Naruto's second chakra nature theory (Pre RSM)

[The Demon Hawk]

Naruto = Sasuke
Hashirama = Madara Both had 2 or more natures.
are you saying because Kishi Made Naruto go to war after Pain, he never had potential to learn another nature like most Jonin?

Just because Naruto = Sasuke doesn't mean everything about them should be equal. I'm not disregarding the possibility, in fact, I believed and wanted Naruto to get Suiton since it perfectly contrasts with Sasuke's nature types. And it's not out of question being Jounin level, but it's also not neccessary. But the logic you're using to prove its existence i.e. Naruto = Sasuke is ridiculous, that's what I'm saying. Just because they are equal doesn't mean each and everything should contrast with each other.

 

[Chaosmark101]

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All that wasn't possible before RSM now was it?

Just because Naruto = Sasuke doesn't mean everything about them should be equal. I'm not disregarding the possibility, in fact, I believed and wanted Naruto to get Suiton since it perfectly contrasts with Sasuke's nature types. And it's not out of question being Jounin level, but it's also not neccessary. But the logic you're using to prove its existence i.e. Naruto = Sasuke is ridiculous, that's what I'm saying. Just because they are equal doesn't mean each and everything should contrast with each other.

That's not the only reason. I'm assuming you've read the thread right? my reasoning is that Kushina had Suiton. Hashirama had suiton probably from Ashura.

Put 2 & 2 together & you get suiton.
This is just a theory after all.

 

[BSK]

All that wasn't possible before RSM now was it?

He only has one affinity.I dont understand why naruto fanboys gives naruto skills he doesn't have.

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[King of the Heavens]

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check this he has all the nature types you fools

 

[The Demon Hawk]

No need to be such a d*ck when Indra's proving a point to a guy denying Manga facts & Kishi's words. Which you shouldn't be butting in to.

The guy isn't denying any manga facts if talking Pre RSM, alright. Oh, and I didn't expect you to be stupid enough to say I shouldn't be butting into an argument on a forum which BTW is a medium of discussion and argument.

I'm guessing you wouldn't if you took the time to actually read the dailogue between two posters instead of jumping into conclusion thinking that a person would talk about more chakra natures in a Pre-RSM Naruto thread. No worries, mate.

I read the dialogue. Nothing implies you were talking about overall Naruto, since the possibility of delusion and one being misconceived about the other still existed. I was trying to clear the misconception if it existed. But instead you decided to jump to conclusions and established senselessly that I was jumping to conclusions...

 

[lndra]

I read the dialogue. Nothing implies you were talking about overall Naruto, since the possibility of delusion and one being misconceived about the other still existed. I was trying to clear the misconception if it existed. But instead you decided to jump to conclusions and established senselessly that I was jumping to conclusions...

>Naruto has one chakra nature until proven otherwise
>I assure him that future Naruto has four, just encase he didn't know
>Denies
>Tells him to look in the databook

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Present.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

That's not the only reason. I'm assuming you've read the thread right? my reasoning is that Kushina had Suiton. Hashirama had suiton probably from Ashura.

Put 2 & 2 together & you get suiton.
This is just a theory after all.

I read the thread right, understood and agree with you. I'm just saying that equality factor doesn't seem to fit here. Hashirama has Suiton being a Senju BTW which is even more reason I believed Naruto could get Suiton.

 

[kaithefly]

doesn't matter, naruto has access to all 5 elements now thanks to rikudou chakra

 

[tasuxeda]

Even if Naruto didn't get RSM, he would have still mastered all five elements in no time at all, as he could just use the shadow clone training method to master the other elements.

 

[Chaosmark101]

The guy isn't denying any manga facts if talking Pre RSM, alright. Oh, and I didn't expect you to be stupid enough to say I shouldn't be butting into an argument on a forum which BTW is a medium of discussion and argument.

Yeah that was kind of hypocritical, & pretty dumb given the nature of forums. I should probably not have butted in myself so I apologize.

He only has one affinity.I dont understand why naruto fanboys gives naruto skills he doesn't have.

But he does have them. His TSB are proof that he does as they are made up of all the elements as Hiruzen & BZ stated.

Also Smh dude don't you know everyone in NV has only 1 Affinity. They can learn an additional one with training. Like Hiruzen, Kakashi, Jiraiya, Itachi etc

I read the thread right, understood and agree with you. I'm just saying that equality factor doesn't seem to fit here. Hashirama has Suiton being a Senju BTW which is even more reason I believed Naruto could get Suiton.

Thought it did. But if nothing more Naruto couldn't have had Raiton or Katon since his opposite had them so they needed to be eliminated. It just made sense to me when crafting the thread to include that tidbit

 

[The Demon Hawk]

>Naruto has one chakra nature until proven otherwise
>I assure him that future Naruto has four, just encase he didn't know
>Denies
>Tells him to look in the databook

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Present.

@bold That's where your argument gets ambiguous. What implies that you were talking about future Naruto when not everyone on the base is so grammatically conscious? Or are you going to deny there existed a possibility that the guy was talking about Naruto's naturally gained chakra natures and not the ones granted from RSM as the OP was talking about? Or was it clear which version of Naruto was being discussed since the thread said Pre RSM and there was no clear cut evidence of overall Naruto being discussed? Or is it impossible that he even misconceived you even after you told him Naruto presently has four just because which form you were talking about wasn't clear?

 

[kaithefly]

naruto had an affinity to wind element, that was the only element he used, he has access to all 5 now thanks to rikudou chakra

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Yeah that was kind of hypocritical, & pretty dumb given the nature of forums. I should probably not have butted in myself so I apologize.

No problem bro. All good.

Thought it did. But if nothing more Naruto couldn't have had Raiton or Katon since his opposite had them so they needed to be eliminated. It just made sense to me when crafting the thread to include that tidbit

A different kind of equality. Let me give an idea about it. I've already put a lot of thought into this so your thread wasn't anything new but an image of my previous thoughts. If Naruto had Fuuton and Suiton and Sasuke had Katon and Raiton then it makes equality more pronounced (Not the Naruto = Sasuke equality, but the congruence in jutsus equality). And honestly, Naruto having Suiton would not just pronounce equality but make much more sense. In that case, their battle would depend on how smartly each used what they had because that would be a perfect counter to each other jutsus while simultaneously being weak against the other. But instead, Kishi neglected the ninjutsu stuff only giving them both mere brute force and gigantic creatures for the battle. And spammed all of natures by granting RSM and Rinnegan which made all of this interesting stuff void. And you already know how that parallelism occurs.

Naruto and Sasuke's individual jutsu superiority and inferiority against one another:
Fire > WIND > Lightning (Naruto)
Wind > LIGHTNING > Water (Sasuke)
Lightning > WATER > Fire (Naruto)
Water > FIRE > Wind (Sasuke)

So the cycle becomes, Fire > Wind > Lightning > Water > Fire, so they both have a nature which is weak against one of the other's chakra natures and simultaneously stronger than the other one. So they have a counter, strong jutsu and a weak jutsu against each other. That takes jutsu parallelism to a new level. Plus, Lightning and Water would also make a great coordination attack just like Fire and Wind.

 

[sealingscroll]

good read. but yes i agree as well like my thread.