Naruto's Bijuu Mode is stronger than Madara's Perfect Susanoo. (Manga Fact)

[MickNerks]

Some have a hard time accepting the fact that naruto in his tailed beast mode is greater/stronger/superior to madara's Perfect Susanoo. I will attempt to clear this up with use of the manga.

When Madara showed off his Perfect Susanoo to the kage's he firmly stated that his Perfect Susanoo had Power that is COMPARABLE to a bijuu or Bijuu only had power comparable to his susanoo.

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Now this allows us to process how strong perfect susanoo truely is, becuase it strength can be compaired to a bijuu. The challenge with this is that there are 9 bijuu's so how are we to tell which one is truely as strong as Perfect susanoo. We could easily say that Perfect susanoo only has the power up to the 7 or 8 tailed beast.

But then when i actually thought about it, i was reminded that it didnt matter what bijuu you compair PS to, becuase no matter how you look at it the naruto will always be stronger.

Jinchurikri that can fully control their beast are more powerful than the beast by itself. Together they have more knowledge, more chakra, more speed, more strength, overall the share everything. And the bijuu's power is better used thru the jinchuriki, i.e a small naruto able to used a full power TBB

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and Naruto utilizing all forms at once in Bijuu mode makes him stonger than karama alone

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With that being said, it doesnt matter which bijuu madara's Perfect Susanoo is as powerful as. Because at the end of the day Perfect Jin Naruto >>>>>> Wild Kurama.. So naruto with the strongest tailed beast will will always be stronger than any other bijuu.

This is basically what im saying.


Madara's PS = Bijuu
Naruto's BM >>> Bijuu 1-8
Naruto's BM > Bijuu 9


Thats all i have to say. i know that madara gang will deny every bit of this, but what can i do???


Its not my fault if they refuse to see reason

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[iSpeak the Truth]

You shouldnt trust the translation too much....

I agree though

 

[Zetsuen]

Okay first of all, you need to read the words carefully:

Madara is reffering to the ability to destroy creation, which Bijuus can also do.

He doesn't mean Bijuus = PS.

 

[Midday]

I agree, you could also mention his durability since he was able to block the Juubi's beam.

 

[Blaze Release]

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Madara wasnt necessarily comparing his susano to a bijuu but rather comparing his susano's destructive capabilities to that of a bijuu.
Those are two completely different statements, however whether his susano can go up against a bijuu is very possible.



What we basically have is the epitome of yin energy which is susano against the epitome of yang energy which is naruto's cloak.

I think they are roughly equal.

 

[Words of wisdom]

Bijuu means every bijuu there is.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

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Madara wasnt necessarily comparing his susano to a bijuu but rather comparing his susano's destructive capabilities to that of a bijuu.
Those are two completely different statements, however whether his susano can go up against a bijuu is very possible.



What we basically have is the epitome of yin energy which is susano against the epitome of yang energy which is naruto's cloak.

I think they are roughly equal.

Actually I took it too literally. I think he's^ right.

 

[MickNerks]

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Madara wasnt necessarily comparing his susano to a bijuu but rather comparing his susano's destructive capabilities to that of a bijuu.
Those are two completely different statements, however whether his susano can go up against a bijuu is very possible.



What we basically have is the epitome of yin energy which is susano against the epitome of yang energy which is naruto's cloak.

I think they are roughly equal.

Ahhh.. a new way to look at it. I do feel as though you are right..

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

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Madara wasnt necessarily comparing his susano to a bijuu but rather comparing his susano's destructive capabilities to that of a bijuu.
Those are two completely different statements, however whether his susano can go up against a bijuu is very possible.



What we basically have is the epitome of yin energy which is susano against the epitome of yang energy which is naruto's cloak.

I think they are roughly equal.

This is correct. Madara was comparing destructive force. We haven't seen much from PS other than a slice of one sword. It should have the same versatility of Madara's regular Susanoo with legs so it would be an interesting fight. Remember that PS is also physically larger than Naruto's BM, ridiculously so too. This adds to its defense due to it being a thicker mass of chakra.

 

[Frikid]

didn't read.

BM naruto can stay in it only for 8 minutes.

if PS's time limit is more, it is better otherwise BM.

 

[zinescience]

Nice fact,u proved ur point.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

and we have yet to see PS and itachis Susanoo be proven destructible so until shown i say Ps is = while itachis is Untsoppable!

 

[Vexorian]

Hold up. He didn't say that PS had power comparable to a PJ(Perfect Jinchuuriki), just a Bijuu. Meaning it's quite possible that PS is as strong as Kurama, without a Jinchuuriki. So I'll go one step above you, and say that the PS is equal to Kurama when he doesn't have a host.

As to Itachi's Susano'o.....Sasuke's is better. Why do I say this? Because Itachi coughs up blood as soon as he uses his. Therefore, his Susano'o fails.

We can presume that Perfect Susano'o is the strongest of them all, especially because it has legs. I'd bet my paycheck that he can move independently of PS.

But, it does bring up the question of where Mokuton stands in all this. Apparently, Mokuton is better than Kurama, PS, and all the rest of Madara's arsenal( - Rinegan techniques) combined.

 

[Jordanofthecloud]

"Only Bijuu have comparable power to THIS (perfect Susanoo)"

Bijuu = all nine of them

Perfect Susanoo = bijuu

They are every equal. Your naruto fan boy-ness doesnt increase naruto's power hahaha

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

I'd bet my paycheck

wow slow down with that !

 

[MickNerks]

didn't read.

BM naruto can stay in it only for 8 minutes.

if PS's time limit is more, it is better otherwise BM.

Edo madara can stay in it more because of unlimited chakra.. Rinnegan madara wouldnt be able to sustain all that power for a long period of time.

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

Hold up. He didn't say that PS had power comparable to a PJ(Perfect Jinchuuriki), just a Bijuu. Meaning it's quite possible that PS is as strong as Kurama, without a Jinchuuriki. So I'll go one step above you, and say that the PS is equal to Kurama when he doesn't have a host.

As to Itachi's Susano'o.....Sasuke's is better. Why do I say this? Because Itachi coughs up blood as soon as he uses his. Therefore, his Susano'o fails.

We can presume that Perfect Susano'o is the strongest of them all, especially because it has legs. I'd bet my paycheck that he can move independently of PS.

But, it does bring up the question of where Mokuton stands in all this. Apparently, Mokuton is better than Kurama, PS, and all the rest of Madara's arsenal( - Rinegan techniques) combined.

The reason that it is said that Jins are stronger than a Bijuu by itself is that they can use their own jutsu and because people thought that Bijuu are mindless beasts with no sense of strategy. Jins don't add to the "power" of Bijuu other than what their jutsus can do. Madara's Susanoo has been shown to be able to use at least one jutsu (the meteor one) and Sasuke has shown to be able to use jutsu inside of his Susanoo so it can be speculated that PS can either use jutsu in conjuction with the user or the user can still use jutsu inside of PS, which makes it similar to Jins.

All in all I think it comes down more to skill and strategy than actual power if Naruto went up against PS.

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

Edo madara can stay in it more because of unlimited chakra.. Rinnegan madara wouldnt be able to sustain all that power for a long period of time.

Naruto at least only has an 8 minute time limit in his BM so it evens out with a PS user with limited chakra.

 

[Turson]

Remember that PS is also physically larger than Naruto's BM, ridiculously so too. This adds to its defense due to it being a thicker mass of chakra.

Its higher, thats for sure, but I that difference in overall size is big.

 

[MickNerks]

"Only Bijuu have comparable power to THIS (perfect Susanoo)"

Bijuu = all nine of them

Perfect Susanoo = bijuu

They are every equal. Your naruto fan boy-ness doesnt increase naruto's power hahaha

Im not gonna call you ignorant, but i will ask you to re-read the OT. I already stated that madara = the Bijuu.. I also stated that naruto who is a Perfect Jin is stronger than all bijuu becuase he is a PJ to the strongest bijuu..

My point was that because PJ naruto >> Wild Kurama (strongest Bijuu), that PJ naruto would also be stonger or more powerful than PS madara.