naruto's nature energy rasengan

[osba]

Clearly but some how it still made his body weak for some reason... Tobirama said it wasen't completely erased

it was because he was hit with a rasengan of natural chakra influence.

not influence.. just pure nature energy.

 

[Misconception]

Clearly but some how it still made his body weak for some reason... Tobirama said it wasen't completely erased

it was because he was hit with a rasengan of natural chakra influence.

Im tired of explaining listen up... When Naruto fought pain he used his Rasengan and it got absorbed... Also when Naruto got grabbed by Preta Path he knew it couldn't absorb the Naruto energy properly thats why he used more of his Sm...

So Naruto knowing that Preta path can't absorb Naruto energy would just continue to use basic chakra based Rasengans instead of making an Naruto energy one.???

 

[sage of infinite paths]

I agree all technique(s) executed in sage mode are from a combination of well balanced nature energy and the users individual chakra in synch

 

[fahadkurama]

This thread confused the sh** out of me.

What are you people saying. Is it a Rasengan made of Nature energy. Or is it one made of naruto chakra + nature energy?

Because even pain could only absorb attacks through his hands
So if he were to be attacked from behind. He would definately get hit.

From my own point of view. Obito and Pain's methods of countering ninjutsu are completely not thesame.
Obito's turn Jutsu into dust.
Pain's on the other hand, absorbs it. You see very different.

So the only type of jutsu known for now that Obito can't turn into dust is Senjutsu.

 

[osba]

This thread confused the sh** out of me.

What are you people saying. Is it a Rasengan made of Nature energy. Or is it one made of naruto chakra + nature energy?

Because even pain could only absorb attacks through his hands
So if he were to be attacked from behind. He would definately get hit.

From my own point of view. Obito and Pain's methods of countering ninjutsu are completely not thesame.
Obito's turn Jutsu into dust.
Pain's on the other hand, absorbs it. You see very different.

So the only type of jutsu known for now that Obito can't turn into dust is Senjutsu.

i suggest you to read x)

 

[AzR]

onmyoudon is not the same as the petra path...

onmyoudon(5 element tech) turns ninjutsu into nothing while petra path(rinnegan tech) absorbs chakra based attack..

 

[Honord Sage]

If you do not have Sage Training too much Natural Energy will kill you. Obito has never train as a Sage He uses the Juubi power to negated ninjutsu with Ninjutsu. Naruto has the advantage of being a Sage So He can use Natural Energy in its pures form to Hurt Obito. Ones Naruto takes the Juubi power from Obito,He will have unlimited Natural Energy and the knowhow to use it.

 

[Ovan]

Hm.. I see what you getting at.

 

[Draxus]

"floats"... Like EVERY version of rasengan ever?

lmao You think Naruto created a spirit bomb!

 

[Rikudou Sennin balls]

His rasengan was a normal rasengan with the added power of senjutsu. That's what sage mode does. It adds natural energy aka senjutsu.

It's assumed that the juubi's chakra is mostly made up of senjutsu so only senjutsu should be able to hurt him since he can cancel out the dark and light energy. The Juubi is a combination of all 9 tailed beast chakra with senjutsu.

 

[chibaku]

His rasengan was a normal rasengan with the added power of senjutsu. That's what sage mode does. It adds natural energy aka senjutsu.

It's assumed that the juubi's chakra is mostly made up of senjutsu so only senjutsu should be able to hurt him since he can cancel out the dark and light energy. The Juubi is a combination of all 9 tailed beast chakra with senjutsu.

so you are saying that only naruto or the 1st hokage could kill obito?

 

[boshans]

this.. it isn't dangerous as long as it is well proportionned(?)
if naruto would use senjutsu without using an equal portion of chakra, the balance would be offset and the sage mode would dissapear.
if he took too much senjutsu and if he took too little it would take over his body and turn him to stone
so the rasengan he used must have been pure nature chakra, it also explains why he did it whilest gathering nature chakra.. he had to create it whilest gathering or else it would offset his balance to create one!

you guys dont understand sage mode. naruto cant control how much nature energy he takes in, that is why you need massive amounts of chakra to use sage mode, because you cant control how much you take in. when naruto enters sage mode, he lets his body absorb nature energy, and he has to balance that nature energy with his own spiritual and physical energy to enter sage mode, thats why you need enourmous amounts of chakra. if you could control how much nature energy you take in, people without massive amounts of chakra would be able to use sage mode, hell if you could control the intake, anyone could use it. but you cant control it, hence needing massive chakra reserves. nature energy + physical energy + spiritual energy = senjutsu chakra.

and i dont really understand what you are trying to say about the rasengan...english please. naruto didnt create the rasengan at the same time as him absorbing nature energy. he sat there absorbing nature energy, went into sage mode, and then made a rasengan right after he went into sage mode...like he has done a million times in the past. the rasengan was not pure nature energy. it was senjutsu chakra. it was narutos physical energy + spiritual energy + nature energy = senjutsu chakra, then he used that senjutsu chakra to make the rasengan. so the rasengan was physical energy + spiritual energy + nature energy. regular chakra is just spiritual energy + physical energy by the way. you take those two and mold them together into regular chakra. sage mode is just thlse two parts plus nature energy, then you mold those three together into senjutsu chakra. there is no way to just use nature energy, you cant mold one type of energy into chakra. the reason why it worked against obito is because the juubi is made up of nature energy, so therefore obito is made up of the same thing now, so it stands to reason the only thing that can harm the juubi/obito is the same thing its made of.

also the thing with pain has nothing to do with anything, yes pain absorbed narutos sage mode rasenshuriken, but that wasnt pure nature energy he absorbed, it was molded senjutsu chakra, like i already said, is physical energy+spiritual energy+nature energy, it was already molded into chakra when he absorbed it, he wouldnt turn to stone since hes not just absorbing pure nature chakra. when the path grabbed naruto and was sucking narutos chakra out directly from naruto, he turned to stone then because naruto started absorbing pure nature energy, therefore pain started absorbing nature energy, and since pain doesnt know how to balance the three energies together, physical/spiritual/nature energy, he turned to stone because the nature energy wasnt balanced. that doesnt happen when he just absorbs a jutsu already molded into senjutsu chakra.

Clearly but some how it still made his body weak for some reason... Tobirama said it wasen't completely erased

Ik im just saying Naruto can't use sm in his jutsu... Preta Path absorbed Sm Naruto and Jiraiya Rasenagn without any effect...

tobirama said it wasnt erased, meaning the jutsu gamakichi used wasnt turned to "dust" like every other jutsu used against obito up until that point. amaterasu, rasenshuriken, sandaimes shuriken kage bunshins, etc., were all turned to nothing, obito "erased" them from existence. gamakichis water blast though wasnt erased, he just blocked it with a sort of barrier, but it didnt disappear. thats all tobirama meant...it didnt do anything to obitos body at all.

so you are saying that only naruto or the 1st hokage could kill obito?

yes, from the info we know so far, it looks like only naruto and hashirama can damage obito, since they are the only ones who can enter sage mode so far.

 

[Kronnic]

Obito was only hurt because of that liquid Gamakichi shot out at him... That was regular basic Rasengan...

When and where did the liquid candy hit Obito? Buddy, it never touched Obito but his shield did not absorb it like it absorbed every ninjutsu attacks. Because his black orb shield did not absorb it Naruto saw that and exploited it.
Look at the panel again and show me where it hit him.

 

[Regulus]

This thread is a joke. Every Rasengan ever floats. Plus you post this without providing any proof or scans.

 

[osba]

you guys dont understand sage mode blablablablabla

assumption. please dont act smart without knowing the manga.
if that would be so then naruto training for it was never in grave danger of turning to stone.

and i dont really understand what you are trying to say about the rasengan...english please. blablablabla

[/quote] not true... he was already making the rasengan whilest gathering the chakra..

and since pain doesnt know how to balance the three energies together, physical/spiritual/nature energy, he turned to stone because the nature energy wasnt balanced. that doesnt happen when he just absorbs a jutsu already molded into senjutsu chakra.

AAAND yet again not true.. he focussed his sage mode out so that the balance was offset.. before that senjutsu did not hurt him.

what is your problem dude? don't act smart without knowing the manga.

This thread is a joke. Every Rasengan ever floats. Plus you post this without providing any proof or scans.

..if only you were smart enough to understand stuff by reading..

 

[Regulus]

assumption. please dont act smart without knowing the manga.
if that would be so then naruto training for it was never in grave danger of turning to stone.

not true... he was already making the rasengan whilest gathering the chakra..

AAAND yet again not true.. he focussed his sage mode out so that the balance was offset.. before that senjutsu did not hurt him.

what is your problem dude? don't act smart without knowing the manga.


..if only you were smart enough to understand stuff by reading.. [/QUOTE]

You are the one who is not smart enough to understand the manga.

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Rasengan does not touch the users hand.

With that alone that entire premise of your post is destroyed.

 

[osba]

Rasengan does not touch the users hand.

With that alone that entire premise of your post is destroyed.

i was only saying that it was floating abnormally far from his hand... but why do i even bother, your just one of those guys that only accepts his own theory and is too stubborn to look the other way. please stop posting on my thread or it will get locked by some mod saying that there is a flame war going on.

 

[Regulus]

i was only saying that it was floating abnormally far from his hand... but why do i even bother, your just one of those guys that only accepts his own theory and is too stubborn to look the other way. please stop posting on my thread or it will get locked by some mod saying that there is a flame war going on.

Is this how you respond to everyone that does not agree with you? You say I only accept my own theories, yet you are the one getting angry at me for not accepting yours and you don't discuss theories on the other side you just brush them away? I'll consider any theory as long as it is good and makes sense. However I disagree with yours and chose not to accept it.

 

[osba]

This thread is a joke.

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[Sethic]

Good thread, I have to agree with you. The toad said that sage mode utilizes the nature energy around you. One of the reasons Naruto was able to hit one of the Pains without physically touching him, throw a Rasenshuriken, and possibly create a rasengan without a clone.