Naruto's Progression and Overall Character Development

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Twisted007

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Naruto has grown power wise but his mentality is pretty much the same. He is what people would call 'a typical shounen main character'. I hope that he does something that nobody expects before this show ends.
 

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this manga about future, not about friendship like many think
Why?
Because I think he's still very immature and ignorant?
kishi opinion about naruto mature better than you... even kakashi called naruto very mature
 

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Where is Sasuke even coming from...? Sasuke is on another level of maturity than Naruto.

You clearly do not know what you're talking about. Sasuke has seen both sides of the coin. He knows what if feels like to be a criminal, and he knows the wrongdoings of the Hokage. Sasuke has nothing to do with this discussion.

Oh please Sasuke just does whatever the last guy who TNJ him wants him to do, he is a toy for people to play with.
 

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this manga about future, not about friendship like many think
kishi opinion about naruto mature better than you... even kakashi called naruto very mature

Ok?
Well, I highly disagree with Kakashi in that regard.
He's still very immature, ignorant and very child-like. That's what I've seen in this Manga so far.
 

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Where is Sasuke even coming from...? Sasuke is on another level of maturity than Naruto.

You clearly do not know what you're talking about. Sasuke has seen both sides of the coin. He knows what if feels like to be a criminal, and he knows the wrongdoings of the Hokage. Sasuke has nothing to do with this discussion.
  1. naruto know both sides of the coin too
  2. naruto know sasuke situation too
  3. i mean sasuke target no change since begin... burn. and only burn without planing
 

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  1. sage mode,rasenshuriken e.t.c.

  1. Work for few days/weeks and get powers 99% of the Narutoverse can't get. He has like 1 tech in fuuton yet many would consider him a better fuuton user than Temari, who actually worked and progressed in that area for years.

    [*]no one in narutoverse cares about prophecy
    It is about his character. Jiraiya looked for that kid for years. When Naruto was going to train with toads; Tsunade said "child of prophecy; eh?". "The choosen one" concept is overall something shits on underdog theme. not to mention his "i am the son of the 4th hokage" thing.
    [*]you understand tnj circumastances
    Okay. What?
    [*]all have stolen ideals
    Not all of them; Hashirama built his own ideals; and he is a single examle. Naruto is main character; he can look up to others but he should not follow idealogies just because his daddy thinks so.
 

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Ok?
Well, I highly disagree with Kakashi in that regard.
He's still very immature, ignorant and very child-like. That's what I've seen in this Manga so far.
ok. your opinion better than kishi... i see immature only in sasuke situation
 

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Work for few days/weeks and get powers 99% of the Narutoverse can't get. He has like 1 tech in fuuton yet many wuld consider him a better fuuton user than Temari, who actually worked and progressed in that are for years.


It is about his character. Jiraiya looked for that kid for years. When Naruto was going to train with toads; Tsunade said "child of prophecy; eh?". "The choosen one" concept is overall something shits on underdog theme. not to mentin his "i am the son of the 4th hokage" thing.

Okay. What?

Not all of them; Hashirama built his own ideals; and he is a single examle. Naruto is main character; he can look up to others but he should not follow idealogies just becaue his daddy thinks so.

If he was following Jiraya's ideology he would have killed Nagato, remember that Jiraya and the village wanted him dead, Naruto made a different call.

Edit: Which turned out to be the right call as it saved the village.

And if he was following Minato's ideology he would have not befriended the Tailed Beasts, Minato sealed him away because he saw him as a threat, but Naruto intends to release them.

Hashirama even viewed the Tailed Beasts as monsters, "Your power is to great for me to allow you to be free."
 

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ok. your opinion better than kishi... i see immature only in sasuke situation

Thank you.
Naruto's still very immature and ignorant.

P.S. What does Sasuke have to do with this discussion?
 

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Work for few days/weeks and get powers 99% of the Narutoverse can't get. He has like 1 tech in fuuton yet many would consider him a better fuuton user than Temari, who actually worked and progressed in that area for years.


It is about his character. Jiraiya looked for that kid for years. When Naruto was going to train with toads; Tsunade said "child of prophecy; eh?". "The choosen one" concept is overall something shits on underdog theme. not to mention his "i am the son of the 4th hokage" thing.

Okay. What?

Not all of them; Hashirama built his own ideals; and he is a single examle. Naruto is main character; he can look up to others but he should not follow idealogies just because his daddy thinks so.
  1. fuuton is very rare element and have little number of tech than any other also rasenshuriken best fuuton jutsu in narutoverse
  2. naruto working for child of prophecy... only naruto decision made him child of prophecy
  3. naruto said truth about his family
  4. please dont use childish argument about main character
 

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  1. naruto know both sides of the coin too
  2. naruto know sasuke situation too
  3. i mean sasuke target no change since begin... burn. and only burn without planing

No, Naruto was never on the "other" side. Naruto does not know what if feels like to live in darkness.
Naruto may know of Sasuke's situation, but that does not mean he has experienced it for himself.
I still do not see how Sasuke is relevant to Naruto's development discussion. Sasuke has been through more emotional trauma, their situations are different.
 

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Thank you.
Naruto's still very immature and ignorant.

P.S. What does Sasuke have to do with this discussion?
i mean naruto show his immature side only in sasuke situation
 

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i mean naruto show his immature side only in sasuke situation

Well, that's not true.
He's shown his immaturity throughout the Manga.
He still doesn't fully have a grasp on the harsh realities of the current Shinobi world they live in and his ignorance and immaturity shines through on a lot of occasions.
He's grown in power, but that's really about it in my eyes.
 

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No, Naruto was never on the "other" side. Naruto does not know what if feels like to live in darkness.
Naruto may know of Sasuke's situation, but that does not mean he has experienced it for himself.
I still do not see how Sasuke is relevant to Naruto's development discussion. Sasuke has been through more emotional trauma, their situations are different.
  1. wrong.
  2. naruto have experience like sasuke
  3. sasuke made many emotional trauma himself
Well, that's not true.
He's shown his immaturity throughout the Manga.
He still doesn't fully have a grasp on the harsh realities of the current Shinobi world they live in and his ignorance and immaturity shines through on a lot of occasions.
He's grown in power, but that's really about it in my eyes.
naruto know current shinobi world problems even in part one... you blind if you not see this
 

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If Naruto is so immarture and not ready to be a leader, why does everyone follow him in the manga, Nagato and Konan died for him, Kakashi even respects Naruto's ideals.
 

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  1. wrong.
  2. naruto have experience like sasuke
  3. sasuke made many emotional trauma himself
naruto know current shinobi world problems even in part one... you blind if you not see this

Okay, whatever you say. :|
 

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  1. wrong.
  2. naruto have experience like sasuke
  3. sasuke made many emotional trauma himself
naruto know current shinobi world problems even in part one... you blind if you not see this

No. He's heard of the problems, but he doesn't know of how big the problems are.

His ignorant 'peace for all' thing is all well and good, but it's immature and ignorant.
 

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If Naruto is so immarture and not ready to be a leader, why does everyone follow him in the manga, Nagato and Konan died for him, Kakashi even respects Naruto's ideals.

Because the Manga's called NARUTO.
 

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really? you forget about evil naruto side ?
 
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