Naruto's speed vs Sasuke's eyes.

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As obvious it should be right now that Naruto > Sasuke, I've seen lots of people saying Sasuke is greater than Naruto right now. The craziest of claims being that Naruto's speed counts for nothing because Sasuke has the sharingan.

I'd just like to remind them of this

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I'd like to point out the fact is not if he can see it or not, like several people seem to think it is. The point is in the bottom panel.

Thanks for reading.
 
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I cant believe. He was able to say all that while in the air for avsplit second.
 

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The only reason people are saying that is out of speculation. Because we haven't seen sasukes new eyes full potential.
 

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I cant believe. He was able to say all that while in the air for avsplit second.

lol at this

people do need to realize that it takes about half a second to get resolution and your vision when trying to keep track of a moving target
 

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The only reason people are saying that is out of speculation. Because we haven't seen sasukes new eyes full potential.

Even if he has better perception with the EMS that would still apply, unless you're saying his EMS makes him faster?

I cant believe. He was able to say all that while in the air for avsplit second.

Magic ninjas are fighting a world shaping demon right now in the manga, but talking fast is outlandish! XD
 

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I cant believe. He was able to say all that while in the air for avsplit second.

I cant believe it's not butter

OT:I agree to an extent
 

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Even if he has better perception with the EMS that would still apply, unless you're saying his EMS makes him faster?



Magic ninjas are fighting a world shaping demon right now in the manga, but talking fast is outlandish! XD

Well if you recall in his fight with the raikage he used ameratsu to defend against crazy speed. With EMS, we can only guess that his control will be even better. No to mention his susanoo

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lol at this

people do need to realize that it takes about half a second to get resolution and your vision when trying to keep track of a moving target

wouldn't this also apply to naruto how can he see targets while moving so fast? plus he has no eye ability's.
 

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Basing it on whether the sharingan can see it or not is idiocy... Also it isn't important. Naruto cannot land a hit on Sasuke with Susanoo or Blaze release armor anyway.

While Naruto does indeed posses greater and better ninjutsu, as well as protection against genjutsu, Sasuke is much smarter. His ability to find the opponents weakness, and knowing when to make the deciding strike is immense and levels Itachi's easily.

Sasuke also posses greater diversity in ninjutsu, where Naruto only posses a few. Just assuming Naruto would win is pathetic. This is Naruto, and such a battle can go anyway - even when it's out beloved main character, who uses to win due to the plot.
 

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Well if you recall in his fight with the raikage he used ameratsu to defend against crazy speed. With EMS, we can only guess that his control will be even better. No to mention his susanoo

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Naruto was also faster than Ay in just Kyubi Mode, BM is much more, and surely you aren't comparing a karate chop from AY, to anything BM Naruto can do?

Basing it on whether the sharingan can see it or not is idiocy... Also it isn't important. Naruto cannot land a hit on Sasuke with Susanoo or Blaze release armor anyway.

While Naruto does indeed posses greater and better ninjutsu, as well as protection against genjutsu, Sasuke is much smarter. His ability to find the opponents weakness, and knowing when to make the deciding strike is immense and levels Itachi's easily.

Sasuke also posses greater diversity in ninjutsu, where Naruto only posses a few. Just assuming Naruto would win is pathetic. This is Naruto, and such a battle can go anyway - even when it's out beloved main character, who uses to win due to the plot.

You misunderstand, I'm assuming he can see him, I''m saying he will not have time to react.

As for your last statement that Sasuke has more ninjutsu, I'd like to counter that with your own statement.

While Naruto does indeed posses greater and better ninjutsu

Quality > Quantity.

Lastly of course if Naruto wins, it'll be do to being the main character, and not due to being greater than Sasuke. /sarcasm
 
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Yeah Sasuke was always quick post time skip, but I don't think there is ANY possible way Sasuke could even see naruto if Naruto would actually use his speed. Madara would have no chance either. Naruto is currently more powerful than madara but the plot doesn't allow for this. We saw naruto's new speed, yet naruto decides to only attack madara ONCE and a head on attack at that to his fan. Derp.
 
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wouldn't this also apply to naruto how can he see targets while moving so fast? plus he has no eye ability's.

No... due to abberation of light... although in a fraction of a second after you recieve stimuli you See - hear -feel(temp)-smell-Feel(pain) in that particular order...
 

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Naruto was also faster than Ay in just Kyubi Mode, BM is much more, and surely you aren't comparing a karate chop from AY, to anything BM Naruto can do?

I compared the similar speed and the methods of defense against it.
 

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He saw Naruto's movements, when he upgraded to the third tomoe, and could sense Ay's attack with Mangekyou Sharingan. Now that he has unlimited I pretty sure he could sense Naruto's movement and it doesn't even matter. He can use Amterasu as a shield so no matter how fast he is. Naruto will still get caught by it if he makes contact with it.
 

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He saw Naruto's movements, when he upgraded to the third tomoe, and could sense Ay's attack with Mangekyou Sharingan. Now that he has unlimited I pretty sure he could sense Naruto's movement and it doesn't even matter. He can use Amterasu as a shield so no matter how fast he is. Naruto will still get caught by it if he makes contact with it.

The fact that he can, or can not see it is not the point I mean to make. It is regardless of whether he can see it or not, he won't be fast enough to do anything about it.

As for the scan you are posting, base Naruto is slower than base Lee, and 3t is also greater than the 2t he used vs Lee. It should be obvious that Sasuke could keep track of Naruto in that page, Idk what posting that page attempted to prove.
 
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No... due to abberation of light... although in a fraction of a second after you recieve stimuli you See - hear -feel(temp)-smell-Feel(pain) in that particular order...

i think aberration of light only applies to objects light years away. perception vs speed of light
 

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The fact that he can, or can not see it is not the point I mean to make. It is regardless of whether he can see it or not, he won't be fast enough to do anything about it.

The fact that naruto can or cannot physically strike sasuke is not the point we mean to make. It is the fact he will be hit by ameratsu and or susanoo if he does make contact.
 

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Sasuke was pretty much able to counter raikages body flicker I don't see him having any trouble reacting to narutos speed
 

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The fact that naruto can or cannot physically strike sasuke is not the point we mean to make. It is the fact he will be hit by ameratsu and or susanoo if he does make contact.

Chakra arms, and Amaterasu will not matter. He could just use his arms under it.

Sasuke was pretty much able to counter raikages body flicker I don't see him having any trouble reacting to narutos speed

Ay > KM > BM

It seems you're suggesting EMS makes you faster?
 

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Sasuke did seem to keep up with the Raikage without using his eyes, as shown with his use of Amaterasu. Although i do agree that Sasuke can not keep up with Naruto using his eyes alone, Naruto is to fast.

people do need to realize that it takes about half a second to get resolution and your vision when trying to keep track of a moving target

That would be a normal person with no Sharingan, no one knows with a Sharingan, obviously.
 
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