Naruto's Eyes are better than Sharingan

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some people didn't even read and understand they must have skim read cause it's some less than genius comments up hear like the guy that reiterated that ftg is faster than naruto.... Already Stated and counted for... i hate readin ish where people have no argument whatsoever so they jus make one up jus cause if you're gonna criticize a statement please have facts.. and stop wasting thread space... by the way i actually have my fact's together okay... before anyone in the series saw someone moving really fast their eyes couldn't conceive such speed... but since it seems that every time someone ends up faster they also can perceive the speed immediately so naruto's eye perception isn't better than anyone elses he just moves faster than the rest...
better example :
flash runs really fast
superman runs really fast
their eyes arent special it just comes with the territory ;D
 
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GREATEST SIGNATURE EVER! Where did it all start and begin indeed!!

and yes

This makes sense. Sharingan maybe can't see at the speed of light, but not much moves at the speed of light, so not really a weakness, and not much of a strength. Unless Naruto runs around really quick like say Goku against Krillin and you can't see him but he can see you, he can just get super dizzy spinning in a circle instead. I kinda doubt his speed allows for sharp cuts and turns. More like he's thrown then he's moving, cause it's not his legs propelling him mostly but rather it's chakra. Like Kaiten but in one direction.

well if you could'nt make sharp turns how could you run in a circle or how did he end up behind the raikage facing the raikage @ the last second.... hmmm(pondering) and much respect but have you been watching naruto?! speed and reaction time is everything when it comes to the sharingan for instance... sasuke got beat up by lee before he could move that fast... then he got beat up by naruto when they fought in the trail of tears.... and unless a quality of the sharingan has changed @ naruto's current speed he could hit sasuke before sasuke realized he moved!!!
 

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the physics that you tried to use to support your argument was so flawed that i read the first 5 lines or so then just gave up because your argument was completely wrong because thats not how the human eye work and im not going to explain it to you using physics but simply say, a plane moves at 600 miles per hour which is 880 feet per second. can you see outside a planes window and see the scenery? thats what i thought.

What scenery are you possibly seeing that i don't see @ 60000 feet my bionic eyed genius buddy!?! Hmm (pondering here)
 

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There are so many flaws in this thread but it is your opinion so i respect this....for instance naruto doesn't have an eye jutsu. he has the sensing ability using the sage mode but this sensing ability does not use eyes as medium...second, naruto can teleport using his father's ability where raikage, when he tested naruto, he said naruto is the ONLY SECOND PERSON who can evade raikage's lightning speed, and the rikage is refering to Minato the Fourth Hokage as the as the FIRST PERSON to evade the attack of raikage. with this statements, i can say that naruto's ability to teleport is a little bit slower than FTG because he is still trying to learn and control the technique but the ability was inherited from his father thus making it at par with Minato's FTG..

since you showed respect i won't go all out like i did the first two... however you've got to get your education too... *sigh* the thread mean't that naruto can see physically better than any other eye because to move that fast and still realize which direction you want to go is pretty great perception, but the sharingan wouldn't be able to keep up with the speed... and well we all no ftg isn't speed at all it's time space.. he used the ftg as an example relatively how fast naruto currently moves...
 

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the physics that you tried to use to support your argument was so flawed that i read the first 5 lines or so then just gave up because your argument was completely wrong because thats not how the human eye work and im not going to explain it to you using physics but simply say, a plane moves at 600 miles per hour which is 880 feet per second. can you see outside a planes window and see the scenery? thats what i thought.

The scenery is 20,000 feet away, if a plan was traveling 600mph 3 feet away, do you still think you could see it?
 

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some people didn't even read and understand they must have skim read cause it's some less than genius comments up hear like the guy that reiterated that ftg is faster than naruto.... Already Stated and counted for... i hate readin ish where people have no argument whatsoever so they jus make one up jus cause if you're gonna criticize a statement please have facts.. and stop wasting thread space... by the way he is absolutely right and there is no evidence to disprove his statement because to move that fast and still perceive direction correctly far exceeds the sharingan

Thanks! I respect you a lot. But it's these stupid people who made this thread one of the hottest threads without being some controversial flame war versus thread between the two biggest fan boy populations. So i might as well deal with it. xd
 

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As we all know, the sharingan allows the user to track movements of extremely fast enemies to the extent that they almost have a precognitive ability of seeing what their opponent is going to do.

Now, if you've ever seen a movie, then you know each second is made up of frames that move so fast your eyes can't physically process each frame individually and so they are all blended together to make it seem as if the movie is happening in real time. These frames move at 24 frames per second which means that each frame is put on screen for 1/24th of a second. Each second on screen uses 1.5 feet of reel for every 24 frames. Which means that anything moving at a speed of 1.5 feet per second is indistinguishable to the human eye.

Naruto as we also know, is now the fastest character in the manga, and probably the fastest character in the entirety of the world. [Naruto can move at speeds faster than Minato Namikaze's Flying Thunder God which is described as being near instantaneous (let's call it light-speed for argument's sake). The speed of light is approximately 989,315,111 feet/second, 659,543,407 x the speed of which the human eye can perceive.] [EDIT] I have recently been convinced/reminded that Naruto is not faster than FTG. Now, for argument's sake again, let's SAY FTG is the speed of light (which already is a huge compromise seeing as it's much MUCH faster than light). Also let's say Naruto moves even 5000 x slower than light speed. He is still moving at speeds of 197,863 feet/second. Faster than the human eye can make out, which means the scenery naruto is passing by seems to be moving that fast from Naruto's point of view, meaning if he can perceive the scenery around him, his eyes are on par with the sharingan. [EDIT]

When moving at these speeds, it would be impossible to distinguish objects outside of you from each other because of the tunnel effect (even present when kakashi used his chidori for the first time). This could be remedied when fighting characters of an evil nature such as tobi and the tailed beasts due to his new ability to sense evil thoughts and feelings.

However, when using these speeds against opponents such as A, when near hinata, or when fighting characters brought back by the Edo Tensei who are not inherently evil but are being forced to fight against their will, his ability to sense negative emotions would not help in seeing or sensing where these people are.

With that said, naruto must be able to see his enemies and the terrain clearly while in his Nine Tails Chakra Shroud as he cannot use sage mode simultaneously. Therefor, naruto's eyes are AT THE VERY LEAST, on par with the sharingan.

That's all i have to say. I know it's a manga where people can breath fire and walk on water, but i just wanted to point out the science behind Naruto. xd

I have to agree. Just another reason why the sharingan is overrated.
 

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As we all know, the sharingan allows the user to track movements of extremely fast enemies to the extent that they almost have a precognitive ability of seeing what their opponent is going to do.

Now, if you've ever seen a movie, then you know each second is made up of frames that move so fast your eyes can't physically process each frame individually and so they are all blended together to make it seem as if the movie is happening in real time. These frames move at 24 frames per second which means that each frame is put on screen for 1/24th of a second. Each second on screen uses 1.5 feet of reel for every 24 frames. Which means that anything moving at a speed of 1.5 feet per second is indistinguishable to the human eye.

Naruto as we also know, is now the fastest character in the manga, and probably the fastest character in the entirety of the world. [Naruto can move at speeds faster than Minato Namikaze's Flying Thunder God which is described as being near instantaneous (let's call it light-speed for argument's sake). The speed of light is approximately 989,315,111 feet/second, 659,543,407 x the speed of which the human eye can perceive.] [EDIT] I have recently been convinced/reminded that Naruto is not faster than FTG. Now, for argument's sake again, let's SAY FTG is the speed of light (which already is a huge compromise seeing as it's much MUCH faster than light). Also let's say Naruto moves even 5000 x slower than light speed. He is still moving at speeds of 197,863 feet/second. Faster than the human eye can make out, which means the scenery naruto is passing by seems to be moving that fast from Naruto's point of view, meaning if he can perceive the scenery around him, his eyes are on par with the sharingan. [EDIT]

When moving at these speeds, it would be impossible to distinguish objects outside of you from each other because of the tunnel effect (even present when kakashi used his chidori for the first time). This could be remedied when fighting characters of an evil nature such as tobi and the tailed beasts due to his new ability to sense evil thoughts and feelings.

However, when using these speeds against opponents such as A, when near hinata, or when fighting characters brought back by the Edo Tensei who are not inherently evil but are being forced to fight against their will, his ability to sense negative emotions would not help in seeing or sensing where these people are.

With that said, naruto must be able to see his enemies and the terrain clearly while in his Nine Tails Chakra Shroud as he cannot use sage mode simultaneously. Therefor, naruto's eyes are AT THE VERY LEAST, on par with the sharingan.

That's all i have to say. I know it's a manga where people can breath fire and walk on water, but i just wanted to point out the science behind Naruto. xd

Your logic = awesome plus rep mate most people wouldnt understand your thinking as they cant even use basic maths LOL
 

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Hmmm

I dont thinkt narutos eyes are equal than the sharingan or closed, i mean if we think about it.
Moving at crazy high speed doest mean that your eyes will be able to fallow it, may adapt it but it wont be able to completly fallow.

when naruto fought the 3rd raikage, he surpassed A in speed before the battle with the 3rd, what i mean is that naruto had to enter in sannin mode because his eyes even in KM woulndt be able to see the 3rd fast attack.
 
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All of these smart people that actually understand basic logic are COMPLETELY worth all the grade school haters that i've had to wade through all day. Thank you all! :)
 

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even human eyes come with different effects , there are color blind people , some people have eyes close to the eagle.

Narutos eye processing speed might rival that of a Sharingan.

Also no Uchiha ever lived is as fast as Naruto currently is.

So it would be a problem for Sasuke too keep up with Naruto.

Also Naruto has sensory abilities , that surpass the Byakugan , able too feel negative emotions and track people with ease over extremely long distances.
 

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I actually agree with this thread somehow... If it was real life... this is Naruto, logic doesnt matter.
 

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sasukes MS eyes are better in terms of keeping up to a speed of lightning :rofl:
 

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Just saying but. how are these just normal eyes?

commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Naruto-eye-evo-jp.svg
 

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The scenery is 20,000 feet away, if a plan was traveling 600mph 3 feet away, do you still think you could see it?

Good job! Owned his ass lol

Better example. Ypur in a train enetering a tunnel at 100mph. Can your eyes keep up while looking out Tge window or does it become a fuzz. I say a fuzz but naruto can apparently see better than that.
 

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Good job! Owned his ass lol

Better example. Ypur in a train enetering a tunnel at 100mph. Can your eyes keep up while looking out Tge window or does it become a fuzz. I say a fuzz but naruto can apparently see better than that.

Exactly, someone else said something a while back and i pretty much told him to picture he was the pilot of an F22 jet flying on the ground in new york city, and asked if he could find his mom in the window of a random building... No response... haha
 

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Exactly, someone else said something a while back and i pretty much told him to picture he was the pilot of an F22 jet flying on the ground in new york city, and asked if he could find his mom in the window of a random building... No response... haha

That'd be fcuking hard lol unless you're naruto ;) lol
 

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sasukes MS eyes are better in terms of keeping up to a speed of lightning :rofl:

Is that why sasuke needs to be "protected even if he can't follow Raikage's movements?"
 
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