[Theory] Naruto's Senjutsu

[Cael]

I think there is a confusion between Senjutsu in this manga.
I honestly think that there is two different kind of Senjutsu that's being referred to,but some people on the base thinks its one.

First i would like to say that I think that naruto is using two different kind of senjutsu after his talk with the sage
from reading the manga we know that each senjutsu is different.

naruto he learned the senjutsu from the frog

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Hashiram senjutsu is still unknown

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and then we have kabuto who learned his sage mode from the snakes

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But there is one more senjutsu that we are forgetting
the sage of the six path senjutsu

which I believed also gives the gudou dama has an ability

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It might be only me, but at one point I use to think that naruto was using only one type of senjutsu, but I think
that's wrong, I think he is using two.

I notice some people were saying during this naruto vs sasuke fight
" why didn't sasuke absorb naruto senjutsu chakra"

sasuke so far has experience with only the sage senjutsu power, and juugo .not naruto very own sage senjutsu
I think the sage senjutsu power is the type that turns your jutsu black.
it seems to have an black effect, like a symbol to show that it's in use.

as we can see with sasuke chidor and kakashi and even madara's lightning.

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but beside naruto gudou dama's naruto jutsu are not black, this is why I think there is a mix.

senjutsu is still a confusing topic for me, because there is different kinds, but the sole purpose of senjutsu is taking chakra from nature, so how can taking chakra from nature make one abilities varies so much.

I still don't know that much about senjutsu so if you have any new information or your thoughts on the subject please free to post it hear.

 

[BasedProphet]

no- they all came from so6p sage jutsu- the mange says it. just an underling form i suppose

 

[SSU]

I looked at it as there was senjutsu (that you learned from animals like toad sage and snake sage mode.(Hashi developed his own but with the same power/benefits)) and then there is Hagoromo's sage chakra that is strong enough to change the power of one's self (Obito being able to go to other dimensions other than his Kamui world.)

 

[3MESSIAH]

i always thought rikudo`s chakra just greatly enhanced naruto`s own senjutsu...therefore the name...rikudo senjutsu

 

[Cael]

no- they all came from so6p sage jutsu- the mange says it. just an underling form i suppose

when did the manga say this

 

[The Necromancer]

The fact that Sasuke's chidori turned black from both the Curse Mark and his So6P Senjutsu proves that they are essentially the same.

 

[General Nintendo]

I think there is only the 1 senjutsu, it's just a matter on how to obtain it really

 

[Joon]

I looked at it as there was senjutsu (that you learned from animals like toad sage and snake sage mode.(Hashi developed his own but with the same power/benefits)) and then there is Hagoromo's sage chakra that is strong enough to change the power of one's self (Obito being able to go to other dimensions other than his Kamui world.)

This one hits it right on the nail. Senjutsu (Sage Technique) are when someone such as Naruto gathers in nature energy and blend it with their own chakra. The Sage of Six Paths chakra only empowered that state thus "Six Path Sage".

 

[Mr Hiru]

I think there is a confusion between Senjutsu in this manga.
I honestly think that there is two different kind of Senjutsu that's being referred to,but some people on the base thinks its one.

First i would like to say that I think that naruto is using two different kind of senjutsu after his talk with the sage
from reading the manga we know that each senjutsu is different.

naruto he learned the senjutsu from the frog

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Hashiram senjutsu is still unknown

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and then we have kabuto who learned his sage mode from the snakes

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But there is one more senjutsu that we are forgetting
the sage of the six path senjutsu

which I believed also gives the gudou dama has an ability

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It might be only me, but at one point I use to think that naruto was using only one type of senjutsu, but I think
that's wrong, I think he is using two.

I notice some people were saying during this naruto vs sasuke fight
" why didn't sasuke absorb naruto senjutsu chakra"

sasuke so far has experience with only the sage senjutsu power, and juugo .not naruto very own sage senjutsu
I think the sage senjutsu power is the type that turns your jutsu black.
it seems to have an black effect, like a symbol to show that it's in use.

as we can see with sasuke chidor and kakashi and even madara's lightning.

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but beside naruto gudou dama's naruto jutsu are not black, this is why I think there is a mix.

senjutsu is still a confusing topic for me, because there is different kinds, but the sole purpose of senjutsu is taking chakra from nature, so how can taking chakra from nature make one abilities varies so much.

I still don't know that much about senjutsu so if you have any new information or your thoughts on the subject please free to post it hear.

Your judgement is correct.

Senjutsu is Nature Energy + Spiritual Energy + Physical Energy. When these three energies are mixed, Senjutsu chakra is produced. When high amounts of Senjutsu chakra is inside the Shinobi's body, this shinobi awakens the Sage Mode.

Rikudou power is Indra + Ashura's chakra. When these two energies are mixed, two kind of manifestations can be given birth. When the Rikudou chakra is focused in the eyes, Rinnegan is awakened. When the chakra is focused in the body, Senjutsu of Six Paths is awakened.

Senjutsu and Rikudou power are two completely different concepts, and I have proof to back this claim.

- Juubi is made from Senjutsu Chakra, Naruto felt it in his Sage Mode. So, all Ten Tails Jinchuuriki holds the power of the Juubi.

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- Rikudou Sennin has high amounts of Rikudou chakra, which came from the Shinjuu's fruit.

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- When Juubi has the fruit within, it evolves to the God Tree: Shinjuu.

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...so, as you can see, it's evident and undeniable to state as manga fact that Rikudou Chakra and Senjutsu Chakra are completely different.

Both Juubi and Rikudou powers came from the Shinjuu. But, the Fruit (sources of power of Rikudou) didn't have Nature Energy. It only contained "chakra".

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Therefore, your conception of 'two kinds of senjutsu' is half correct. Rikudou chakra is not made of senjutsu. That is only a way to refer to Rikudou powers, it enables the user to absorb Nature energy with more ease, but it would not be possible for users who don't have the correct body for this purpose.

Naruto and Jirayia had it (Naruto more than Jirayia).

Madara had it because he had Hashirama's cells.
Obito had Zetsu's cells (and Obito had a lot of difficulties to completely control the Juubi... Naturally, since Zetsu is a lesser version of Hashirama's DNA, in a sense).

Without these, they wouldn't be able to become perfect Jinchuuriki... Naturally, because this was a power was meant to be inherited to Ashura's succesors.

 

[The Necromancer]

This one hits it right on the nail. Senjutsu (Sage Technique) are when someone such as Naruto gathers in nature energy and blend it with their own chakra. The Sage of Six Paths chakra only empowered that state thus "Six Path Sage".

Except that Sasuke uses it too.

 

[Joon]

Except that Sasuke uses it too.

Yes, Sasuke posses the other half of the Sage of Six Paths chakra which allowed him to awaken Rinnegan. However, he does know how to gather in nature energy to enter Sage Mode thus he cannot eanter Six Paths Sage Mode.

 

[The Necromancer]

Yes, Sasuke posses the other half of the Sage of Six Paths chakra which allowed him to awaken Rinnegan. However, he does know how to gather in nature energy to enter Sage Mode thus he cannot eanter Six Paths Sage Mode.

Ok, I get what you were saying now. You made it sound at first like only Naruto had Hagoromo's Senjutsu chakra.

 

[Oddity]

No,senjustu is natural energy.
All senjustu is the same the only difference is in its execution.

The Goudama is a power that can be traced back to the shinju.
All the powers of a god were passed down
Shinju >Fruit > Kaguya > Sage

 

[Honord Sage]

I think there is a confusion between Senjutsu in this manga.
I honestly think that there is two different kind of Senjutsu that's being referred to,but some people on the base thinks its one.

First i would like to say that I think that naruto is using two different kind of senjutsu after his talk with the sage
from reading the manga we know that each senjutsu is different.

naruto he learned the senjutsu from the frog

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Hashiram senjutsu is still unknown

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and then we have kabuto who learned his sage mode from the snakes

Spoiler

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But there is one more senjutsu that we are forgetting
the sage of the six path senjutsu

which I believed also gives the gudou dama has an ability

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

It might be only me, but at one point I use to think that naruto was using only one type of senjutsu, but I think
that's wrong, I think he is using two.

I notice some people were saying during this naruto vs sasuke fight
" why didn't sasuke absorb naruto senjutsu chakra"

sasuke so far has experience with only the sage senjutsu power, and juugo .not naruto very own sage senjutsu
I think the sage senjutsu power is the type that turns your jutsu black.
it seems to have an black effect, like a symbol to show that it's in use.

as we can see with sasuke chidor and kakashi and even madara's lightning.

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

but beside naruto gudou dama's naruto jutsu are not black, this is why I think there is a mix.

senjutsu is still a confusing topic for me, because there is different kinds, but the sole purpose of senjutsu is taking chakra from nature, so how can taking chakra from nature make one abilities varies so much.

I still don't know that much about senjutsu so if you have any new information or your thoughts on the subject please free to post it hear.

Natural Energy is Natural Energy its the same,what is different is how you gather it and how you uses it.