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Part where he pushed the fox back to get its chakra? Cos none of the rasengans penetrated hes skin

If your refering to this then look a bit closer he pushed the fox back and took its chakra the ransenshuriken did not penetrate kuramas skin.

rasenshuriken weaken the kyuubi and will defeat him if naruto fires more i'm not saying rashenshuriken will penetrate, i said wrecked not penetrate. Rasenshuriken weakens the full kyuubi enough for naruto rip his chakra off it will defeat 4 tail kyuubi
 

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rasenshuriken weaken the kyuubi and will defeat him if naruto fires more i'm not saying rashenshuriken will penetrate, i said wrecked not penetrate. Rasenshuriken weakens the full kyuubi enough for naruto rip his chakra off it will defeat 4 tail kyuubi

Dont forget that the chakra thing happend in hes body and does not apply on Gin/Kin he cant rip their chakra out therefor ransenshuriken will just push them back but not really harm them in any way. Kurama looked beaten up after shuriken simply cos he ripped its chakra out which he cant do with Gin/Kin.
 

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Since Sasuke cant go without the word "Sharingan" or 'Uchiha' or 'revenge' or 'Itachi' and Madara cant go without the word "Sharingan" or 'Uchiha' or 'Hashirama' . . . . they too will be owned.
 
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Dont forget that the chakra thing happend in hes body and does not apply on Gin/Kin he cant rip their chakra out therefor ransenshuriken will just push them back but not really harm them in any way. Kurama looked beaten up after shuriken simply cos he ripped its chakra out which he cant do with Gin/Kin.

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1, the full real kyuubi is more durable than 4 tail fake kyuubi by far
2, if rasenshuriken can weaken the real full kyuubi it will defeat the 4 tail fake kyuubi whose durability pales in comparism to full real kyuubi
 

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1, the full real kyuubi is more durable than 4 tail fake kyuubi by far
2, if rasenshuriken can weaken the real full kyuubi it will defeat the 4 tail fake kyuubi whose durability pales in comparism to full real kyuubi

I just actually facepalmed... it never weakened real one... if you cant spot him ripping half of real ones chakra while ransenshuriken pushes him away then I cant really do anything. What happens when something loses half of their chakra or chakra overall? Yes they become tired windy and look beaten up. Now if he wouldnt have ripped half of kuramas chakra he would just fly back like he did with giant rasengans ;)
And 4 tails cloak grants you skin of real one and more tails you get more characteristics you gein from real one untill you actually become 9 tails itself. 4 tails skin is just as durable as real ones
But he might outlast the chakra Gin/Kin have after what they turn back to normal I think
 
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I just actually facepalmed... it never weakened real one... if you cant spot him ripping half of real ones chakra while ransenshuriken pushes him away then I cant really do anything. What happens when something loses half of their chakra or chakra overall? Yes they become tired windy and look beaten up. Now if he wouldnt have ripped half of kuramas chakra he would just fly back like he did with giant rasengans ;)
And 4 tails cloak grants you skin of real one and more tails you get more characteristics you gein from real one untill you actually become 9 tails itself. 4 tails skin is just as durable as real ones

did you just said 4 tail is just as durable as the full kyuubi? Did you read pain vs naruto fight? When he had to transform to 8 tail to overpower chibaku tensei? And which naruto are we talkin about here sm naruto? Kcm naruto? Or bm naruto?
 

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did you just said 4 tail is just as durable as the full kyuubi? Did you read pain vs naruto fight? When he had to transform to 8 tail to overpower chibaku tensei? And which naruto are we talkin about here sm naruto? Kcm naruto? Or bm naruto?

Yes in manga 4 tails cloak has proved that it is just as durable. However 4 tails power is nowhere near the real thing thats why naruto dipped deeper to get more power. Anyway I think we kinda went past topic by a mile xd
OP said that no matter sm or bm. Which means they wont transform to begin with. But if they would yea 4tails just as durable but in powers term 4tails is weak compared to more tails :rolleyes:
 

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Yes in manga 4 tails cloak has proved that it is just as durable. However 4 tails power is nowhere near the real thing thats why naruto dipped deeper to get more power. Anyway I think we kinda went past topic by a mile xd
OP said that no matter sm or bm. Which means they wont transform to begin with. But if they would yea 4tails just as durable but in powers term 4tails is weak compared to more tails :rolleyes:

then which attack can defeat 4 tail? And op is talking about naruto as a whole he didn't restrict naruto so naruto can transform whenever he like.
 

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then which attack can defeat 4 tail? And op is talking about naruto as a whole he didn't restrict naruto so naruto can transform whenever he like.

Thast the thing in manga they couldnt beat him after he went 4tails so they had to seal him. So if they transform naruto cant beat them untill they run out of kurama chakra but he can sure as hell push them back a lot while they are cloaked.
 

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Thast the thing in manga they couldnt beat him after he went 4tails so they had to seal him. So if they transform naruto cant beat them untill they run out of kurama chakra but he can sure as hell push them back a lot while they are cloaked.

so bm mode naruto vs 4 tail naruto who will win?
 

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so bm mode naruto vs 4 tail naruto who will win?

One who runs first out of kurama chakra. They cant kill eachother but naruto can push brothers to use more chakra and perhaps that way beat them
 

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wow, i actually meant they can take him out cause naruto is synonimous with a particular catch phrase, but if you wanna talk about raw battle, i still say the brothers will win, 2 kyubi chakra vs 1, they are gonna easily bombard and hurt him, plus they might actually have the ability to keep drawing chakra from naruto
 
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