Naruto's Speed is nothing for Sasuke

[Johndoesknowall]

-PS is larger and heavier than leg Susanoo so there's nothing saying it can even jump any large distance.

-How is it solo when Sasuke was only alive because Suigetsu diverted Bee's blast?

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. Sasuke got soloed 2x before that:

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, needed to be saved

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-Naruto's speed was too much for Kakashi and Obito's sharingan

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-Naruto can use clones which increase the amount of chakra arms along with where the chakra arms will be coming from

-Bee was going easy before that, Sasuke said he could see Bee's linear movements then had Karin track Bee which he wouldn't be able to if his sharingan was enough. Sharingan wasn't enough to stop Bee from impaling him

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or get his chest blown off

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We don't have to proof of PS but we do have proof of complete standing susanoo doing it.

It' doesn't matter who helped Sasuke when he was hurt. Sasuke's attack soloed Bee.

I didn't see where it said it was to much for Obito. Also it goes back to my point of over time the sharingan will be improve to be able to read and follow.

Yes Sasuke did take some damage but in the end Sasuke wasn't the one who ran and hid at the end.

Also I never said sharingan would be enough to beat anyone. I just stated that it wouldn't loose to speed. Sasuke could have seen every move from Bee but at that moment but did not have the right moves to counter or attack.

 

[Avinash012]

Didn't read ,I don't think speed'll help him offensively against Sasuke but it plays a huge role in case of defence .

 

[BenjerminGaye]

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See the cut cross section from susanoo here? It can cut a group of 5 kuramas, Forget about chakra arms.


That's all sad plot inconveniences for sasuke. He could just shot one amaterasu and solo as well

You're not getting my point. The 14 clones will be in different places. That's like trying to kill bees with a sword.

 

[AlphaScythian]

-PS is larger and heavier than leg Susanoo so there's nothing saying it can even jump any large distance.

You left out stronger as well. So PS can jumps the same just fine, dont BS.

-Naruto's speed was too much for Kakashi and Obito's sharingan

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It doesnt seems like it was too much for obito's sharingan. Unlike kakashi obito seems to have good idea of what happened.

-Naruto can use clones which increase the amount of chakra arms along with where the chakra arms will be coming from

Clones are known to be weaker then original X fold. Naruto never made chakra arms big enough to take on PS even if he can the arms alone dont have enough power w/o body to back it up.

You're not getting my point. The 14 clones will be in different places. That's like trying to kill bees with a sword.

That would imply clones(so see above^) as otherwise origin of chakra arms is always in one direction, given the small reach in comparison to PS it will hardly create effect of all directions.
Plz link me the scan of biggest chakra arm yet to see if it has a chance on PS. But you know one can also spin with sword

 

[Johndoesknowall]

You're not getting my point. The 14 clones will be in different places. That's like trying to kill bees with a sword.

He'll just create more arms and swords and cut them aswell then

 

[juzumaki]

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naruto's speed.:Omg:

 

[Avinash012]

He'll just create more arms and swords and cut them aswell then

Justify ur statement with legit proof.

 

[j1388686]

Sasuke can sustain Susanoo or even PS only as long as he pours chakra into maintaining it right? So if Naruto goes back a distance and keeps firing TBB at him, that will deplete Sasukes PS and if Sasuke tries to attack Naruto, he can just strafe him. You act like Sasuke can sustain Susanoo forever, unlimited chakra etc. I don't think so.

 

[xxSAGExx]

When I say sharingan that implies that it has a user aswell. The eye ball can't do crap unless it's attached to someone using it. Also sasuke wasn't trying to fight him in hand to hand combat due to being in pain from using susanoo, that's why he couldn't react in hand to hand combat, so instead he uses amaterasu/kagetsuchi to counter.

Also sasuke can have amaterasu float over susanoo and doesn't even have to be touching it using kagetsuchi. But like you said it will be a good fight.




He has the reaction time due to amaterasu and kagetsuchi and the defense to tank those other naruto's with susanoo.

I thought about that too but couldn't Naruto have his clones use chakra arms to punch Susanoo. This would make the fist of the chakra arms catch on fire which hits Susanoo and spread on Sasunoo. Sasuke would have to keep putting the flame out which can be used to distract Sasuke enough for him to turn it off completely haha. It's a possibility at most tho since Naruto would actually think to do that and Sasuke on needing to be able to actually float enton over all of his Susnoo cause he only shown to flow some and cover the ribs by putting it on it.

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See the cut cross section from susanoo here? It can cut a group of 5 kuramas, Forget about chakra arms.


That's all sad plot inconveniences for sasuke. He could just shot one amaterasu and solo as well

You do know Sasuke's Susanoo's power was increased more than 7x the power right? When Kakashi first got Kurama's chakra it increased his power at least 3x, at least meaning it can be more

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. Then Kakashi said how the chakra was a lot more and stronger than before so 4x-6x (going by 3's) since it's a higher amount of chakra given, then when Naruto and Minato combined Yin-Yang Kurama chakra Choji said it was bigger and stronger than before

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so the power boost was about 7x-10x+ and Sasuke was using that power when he cut that branch, it increases the jutsu's power

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[Johndoesknowall]

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naruto's speed.:Omg:

The only one with sharingan who's shocked is Kakashi and he's not even suppose to have it. XD

Obito and Madara got that.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

You left out stronger as well. So PS can jumps the same just fine, dont BS.It doesnt seems like it was too much for obito's sharingan. Unlike kakashi obito seems to have good idea of what happened.
Clones are known to be weaker then original X fold. Naruto never made chakra arms big enough to take on PS even if he can the arms alone dont have enough power w/o body to back it up.


That would imply clones(so see above^) as otherwise origin of chakra arms is always in one direction, given the small reach in comparison to PS it will hardly create effect of all directions.
Plz link me the scan of biggest chakra arm yet to see if it has a chance on PS. But you know one can also spin with sword

The 14 clones naruto made solo'd the war. So them making frs isn't even a question.
I can't give u scans cuz I'm on my phone the the biggest he made would be about the size of gamaichi. Which is roughly the same size as sauce's legged susanno. So it should overwhelm him nicely. As for spinning. I think that was only done in conjunction with kurama.

 

[xxSAGExx]

You left out stronger as well. So PS can jumps the same just fine, dont BS.It doesnt seems like it was too much for obito's sharingan. Unlike kakashi obito seems to have good idea of what happened.
Clones are known to be weaker then original X fold. Naruto never made chakra arms big enough to take on PS even if he can the arms alone dont have enough power w/o body to back it up.


That would imply clones(so see above^) as otherwise origin of chakra arms is always in one direction, given the small reach in comparison to PS it will hardly create effect of all directions.
Plz link me the scan of biggest chakra arm yet to see if it has a chance on PS. But you know one can also spin with sword

There wasn't a need to say stronger, that's a given. How does being stronger going to change the fact that It got heavier? The add weight would still hold it down, it is armor afterall or are you telling me a person weighting 140lb can't jump higher than that same person who gains weight of 230lb? PS is far larger and heavier than leg Susanoo. Of course the added weight adds power, but takes away from speed and mobility.

He can use Full BM size chakra arms

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. Sasuke would need to see where the clones are, he was having trouble keeping up with 1 faster person but if Naruto's clones all move at the speed at V1 A as he shown to be able to easier than he can at full speed then they can move around the field and trying to keep track of them all would be hard.

Also cutting the chakra arms would work but not if the chakra arms catches the sword

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[Johndoesknowall]

Justify ur statement with legit proof.

Proof of making new arms

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Proof of weapons: Arrows or sword,

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Sasuke can sustain Susanoo or even PS only as long as he pours chakra into maintaining it right? So if Naruto goes back a distance and keeps firing TBB at him, that will deplete Sasukes PS and if Sasuke tries to attack Naruto, he can just strafe him. You act like Sasuke can sustain Susanoo forever, unlimited chakra etc. I don't think so.

Naruto has to take a little time to prepare a tbb that would affect his susanoo. In that time sasuke could just amaterasu him.

I thought about that too but couldn't Naruto have his clones use chakra arms to punch Susanoo. This would make the fist of the chakra arms catch on fire which hits Susanoo and spread on Sasunoo. Sasuke would have to keep putting the flame out which can be used to distract Sasuke enough for him to turn it off completely haha. It's a possibility at most tho since Naruto would actually think to do that and Sasuke on needing to be able to actually float enton over all of his Susnoo cause he only shown to flow some and cover the ribs by putting it on it.



You do know Sasuke's Susanoo's power was increased more than 7x the power right? When Kakashi first got Kurama's chakra it increased his power at least 3x, at least meaning it can be more

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. Then Kakashi said how the chakra was a lot more and stronger than before so 4x-6x (going by 3's) since it's a higher amount of chakra given, then when Naruto and Minato combined Yin-Yang Kurama chakra Choji said it was bigger and stronger than before

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so the power boost was about 7x-10x+ and Sasuke was using that power when he cut that branch, it increases the jutsu's power

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Not really since Sasuke can manipulate the amaterasu on his susanoo into his susanoo hand and reuse it. He would just manipulate the amaterasu and wouldn't have to put it out. Also a hand strong enough to counter susanoo will have to be strong and naruto would use up alot of chakra summoning them to be that strong. You were right there are alot of counters each could use, so basically we'll have to see the fight and what will happen.

Sasuke can also summon susanoo beside him and use it to shoot multiple amaterasu's with the orb and the other two arms can shoot arrows while sasuke shoots amaterasu himself. (Theory though)

 

[Seventh Sama]

This thread is disguised as a "Sasuke>Naruto" thread.huh? :|

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Naruto still blitzs sausage.

 

[MickNerks]

Sasuke's EYE's Cant keep up with Naruto in SM, KM, or BM.

Naruto is extremely fast, but the thing that will kill sasuke is the chakra arms or the frog fu, which the OT conveniently didn't show!!! So I will.

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With that being said, sasuke MAY be able to react to naruto's speed, but trying to also react to the Chakra Arms and/or Frog Fu will be next to impossible. =D​

 

[AlphaScythian]

You do know Sasuke's Susanoo's power was increased more than 7x the power right? When Kakashi first got Kurama's chakra it increased his power at least 3x, at least meaning it can be more

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. Then Kakashi said how the chakra was a lot more and stronger than before so 4x-6x (going by 3's) since it's a higher amount of chakra given, then when Naruto and Minato combined Yin-Yang Kurama chakra Choji said it was bigger and stronger than before

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so the power boost was about 7x-10x+ and Sasuke was using that power when he cut that branch, it increases the jutsu's power

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Im sorry if naruto gives this same chakra to juubito, will it make him stronger 7x - 10x times or weaker? Wont it actually decrease overall power if you mix your chakra with inferior one?
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karin states that his chakra is even darker colder then CM2. Note that in viz scan it says more "intense". After getting itachi eyes he felt even more power, kurama however claimed his chakra to be more sinister then it's own since after time skip. I dont view that chakra given more then little stamina boost.

 

[Johndoesknowall]

This thread is disguised as a "Sasuke>Naruto" thread.huh? :|

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Naruto still blitzs sausage.

No, it was made to prove the Naruto's speed doesn't matter to Sasuke Sharingan.

It got off subject quite nicely though. :snick:

Sasuke's EYE's Cant keep up with Naruto in SM, KM, or BM.

Naruto is extremely fast, but the thing that will kill sasuke is the chakra arms or the frog fu, which the OT conveniently didn't show!!! So I will.

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With that being said, sasuke MAY be able to react to naruto's speed, but trying to also react to the Chakra Arms and/or Frog Fu will be next to impossible. =D​

This thread wasn't made to say sasuke was stronger overall or was going to beat Naruto but was made to prove that Naruto's speed isn't worth much to sasuke Sharingan.

Read the title

 

[EternalFlame]

Well, I wouldn't say it's "nothing" but this whole 'current Sasuke getting speed blitzed by Naruto' is fanboyism at its finest.

 

[Johndoesknowall]

Well, I wouldn't say it's "nothing" but this whole 'current Sasuke getting speed blitzed by Naruto' is fanboyism at its finest.

I'll take it.

 

[MickNerks]

This thread wasn't made to say sasuke was stronger overall or was going to beat Naruto but was made to prove that Naruto's speed isn't worth much to sasuke Sharingan.

Read the title

I wasn't interpreting it as sasuke was stronger than Naruto, I apologize if it seemed like I did. I was trying to state that even with sasuke's eye's, he still wouldn't be able to react to naruto because of chakra cloaks and the chakra manipulation of frog fu. Naruto's speed along with those abilities still give sasuke a problem.