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Let me start off by saying unorthodox those threads were hilarious! Usually your a Sasuke fanboy and i didn't really enjoy your statements, but after those threads i have to say you ain't bad at all. Let's be honest here this is a list of BS that people use to accept Naruto as a character.

Naruto:

- Naruto's fights for his friends
- Naruto's a good guy that cares for others. instead of just himself
- Naruto's more of a leader than Sasuke at least he doesn't focus on hatred and being IMO.
- Naruto's a better friend to Sasuke than vice-versa.
- Naruto's doesn't lack consideration like Sasuke.
- Naruto's better than Sasuke in every way.
- Naruto's the next Sage that will be adored by everyone and Sasuke will have nothing in the end.
- Naruto's brave and not a coward like Sasuke.
- Naruto's a better character than Sasuke in terms of adventure.
- Naruto's mature unlike Sasuke.
- Naruto's undefeated all the time and Sasuke loses all his matches.

Sasuke:

- He's an introverted brat that only cares about himself.
- He's a brother that lacks the consideration of his older brother.
- He's a bad friend to Naruto.
- He's only focused on revenge and doesn't have any other goal besides revenge.
- He's a boring character with no development since Part I.
- He's so uncaring of his previous teammates and sensei.
- He's lacking maturity all the time
- He's always losing a battle 1v1.
- He's an unimportant character that has nothing going for him.
- He's never listening to anyone's opinion, but his own.
- He's going to end with nothing and Naruto will become a Sage.

Many of you that keep **** riding Naruto aren't using common sense here. When you keep mentioning all these details on how Naruto is a better character i don't see it. Sasuke is the deuteragonist in the series and even though he isn't the primary character in the series doesn't make him any less than Naruto. Sasuke has the hardest life out of the two, because he lost his family at a early age witnessing their deaths with his own eyes. Sasuke has been trapped in an abyss of darkness and confusion because of people like Danzo, Itachi, Obito, and Madara.

He's a corrupted person and can anyone blame him? I certainly don't. I hate the fact that he keeps clinging on revenge, but that doesn't make me hate his character. I can sympathize with Sasuke because he is misunderstood a lot by everyone. The only individuals that can sort of comprehend Sasuke is Naruto and Itachi. They know Sasuke's hate and pain both make up his characteristics and persona.

Here's a scan that shows Sasuke confronting Itachi about his choices:

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As you seen in the scan, Sasuke is still hurt by the changes in his life that doesn't mean he enjoy his path because he never did!

Here's the second scan that shows Itachi wishing Sasuke to walk on the right path:

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Sasuke rejects the idea of Itachi wishing him to change sides. You see it's because Sasuke never got acceptance in his own choices. Itachi was the one that directed him on what was right and wrong. Since Sasuke's opinions and choices in life were a non-factor it shows that Sasuke is reluctant about changing his own mind because in the end if Itachi just agreed with Sasuke on something. Sasuke wouldn't have been the egotistical jerk that denies everyone's wishes. It all culminated because of Itachi.

Here's the third scan where Itachi finally reveals the hidden truth to Sasuke:

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From here on it shows that Sasuke will finally get his questions answered. Sasuke holds revenge for most of his life, but perhaps it might diminish with this flashback.

Here's the final scan where Itachi says in between the lines, "if i have faced you from the start... tried to see things in your point of view! You see that's what i mean here. He never listened to Sasuke or even cared about his opinion that in turn made Sasuke a rebellious person.

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When Sasuke kept mentioning that he was going to destroy Konoha despite what Itachi told him. I feel he only kept rambling about it, because he just wanted Itachi to accept his decision, but because Sasuke got the acceptance from Itachi in return. I think that completed Sasuke in a way because he might put the destruction of Konoha aside, since he got the most important thing from Itachi, his approval of Sasuke's choice and still loving him.

Sasuke is one of the leading figures in this series without him. Naruto would have never become this strong, because this is the person that Naruto idolizes and frequently wants not only his acknowledgement, but to finally surpass him. Sasuke isn't a boring character, because despite his obsession with revenge. Sasuke has one of the best storylines in the series and the best action pack battles in the series.

Sasuke also is a leader in fact better than Naruto. At least he completes his goals and finds answers about the unfolding of the Uchiha Clan. He doesn't let no one change his path and that makes him a true here it doesn't matter whether the path is peaceful or sinister. His story is actually way sad when i compare him with Naruto. Sure, Naruto didn't get to see his parents and was an outcast with his peers, but his life wasn't completely devastating. The last time Naruto had a devastating path was in Episode 1 when Mizuki called him a monster.

Sasuke has lived a difficult life with more pressures on finding the truth. While, Naruto slowly became acknowledged by everyone. He had new friends to spend time with unlike Sasuke. Sasuke never settled for the simplistic life and that's the reason why i say his life is filled with more complications than Naruto. Naruto actually met his mother and father. Did Sasuke get that privilege? No! He saw at least Itachi, but his parents have been absent and he might never see them unless Kishi plans to bring them in the story for a limited time.

Sasuke is mature, maybe his cockyness clouds that perception you see of him. In no form is Naruto ten times more mature than Sasuke. Sasuke is also not a weakling because he fought the toughest bunch in an equal footing and better just a few loses big whoop! The problem with many of you Narutards is that your character is easy to comprehend and understand. You can't really judge someone like Sasuke. He did cared for Team 7 did save Naruto a couple of times, as well as Sakura. Sasuke also had a temporary bond with Taka that hopefully can be reestablished soon.

Naruto fanboys are the worse, because you judge Sasuke's fanboys for their fanboyism? Well at least they just put his name on a good form, not dickriding a character like all of yous. Naruto is no god and he is no better than Sasuke. What i will say is that Naruto will surpass Sasuke by a cinch, since Kishi made him the main character.
 

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You people never learn, you base what's right and what's wrong based on your point of view, each one of us has a POV, why not share your opinion with respect instead of trying to enforce it.
 

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You people never learn, you base what's right and what's wrong based on your point of view, each one of us has a POV, why not share your opinion with respect instead of trying to enforce it.

The same way Naruto fanboys push the Sasuke fanboys? Yeah that's really fair isn't?
 

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i like both characters, when bored of seeing naruto, i want to see sasuke and vise versa. im a neutral fanboy
 

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i like both characters, when bored of seeing naruto, i want to see sasuke and vise versa. im a neutral fanboy

So am i! I never liked Naruto that much before the Pain Arc, but since then i like them both equally.
 

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Let me start off by saying unorthodox those threads were hilarious! Usually your a Sasuke fanboy and i didn't really enjoy your statements, but after those threads i have to say you ain't bad at all. Let's be honest here this is a list of BS that people use to accept Naruto as a character.

Naruto:

- Naruto's fights for his friends
- Naruto's a good guy that cares for others. instead of just himself
- Naruto's more of a leader than Sasuke at least he doesn't focus on hatred and being IMO.
- Naruto's a better friend to Sasuke than vice-versa.
- Naruto's doesn't lack consideration like Sasuke.
- Naruto's better than Sasuke in every way.
- Naruto's the next Sage that will be adored by everyone and Sasuke will have nothing in the end.
- Naruto's brave and not a coward like Sasuke.
- Naruto's a better character than Sasuke in terms of adventure.
- Naruto's mature unlike Sasuke.
- Naruto's undefeated all the time and Sasuke loses all his matches.

Sasuke:

- He's an introverted brat that only cares about himself.
- He's a brother that lacks the consideration of his older brother.
- He's a bad friend to Naruto.
- He's only focused on revenge and doesn't have any other goal besides revenge.
- He's a boring character with no development since Part I.
- He's so uncaring of his previous teammates and sensei.
- He's lacking maturity all the time
- He's always losing a battle 1v1.
- He's an unimportant character that has nothing going for him.
- He's never listening to anyone's opinion, but his own.
- He's going to end with nothing and Naruto will become a Sage.

Many of you that keep **** riding Naruto aren't using common sense here. When you keep mentioning all these details on how Naruto is a better character i don't see it. Sasuke is the deuteragonist in the series and even though he isn't the primary character in the series doesn't make him any less than Naruto. Sasuke has the hardest life out of the two, because he lost his family at a early age witnessing their deaths with his own eyes. Sasuke has been trapped in an abyss of darkness and confusion because of people like Danzo, Itachi, Obito, and Madara.

He's a corrupted person and can anyone blame him? I certainly don't. I hate the fact that he keeps clinging on revenge, but that doesn't make me hate his character. I can sympathize with Sasuke because he is misunderstood a lot by everyone. The only individuals that can sort of comprehend Sasuke is Naruto and Itachi. They know Sasuke's hate and pain both make up his characteristics and persona.

Here's a scan that shows Sasuke confronting Itachi about his choices:

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As you seen in the scan, Sasuke is still hurt by the changes in his life that doesn't mean he enjoy his path because he never did!

Here's the second scan that shows Itachi wishing Sasuke to walk on the right path:

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Sasuke rejects the idea of Itachi wishing him to change sides. You see it's because Sasuke never got acceptance in his own choices. Itachi was the one that directed him on what was right and wrong. Since Sasuke's opinions and choices in life were a non-factor it shows that Sasuke is reluctant about changing his own mind because in the end if Itachi just agreed with Sasuke on something. Sasuke wouldn't have been the egotistical jerk that denies everyone's wishes. It all culminated because of Itachi.

Here's the third scan where Itachi finally reveals the hidden truth to Sasuke:

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From here on it shows that Sasuke will finally get his questions answered. Sasuke holds revenge for most of his life, but perhaps it might diminish with this flashback.

Here's the final scan where Itachi says in between the lines, "if i have faced you from the start... tried to see things in your point of view! You see that's what i mean here. He never listened to Sasuke or even cared about his opinion that in turn made Sasuke a rebellious person.

You must be registered for see images


When Sasuke kept mentioning that he was going to destroy Konoha despite what Itachi told him. I feel he only kept rambling about it, because he just wanted Itachi to accept his decision, but because Sasuke got the acceptance from Itachi in return. I think that completed Sasuke in a way because he might put the destruction of Konoha aside, since he got the most important thing from Itachi, his approval of Sasuke's choice and still loving him.

Sasuke is one of the leading figures in this series without him. Naruto would have never become this strong, because this is the person that Naruto idolizes and frequently wants not only his acknowledgement, but to finally surpass him. Sasuke isn't a boring character, because despite his obsession with revenge. Sasuke has one of the best storylines in the series and the best action pack battles in the series.

Sasuke also is a leader in fact better than Naruto. At least he completes his goals and finds answers about the unfolding of the Uchiha Clan. He doesn't let no one change his path and that makes him a true here it doesn't matter whether the path is peaceful or sinister. His story is actually way sad when i compare him with Naruto. Sure, Naruto didn't get to see his parents and was an outcast with his peers, but his life wasn't completely devastating. The last time Naruto had a devastating path was in Episode 1 when Mizuki called him a monster.

Sasuke has lived a difficult life with more pressures on finding the truth. While, Naruto slowly became acknowledged by everyone. He had new friends to spend time with unlike Sasuke. Sasuke never settled for the simplistic life and that's the reason why i say his life is filled with more complications than Naruto. Naruto actually met his mother and father. Did Sasuke get that privilege? No! He saw at least Itachi, but his parents have been absent and he might never see them unless Kishi plans to bring them in the story for a limited time.

Sasuke is mature, maybe his cockyness clouds that perception you see of him. In no form is Naruto ten times more mature than Sasuke. Sasuke is also not a weakling because he fought the toughest bunch in an equal footing and better just a few loses big whoop! The problem with many of you Narutards is that your character is easy to comprehend and understand. You can't really judge someone like Sasuke. He did cared for Team 7 did save Naruto a couple of times, as well as Sakura. Sasuke also had a temporary bond with Taka that hopefully can be reestablished soon.

Naruto fanboys are the worse, because you judge Sasuke's fanboys for their fanboyism? Well at least they just put his name on a good form, not dickriding a character like all of yous. Naruto is no god and he is no better than Sasuke. What i will say is that Naruto will surpass Sasuke by a cinch, since Kishi made him the main character.

If u Sasuke fanboys justify Mass Murder, Betrayal etc and completely gloss over facts then ur obviously going to get riducled..... for example u said "Naruto actually met his mother and father. Did Sasuke get that privilege? No! He saw at least Itachi, but his parents have been absent and he might never see them unless Kishi plans to bring them in the story for a limited time." Now do u really need me to comment on that?

I myself sympathies with Sasuke but still disagree with his actions. I dislike only two things about Sasuke: First, He keeps pushing away love, friendship and a good future for the sake of the past . . . . Secondly, Despite all his powers he is manipulated a lot.
 

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Sigh, I see what you're trying to say.

It all comes down to this NB community, most of them are just immature children with something to prove all the time, you're just being weaker then twelve year olds by letting it get to you.

Be the better person, kick your legs up and yell; "I don't give two sh*ts!"
 

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I like Sasuke and Naruto as equals so i don't have anything against either of them, but NB hates Sasuke so much that they ignore all fact about Sasuke.
 

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Sasuke is what he is not by choice..If naruto was in sasuke's place and faced everything that sasuke's been through I doubt naruto would still be such a sweet angel that he is now.
Its difficult for a child to see his whole clan and parents die..and on top of that his brother was the one who killed them..whatever the reasons were..he spent most of his life thinking Itachi was the reason he lost everything.
When he killed itachi, he came to realise it was konoha..his brother suffered equally..hence made a mistake by killing him when the real culprit is his own village where everyone hates the only person who lost everything for them..
He is bound to get his revenge with the littel knowledge he has..It would be questionable if he decided not to..any sane person(in manga) would do that..
 

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I'm a Naruto fan myself, but I have to agree with you on this. This whole good guy and bad guy crap has got to stop. Both are them aren't bad, but we cannot think that Naruto is good and Sasuke is evil. The only character that really should have a bad description is Orochimaru. :| I couldn't understand what you mean by dickriding, though. Are you mentioning about his fanbase? :confused:
 

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Does almost everyone here hates Sasuke that much? I'm pretty much new to it :confused:
 

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If u Sasuke fanboys justify Mass Murder, Betrayal etc and completely gloss over facts then ur obviously going to get riducled..... for example u said "Naruto actually met his mother and father. Did Sasuke get that privilege? No! He saw at least Itachi, but his parents have been absent and he might never see them unless Kishi plans to bring them in the story for a limited time." Now do u really need me to comment on that?

I myself sympathies with Sasuke but still disagree with his actions. I dislike only two things about Sasuke: First, He keeps pushing away love, friendship and a good future for the sake of the past . . . . Secondly, Despite all his powers he is manipulated a lot.

Anorien i don't like Sasuke more than Naruto, the same way i don't like Naruto more than Sasuke. I think i visualized them as equals. When Naruto Part I came into the show i liked Sasuke way more than Naruto, but in Part II i started to like Naruto even more to the point of equaling Sasuke. His actions aren't good, but he shouldn't get so much heat for it. Sasuke has been a tool of manipulation since the get go. The past haunts a lot of people, because they feel like something is missing to complete their beings. Sometimes you need to dig the past in order to move in the future. Besides Sasuke might be cold, but he has shown emotions and worry for both Naruto and Sakura when times got tough, but Sasuke just got tired of thinking about the past and not taking any action.
 

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Sasuke doesn't care what people think of him, neither should you he's not like Naruo who wants to be accepted by everyone. I like that he's evil and hope he stays that way, he's not about all that talkin like Naruto. He just doesn't give a shit and does what it takes to get the job done. Naruto's soft to me he let's his emotion get in his way of being a shinobi. He couldn't even kill the person who took his sensei away. Sasuke sets his mind on something and does whatever it takes to accomplish it and trys fcks up anyone who gets in his way. When he shows up on the battlefield it won't be many words said by him, it's the way Kishi made him.
 

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If u Sasuke fanboys justify Mass Murder, Betrayal etc and completely gloss over facts then ur obviously going to get riducled..... for example u said "Naruto actually met his mother and father. Did Sasuke get that privilege? No! He saw at least Itachi, but his parents have been absent and he might never see them unless Kishi plans to bring them in the story for a limited time." Now do u really need me to comment on that?

I myself sympathies with Sasuke but still disagree with his actions. I dislike only two things about Sasuke: First, He keeps pushing away love, friendship and a good future for the sake of the past . . . . Secondly, Despite all his powers he is manipulated a lot.

I agree Gara went through a lot worst than Sasuke and because he wasn't ignorant and actually listened to people he turned good unlike Sasuke who went all emo.
 

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Sasuke doesn't care what people think of him, neither should you he's not like Naruo who wants to be accepted by everyone. I like that he's evil and hope he stays that way, he's not about all that talkin like Naruto. He just doesn't give a shit and does what it takes to get the job done. Naruto's soft to me he let's his emotion get in his way of being a shinobi. He couldn't even kill the person who took his sensei away. Sasuke sets his mind on something and does whatever it takes to accomplish it and trys fcks up anyone who gets in his way. When he shows up on the battlefield it won't be many words said by him, it's the way Kishi made him.

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People barely compare their personalities on NB. People are usually comparing their power-ups, which is when Sasuke fanboys are pushed, because he is not nearly as strong as current Naruto. The statements you made are very biased, and trying to prove to Naruto fanboys that they are ignorant, when Sasuke fan boys can also be ignorant makes no sense. This thread is stupid and will not change anything so sitting there and crying about it is just a waste of your time. Say a Naruto fanboy said Sasuke is a better character, but is still weaker than Naruto just because he saw this thread. What have you accomplished? There's nothing special about being the best character in Naruto nor is there anything special about making people carry your point of view.
 

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Anorien i don't like Sasuke more than Naruto, the same way i don't like Naruto more than Sasuke. I think i visualized them as equals. When Naruto Part I came into the show i liked Sasuke way more than Naruto, but in Part II i started to like Naruto even more to the point of equaling Sasuke. His actions aren't good, but he shouldn't get so much heat for it. Sasuke has been a tool of manipulation since the get go. The past haunts a lot of people, because they feel like something is missing to complete their beings. Sometimes you need to dig the past in order to move in the future. Besides Sasuke might be cold, but he has shown emotions and worry for both Naruto and Sakura when times got tough, but Sasuke just got tired of thinking about the past and not taking any action.

Personally I think Naruto and Sasuke complete each other . . . . . . . . in my opinion they represent two different sides of the same thing.
 
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