[Discussion] Naruto's Power

[take it easy]

Sasuke fans keep telling that to themselves through the topics so they can sleep at night. It took Rinnegan and all of Bijuu's chakra to make Naruto serious. They all realize it but choose to ignore it intentionally.

Pretty much this.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

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I agree with you somewhat on what you said at first but the bold that's where you lost me bro Lol

Oh so Sasuke was so scarred of Low chakra Naruto that he kept trying to get him to go all out?

Sasuke fans keep telling that to themselves through the topics so they can sleep at night. It took Rinnegan and all of Bijuu's chakra to make Naruto serious. They all realize it but choose to ignore it intentionally.

Naruto got more seroius because Sasuke became even more powerful,he became more of a thread + the Bijuu were in danger.Do not ignore logic.Naruto was running out of chakra whether Sasuke got the Bijuus or not - Sasuke on the other hand knew Naruto was running out and he was antagonizing Naruto on becoming more seroius.

Sasuke was not going all out before he got the Bijuus,if he was then he wouldn't be stopping to talk to Naruto,telling him to step up,now with him having the Bijuus chakra,he is more of a threat so Naruto is more likely to go all out.

I always wonder why they operate in a hive mind mentality. It's like when 1 appears, 2-5 appear later congratulating the other and saying "only tards will disagree with x response". This is mainly the reason why I ignore them and consider them trolls. Been nice if they used photoshop scans or something humorous to entertain me and everyone more, instead of attempting to spark flame wars over something frivolous... Zzz

Volk,you are now getting really desperate.So there being multiple Sasuke fans around means they're alts.And by Photoshop scans do, you mean mines? all i did was crop specific panels to what im referring,and apparently pionting out facts you don't like equals attempts at trying to make flame wars?

Do you say anything to people like Minator93? Probably not cause they're downplaying Sasuke but when someone post facts that don't make Naruto look good you assume it's trolling rather than simply talking about the story.

Sharingan cant see sage chakra.....

I won't say he took bijus power to match sauce ....sauce is power hungry guy

Naruto will show his true power soon enuf

Okay,Sasuke was lying to Naruto when he said he didn't have enough chakra for another Bijuudama,and the Kyuubi was just acting like he was gathering chakra for Naruto.

 

[Romy9]

Naruto got more seroius because Sasuke became even more powerful,he became more of a thread + the Bijuu were in danger.Do not ignore logic.Naruto was running out of chakra whether Sasuke got the Bijuus or not - Sasuke on the other hand knew Naruto was running out and he was antagonizing Naruto on becoming more seroius.

Sasuke was not going all out before he got the Bijuus,if he was then he wouldn't be stopping to talk to Naruto,telling him to step up,now with him having the Bijuus chakra,he is more of a threat so Naruto is more likely to go all out.

Logic? You said what I said with different words. Naruto became serious after Sasuke started using Bijuu's powers.

He was on offensive, which means he was trying to deal damage. Naruto was on defensive, which means he didn't want to fight. Sasuke told him to step it up because he knew Naruto wasn't serious. Logically, if he didn't want to fight him. It's actually very simple yet complicated for Sasuke fans.

 

[QdonEms]

They were equal before....now sasuke shits.

 

[Romy9]

They were equal before....now sasuke shits.

This is what we're talking about. A perfect example of a Sasuke fan.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

This is what we're talking about. A perfect example of a Sasuke fan.

Now you're stereotyping.And besides if Sasuke has the eyes + the Bijuus chakra,in terms of power deosn't that put him above Naruto who has the body and Bijuus chakra?

Logic? You said what I said with different words. Naruto became serious after Sasuke started using Bijuu's powers.

He was on offensive, which means he was trying to deal damage. Naruto was on defensive, which means he didn't want to fight. Sasuke told him to step it up because he knew Naruto wasn't serious. Logically, if he didn't want to fight him. It's actually very simple yet complicated for Sasuke fans.

He was seroius the whole time,except he was just on the defensive.Sasuke got the Bijuus chakra so Naruto would become more seroius and take the offensive. Some people try to make it seem like Sasuke needed ths Bijuus power inorder to match Naruto.

 

[Romy9]

Now you're stereotyping.And besides if Sasuke has the eyes + the Bijuus chakra,in terms of power deosn't that put him above Naruto who has the body and Bijuus chakra?



He was seroius the whole time,except he was just on the defensive.Sasuke got the Bijuus chakra so Naruto would become more seroius and take the offensive. Some people try to make it seem like Sasuke needed ths Bijuus power inorder to match Naruto.

I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen. Why would it put him above Naruto? Did he suffer any significant damage? Did he start losing dramatically? Did it make Naruto struggle? No, none of it. It just made him serious. So no, he's not above him.

No, he wasn't. Why are you ignoring facts from manga? Was Naruto on defensive? Yes. How was he serious then? Don't talk about logic if you aren't using one. You're sugarcoating Sasuke's status in this fight. That in itself makes Sasuke weaker in the eyes of anyone who doesn't like him. Similar to how Itachi fans make anyone else hate Itachi.

 

[V h o]

Volk,you are now getting really desperate.So there being multiple Sasuke fans around means they're alts.And by Photoshop scans do, you mean mines? all i did was crop specific panels to what im referring,and apparently pionting out facts you don't like equals attempts at trying to make flame wars?

Do you say anything to people like Minator93? Probably not cause they're downplaying Sasuke but when someone post facts that don't make Naruto look good you assume it's trolling rather than simply talking about the story..

I didn't mention you or any other member in my response, and don't particularly care for you calling me desperate. By photoshop scans, I literally mean fan fiction, Rikuzen moving suns, Itachi sealing Kaguya, etc. I particularly don't care for crop scans either, because it ignores the other part of the scan just to prove a point, now if both were provided, or one part of the scan was highlighted, then I would have no problems.

Sasuke fans being alts is really even more deplorable since it makes 1 member seem like many, which really pushes the ideal that Sasukebase is the loudest fanbase, and now 1 potential troll is represented by many alts. Although not all SB members and/or fans of Sasuke are like this(which is sad because they get the blame for the trolls' actions), and I do appreciate those members for maintaining a sense of civility.

As for Minator, he obviously posts some flame war and completely false stuff, however some of his theories are pretty good, especially since he puts some time into research. And any theory that has been roughly laid out with some form of reasonable proof, is conceivable to me. I really appreciate a nice theory every now and then to get a good read, instead of threads why "x character has this trait and x character doesn't", which implies superiority sparking more flame wars. Then again the manga is ending while everyone is just awaiting the finale; most of the good theorist have went to writer's base/fan fiction or just stop posting/went inactive.

The fact that you always throw this "bias" card at people, really highlights your own bias toward x character, since everything has to be "bias" if you do not agree with it.

I normally don't even make long-ish posts like this due to it being a waste of time, by the notion that it will be ignored...

Either way I won't be responding back, since I have said all I have to say on this matter.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen. Why would it put him above Naruto? Did he suffer any significant damage? Did he start losing dramatically? Did it make Naruto struggle? No, none of it. It just made him serious. So no, he's not above him.

No, he wasn't. Why are you ignoring facts from manga? Was Naruto on defensive? Yes. How was he serious then? Don't talk about logic if you aren't using one. You're sugarcoating Sasuke's status in this fight. That in itself makes Sasuke weaker in the eyes of anyone who doesn't like him. Similar to how Itachi fans make anyone else hate Itachi.

He lost most of his chakra and needed to refuel.While Sasuke never showed any signs of having low amounts of chakra + now ue has chakra from all the Bijuus.

 

[QdonEms]

Naruto wankers only believe naruto is stronger than current sasuke.

Anyways if sasuke is stronger atm it doesnt mean the end of the world.

 

[Romy9]

He lost most of his chakra and needed to refuel.While Sasuke never showed any signs of having low amounts of chakra + now ue has chakra from all the Bijuus.

So what? Sasuke needed to "refuel" or "rest" against Kaguya when he closed the eyelid of Rinnegan. What's the point of that? You seriously think that reason alone determines who's stronger? And you even use the word "logic".

 

[Trea]

I think they are probably equal in power, which is what Kishi has continually set out to do. He always levels them out at some point. The reason why Sasuke seems to be more powerful than Naruto is that Sasuke does not hesitate to use his power because power matters to him above all else.

This latest power up with the tailed beast powered susanoo and Naruto's getting the nature energy was another such an attempt to even them out. I think it was also Kishi's move to get Naruto engaged in the fight instead of playing defense. What better way to get Naruto's attention than to use the tailed beasts against their will.

Naruto, on the other hand, only uses his power when absolutely necessary, if he thinks he can win without it he won't use it. He uses it when necessary because there are other things that are more important to him than power. At the beginning of the war he was using the cloak too much and wasting chakra, but that was not to show off, it was because he felt like he had to do everything and protect everyone. After meeting up with Itachi and Nagato and talking with them his attitude changed.

Sasuke thinks he has more power than Naruto and as sheer power goes, he probably does, but Naruto has an inner strength that Sasuke can never have because Naruto fights for more than just himself and for more than just power. He inherited Hashi's will of fire and Jiraiya's desire to bring peace to the shinobi world.

 

[Cael]

Naruto wankers only believe naruto is stronger than current sasuke.

Anyways if sasuke is stronger atm it doesnt mean the end of the world.

you have no proof that sasuke is stronger atm so your a wanker also.

 

[FreeTanner17]

He lost most of his chakra and needed to refuel.While Sasuke never showed any signs of having low amounts of chakra + now ue has chakra from all the Bijuus.

you do know Naruto has been fighting two to three times longer than sasuke and he is still able to go. If anything that makes Naruto much better in terms of stamina and raw power

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

So what? Sasuke needed to "refuel" or "rest" against Kaguya when he closed the eyelid of Rinnegan. What's the point of that? You seriously think that reason alone determines who's stronger? And you even use the word "logic".

There's a difference between needing to refuel and running out of chakra. Naruto was out of chakra, if not for his buddy kurama, he would have gotten soloed again. Sasuke just needed to gather the chakra for his rinnigan again until he got rather used to it.

you do know Naruto has been fighting two to three times longer than sasuke and he is still able to go. If anything that makes Naruto much better in terms of stamina and raw power

Naruto got healed and restored of all of his energy when he got the sage's power, same with Sasuke. So everything was reset when they both fought madara.

 

[lion fang master]

Ok so I have been seeing a lot of threads that say Sasuke is all powerful and Naruto has no power at all. Let's get something straight here. Naruto has the power of Ashura plus half the power of the Sage, the power of Sage Mode, and the power of the TB. He HAS LOTS OF POWER! So before u go insulting and bashing him for being weak, go read your manga.

I think U don't understand the power of so6p. The power that hagoromo gave naruto was to make naruto the place where tail beat meet and then he's true sage power could be awakened but now he is at ashura level, true physical power + nature energy mixes with kuruma's yin power. So yes sasukes is more powerful for now just because he has his own full sage's spiritual energy + all tail beast.

 

[Cael]

There's a difference between needing to refuel and running out of chakra. Naruto was out of chakra, if not for his buddy kurama, he would have gotten soloed again. Sasuke just needed to gather the chakra for his rinnigan again until he got rather used to it.



Naruto got healed and restored of all of his energy when he got the sage's power, same with Sasuke. So everything was reset when they both fought madara.

how about when the fought kaguya? naruto was the one that was doing the most.
beside you can't tell how well sasuke would have done if he didn't absorb the bijuu chakra.

 

[narutoblitz]

Naruto doesn't have Ashura's full power, and even if he did... Well, Ashura needed an army to take on his brother Indra. Indra was likely more powerful than Ashura, and their clash resulted in both of them dying. Ashura did not win, neither of them did. They both died.

Kurama just said Sasuke is on the level of the S06P, if not greater. Sasuke is also commanding all 9 TB's chakra. Nardo has 1/2 of Kurama, but Sasuke has the other half plus the other 8 TB. Also Naruto has been on the defensive this entire fight. I think Naruto may pull out a win, but if he does win I think Sasuke will either die or go MIA until the movie. I'd like to see an ambiguous ending, TBH. One where we don't know who won, and life just sort of goes on.

 

[Cael]

Naruto doesn't have Ashura's full power, and even if he did... Well, Ashura needed an army to take on his brother Indra. Indra was likely more powerful than Ashura, and their clash resulted in both of them dying. Ashura did not win, neither of them did. They both died.

Kurama just said Sasuke is on the level of the S06P, if not greater. Sasuke is also commanding all 9 TB's chakra. Nardo has 1/2 of Kurama, but Sasuke has the other half plus the other 8 TB. Also Naruto has been on the defensive this entire fight. I think Naruto may pull out a win, but if he does win I think Sasuke will either die or go MIA until the movie. I'd like to see an ambiguous ending, TBH. One where we don't know who won, and life just sort of goes on.

There you go again sprouting your delusional lies, where in the manga does it say that indra is more powerful than ashura, and where did it state that ashura needed an army to fight indra, in your head right ? well we can't read your mind. Next time think before you write and have manga facts not Opinions.

Kuruma also stated that he gave naruto way too much chakra. what do you have to say about that?

 

[ministerC4]

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I agree. Guessing by the end of the manga they will all crawl back under their rocks Lol

They always do right after they make rant threads 20x an hour, then they start complaining "Kishi nerfed Sasuke."Lol
I can't wait till they sdfu.