufficient comprehension and analytical skills to draw up basic conclusions when given an obvious scenario. Before you hit out at me for my post and its "logic" which you severely lack, at least come back with better grammar (Ever heard of capitalizing?) and proper comprehension skills.
 

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He would be stronger then Neji and Sasuke.. at the start of the series.... lol. His potential and his chakra puts him above them. He would've been trained, due to him being the 4th's son. :D. Would've been the most popular kid in school.
 

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Naruto without Kurama = No Manga..
But seriously, people need to stop with this already.. It is what it is and we will never know how strong Naruto could or would have been without Kurama... He earned the rights to use Kurama's powers and none can beg to differ.
 
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And this is why I have lost hope for this generation...

It's completely relevant to bring both his parents into the equation because the Kyuubi sealing is directly correlated to his parents deaths.

Kyuubi sealed in Naruto - Parents die.

No Kyuubi attack - Kushina and Minato live and teach Naruto various techniques. Not to mention, Naruto would have better chakra control without Kurama and probably would of been a genius with Minato raising him.

My post pertains to my thoughts, not to the person who posted directly above me. You lack sufficient comprehension and analytical skills to draw up basic conclusions when given an obvious scenario. Before you hit out at me for my post and its "logic" which you severely lack, at least come back with better grammar (Ever heard of capitalizing?) and proper comprehension skills.
the guy asked a simple question. either answer it and get on with life or don't bother coming in and making a big fuss over a fictional character. bringing other people into it to try to make comparisons is very irrelevant. just shows how much of a childish hater you and anyone else doing the same thing is. like i told the other guy, try to pay attention to exactly what i respond to before looking like a total fool because i never said anything about his parents.

as for my "bad grammar". last i checked i'm not writing to anyone of any type of importance, nor am i in class so i can slkdfja;ka dfkjsdfh lfjkds as much as i want. :)

this is also very irrelevant to this thread which only shows you have nothing at all to come back at me on. its also pretty pathetically childish to bring something up like grammar, especially when its hardly needed.
 

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I don't understand as to HOW people could possibly think that Naruto would have absolutely NOTHING without Kyuubi.

His parents would then be alive.

Kushina had strong chakra, vitality, and advanced sealing jutsu.

Minato has Rasengan, FTG, and God knows what else.

Generally speaking, parents in Konoha have a tendency to teach their kids their tricks. Choji, Shikamaru, Ino, Kiba, Sasuke (Fireball technique), Neji, etc were ALL taught jutsu like their parents. Kakashi was given the Chakra Sabre from his father. It's NOT a stretch at all to assume that Naruto would have been taught some fairly advanced ninjutsu. Hell, his dad has access to scrolls that would have been very helpful in training.

Have you ever noticed that people that Kage teach/are related to tend to be strong?

Oonoki-taught by Muu. Deidara was taught by Oonoki. Hashirama was Tobirama's brother. Tobirama and Hashirama taught Hiruzen. Hiruzen taught the guy who taught the Fourth. The Fourth taught Kakashi and Obito (one of the two main baddies in this war). The Third Raikage was related to A. These connections are here for REASONS. Tsunade was taught by the Third, so was Orochimaru. Gaara was the son of the Fourth Kazekage.

And you guys mean to tell me that Naruto would not have picked up ANYTHING? Hell, some of those people even lived to "old age" (which can be a loose term in the Narutoverse, considering these guys risk their lives on missions daily) such as Oonoki, Tsunade, Orochimaru, Jiraiya and Hiruzen. In order for these guys to live past a more reasonable Shinobi lifespan, they'd be pretty skilled.

NONE of them have the Kyuubi.

Naruto would likely be smarter too, because his dumbassness came from his childishness, which stemmed from wanting attention.



No Kyuubi=people acknowledge him. No need to be a fool. You guys all act like he's a fool, yet he masters Multiple Shadow Clone jutsu in an hour (A-rank technique?) and Rasengan in a week (A-rank technique), Summoning (which, might I add, only ninja's more than fodder really have) in PART I when he's an actual Genin and not just ranked like that.

He also learn Sage Mode in a short time. The time-span between Nagato killing Jiraiya and the Invasion of Konoha wasn't long at all.
 
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