Naruto's hand symbol

[Made in Heaven]

It was always waay to apparent to normal people that that was a Sun and not a Moon

 

[ssjelf]

It was always waay to apparent to normal people that that was a Sun and not a Moon

Did you forget you are on narutobase? haha

 

[Aim64C]

A lot of people said it was a sun and a lot said it was a full moon. I think this scan clarifies it

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If you look at the top left you notice the symbol is covered in flames. Kinda like a sun. So it is definitely a sun not a full moon, unless you think a full moon should have flames around it.

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This is quite probably a double-meaning.

Kishimoto has done this, before:

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At first I thought it was purely a weird Taoist 'nod.' But then it became more obvious as I began digging deeper into Shinto and Buddhist teachings.

At the core of Japanese Buddhism is a Taoist model of the physical and divine universe. This is symbolized by the 'old' Yin and Yang symbol in the center - the spiral. This symbolizes the mixing of Taiji (divine inspiration) with Wuji (the formless infinite) to create the cycle of Yin and Yang. This produces the four movements which in turn create the Eight Trigrams - or Bagua; the core phases of the mundane world.

I just thought it was weird that the Bagua were illustrated as triangles... and that square always seemed a bit odd.

Then it hit me while researching Hidan and the symbols used for Jashinism. The square in the upper left hand corner is the symbol for Amaterasu - the Sun Goddess. The circle formed from the spiral is the symbol for Tsukuyomi - the Moon God. The triangle forming the Bagua is the symbol for Susano'o - or the God of the Stars (also God of the Tempest).

This fits in perfectly with the notion under Taoist depictions of Yin/Yang cycles being embodied by the Moon - which continually shifts from fully bright (yang) to fully dark (yin). The Bagua can actually be said to relate to different phases of the moon based on their relative composition and hierarchy of yin/yang composition (whether Yang is building or Yin is returning).

This also ties into Infinite Tsukuyomi and the concept of 'Divine Presence' or 'awareness.'

Amaterasu rules the state of divine presence - the state of divine consciousness and wakefulness. Tsukuyomi rules the state of sleeping and dreaming - when we are focused on the day-to-day and the mundane. Susano'o rules the stars that remind those who are asleep to wake up and to guide them to a state of awareness (from back when stars were navigational aids).

Thus, it would make sense that Susano'o prevents one from falling under IT - which is a state of continually being ruled by a dream world.

Of course - the moon plays heavily in Buddhism.

The symbol on Naruto's hand is the full moon. It symbolizes "Return" - the progression of Yang back to Yin in Taoism.

It also represents the state of enlightenment - the moment of divine inspiration or grasp of "True Yang" - which is "doing nothing."

Yang is also associated with the Sun - which can be taken in various artistic language to mean similar things (along with the concept of unifying the Sun and Moon to eliminate shadow).

I recall an interesting diagram that showed the various 'realms' according to some combination of Japanese teachings that showed the "impure" world in the shadow of the full moon. I can't find it, currently - but it stood out as relevant to the mechanics of Tsukuyomi.

 

[Jimihendrix]

so naruto's and sasuke's seals are gone. What does this mean? Sasuke's rinnegan is still around. Is that because it came about through Hashirama's cells? It looks as though Kakashi has his normal eyes again. And Naruto is of course normal looking.

So what gives? What's this story's resolution?

 

[ssjelf]

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This is quite probably a double-meaning.

Kishimoto has done this, before:

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At first I thought it was purely a weird Taoist 'nod.' But then it became more obvious as I began digging deeper into Shinto and Buddhist teachings.

At the core of Japanese Buddhism is a Taoist model of the physical and divine universe. This is symbolized by the 'old' Yin and Yang symbol in the center - the spiral. This symbolizes the mixing of Taiji (divine inspiration) with Wuji (the formless infinite) to create the cycle of Yin and Yang. This produces the four movements which in turn create the Eight Trigrams - or Bagua; the core phases of the mundane world.

I just thought it was weird that the Bagua were illustrated as triangles... and that square always seemed a bit odd.

Then it hit me while researching Hidan and the symbols used for Jashinism. The square in the upper left hand corner is the symbol for Amaterasu - the Sun Goddess. The circle formed from the spiral is the symbol for Tsukuyomi - the Moon God. The triangle forming the Bagua is the symbol for Susano'o - or the God of the Stars (also God of the Tempest).

This fits in perfectly with the notion under Taoist depictions of Yin/Yang cycles being embodied by the Moon - which continually shifts from fully bright (yang) to fully dark (yin). The Bagua can actually be said to relate to different phases of the moon based on their relative composition and hierarchy of yin/yang composition (whether Yang is building or Yin is returning).

This also ties into Infinite Tsukuyomi and the concept of 'Divine Presence' or 'awareness.'

Amaterasu rules the state of divine presence - the state of divine consciousness and wakefulness. Tsukuyomi rules the state of sleeping and dreaming - when we are focused on the day-to-day and the mundane. Susano'o rules the stars that remind those who are asleep to wake up and to guide them to a state of awareness (from back when stars were navigational aids).

Thus, it would make sense that Susano'o prevents one from falling under IT - which is a state of continually being ruled by a dream world.

Of course - the moon plays heavily in Buddhism.

The symbol on Naruto's hand is the full moon. It symbolizes "Return" - the progression of Yang back to Yin in Taoism.

It also represents the state of enlightenment - the moment of divine inspiration or grasp of "True Yang" - which is "doing nothing."

Yang is also associated with the Sun - which can be taken in various artistic language to mean similar things (along with the concept of unifying the Sun and Moon to eliminate shadow).

I recall an interesting diagram that showed the various 'realms' according to some combination of Japanese teachings that showed the "impure" world in the shadow of the full moon. I can't find it, currently - but it stood out as relevant to the mechanics of Tsukuyomi.

I am going to refer back to Gyaketsu here. he said that "The hand symbol for Zen and Ming is a fist and curved hand representing the sun and moon together and means enlightenment. The thought was that if the Sun and Moon were together there would be no shadows." We can see this is true because look at Kaguyas eye here. The sun and moon coming together and it is symbolizing that peace is being achieved. (strive being the shadows) Also the symbol has flames on it in the full drawing, if it was both why represent it there as one? More accurately what is happening is the sun and moon coming together and at different points in time we get the phases of the moon. Full when yang is in "control" and yin during a new moon. So the full moon is really a result of the struggle of yin and yang or the sun and moon as represented here.

 

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It looks like an eclipse

 

[kageking]

Those are CLEARLY moon flames. Some people just see what they want.