Naruto without the Nine-Tails

[Hitashi]

Even in the last fight Naruto was fighting without any special mode in the beginning , but Sasuke had his sharingan that's why he was dominating Naruto in the beginning
Other than that Naruto could had even used his SM but he didn't
Until the SOSP mode Naruto was not even using any special power besides his favourite Rasengan n clones

 

[To Whatever]

how is this 8 pages?

 

[LightSo6p]

No it wouldn't. Sasuke still stalemated Naruto despite using a weaker jutsu.

When Sasuke and Naruto were equals at the roof-top, Naruto's Rasengan would've blazed through Chidori. At VoTE, Sasuke statemated Naruto despite this handicap meaning that the only logical conclusion as to why that is was because Sasuke grew stronger which means that he had to have surpassed Naruto and this remained consistent even with CS2 Sasuke vs. KN1 Naruto.

Of course he grew in strength that's obvious. The sasuke that fought naurto on the rooftop was weaker at that time the reason he left ,the one at vote took the awakening pill which boosts his power he and naruto said it, and sasuke didn't use a weaker jutsu it was just weaker on the rooftop at that time because naruto had more chakra

 

[whiteboy2345]

Well, I honestly thought this thread was going to be a flop but look at this..

 

[NarutoX28]

Of course he grew in strength that's obvious. The sasuke that fought naurto on the rooftop was weaker at that time the reason he left ,the one at vote took the awakening pill which boosts his power he and naruto said it, and sasuke didn't use a weaker jutsu it was just weaker on the rooftop at that time because naruto had more chakra

They were both illustrated to be of equal strength and the nature of Rasengan denotes superiority over Sasuke's Chidori. The fact that Sasuke voices out his frustration and was unnerved by Naruto's power only after the Rasengan suggests that everything that preceded that was equivalent to rivaled power.

Afterwards, Sasuke improved via the pill (which we agree on),

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, and they still stalemated. Sasuke only stalemated Naruto because he was stronger and this remained consistent with CS2 Sasuke and KN1 Naruto. Therefore, CS2 Sasuke > KN1 Naruto applies.

 

[LightSo6p]

They were both illustrated to be of equal strength and the nature of Rasengan denotes superiority over Sasuke's Chidori. The fact that Sasuke voices out his frustration and was unnerved by Naruto's power only after the Rasengan suggests that everything that preceded that was equivalent to rivaled power.

Afterwards, Sasuke improved via the pill (which we agree on),

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, and they still stalemated. Sasuke only stalemated Naruto because he was stronger and this remained consistent with CS2 Sasuke and KN1 Naruto. Therefore, CS2 Sasuke > KN1 Naruto applies.

I know they were equal and strength not and chakra though, after the pill sasuke chakra took a major boost plus the fact that the curse mark was pumping him with sm chakra which is another boost only to stalemate with a rasengan should tell you that they were still equal probably not in taijutsu but and chakra prowess yeah , but we don't really know they never got to fight soon as sasuke went into CS2 the fight ended before they did anything so CS2 is stronger then kn1 just speculation on your put

 

[Konoha Orange Spark]

How would he have fared against Sasuke at the Valley Of The End, in part one?

Sasuke in this scenario has no curse-mark.

And Naruto has no access to any Nine-Tails chakra at all.


In my opinion, I found him lacking at the beginning of the fight when he wasn't using Nine-Tails chakra, all of his attacks were read through and countered by Sasuke and his only chance at winning was through Rasengan or Shadow-clone spam. Despite the fact that he initiated the fight, he had to tap into a foreign source twice in order to come close to winning.

And don't say Naruto was "holding back", if his only way to bring Sasuke back was through using so much power that he would end up killing Sasuke, then he's not really all that strong on his own merit is he?

He would grow up with big respect and acceptance among the villagers. not that he would be spoiled or anything.
HE WOULD BE SAME AS KAKASHI. A GENIUS WHO COULD USE UP TO FOUR ELEMENTS AT THAT AGE WHICH WILL GIVE HIM AN ADVANTAGE OVER SASUKE

 

[whiteboy2345]

He would grow up with big respect and acceptance among the villagers. not that he would be spoiled or anything.
HE WOULD BE SAME AS KAKASHI. A GENIUS WHO COULD USE UP TO FOUR ELEMENTS AT THAT AGE WHICH WILL GIVE HIM AN ADVANTAGE OVER SASUKE

I don't know what fanfiction you were reading before you got here but try to remember that it's fanfiction and nothing more. The Nine-tails didn't make Naruto stupid, but it did mess with his chakra control.

Naruto doesn't have four elements, seeing as though when he touched the chakra paper it only split in half signifying his Wind Nature. Just because he wouldn't have the Nine-Tails, doesn't mean he'd be a genius or a prodigy.

 

[LightSo6p]

I don't know what fanfiction you were reading before you got here but try to remember that it's fanfiction and nothing more. The Nine-tails didn't make Naruto stupid, but it did mess with his chakra control.

Naruto doesn't have four elements, seeing as though when he touched the chakra paper it only split in half signifying his Wind Nature. Just because he wouldn't have the Nine-Tails, doesn't mean he'd be a genius or a prodigy.

Hashirmara was stated to act just like naruto when he was younger and look how he turned out, still act like naruto but stronger then almostly everyone

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Naruto is fodder and thats how it is... and these mother ****ing faptards can blow it

Your fav is Naruto's pet now so go cry somewhere else.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Hashirmara was stated to act just like naruto when he was younger and look how he turned out, still act like naruto but stronger then almostly everyone

Hashirama was a prodigy and a genius, but was also goofy. They are alike in some respects but not entirely.

 

[UnknownJin]

I dont know why the **** u quoting, like i said...

Yeah I can see that..

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wow... some kids are srsly butthurt around here... Wakes up after a month from coma and takes a fight ... w.e... wont even argue here, now stay mad freak and get rekt -

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Your fav is Naruto's pet now so go cry somewhere else.

 

[NarutoX28]

I know they were equal and strength not and chakra though, after the pill sasuke chakra took a major boost plus the fact that the curse mark was pumping him with sm chakra which is another boost only to stalemate with a rasengan should tell you that they were still equal probably not in taijutsu but and chakra prowess yeah , but we don't really know they never got to fight soon as sasuke went into CS2 the fight ended before they did anything so CS2 is stronger then kn1 just speculation on your put

Well holistically, you've essentially proven that Sasuke was superior to Naruto. If Sasuke = Naruto and then received another boost to match his Rasengan, that means that Sasuke had to have surpassed Naruto to match Naruto's Rasengan. The only difference is that your premise entails that Sasuke needed to surpass Naruto to obtain equivalent chakra potency/volume in respect to Naruto's Rasengan, but this doesn't discredit that Sasuke was flat-out stronger, holistically speaking.

It's not speculation. You even affirmed that Sasuke needed to grow stronger than Naruto to develop his own chakra to match his Rasengan and this was congruous with CS2 Sasuke and KN1 Naruto. Most of what you claimed is superfluous information in all honesty. If anything, CS2 Sasuke being amplified by Senjutsu Chakra (absent in P1) gives me every reason to believe CS2 Sasuke was stronger.

Simplistically:

1. If Sasuke = Naruto, Rasengan > Chidori.
2. If Sasuke > Naruto, Chidori > or = Rasengan.

CS2 Sasuke's clash with KN1 Naruto pertains to the 2nd conditional because Sasuke's power relative to Naruto and Chidori's power relative to Rasengan are not mutually exclusive. CS2 Sasuke has to be stronger than KN1 Naruto in order for Chidori to match its power, this is conspicuously shown. This shouldn't even require a critical analysis, this is basic common sense.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

I dont know why the **** u quoting, like i said...

And now he's Naruto's pet lol.

 

[King Of Pop]

u say exhausted mean nothing k

yes because naruto flat out admitted he was weak after that encounter. he didnt attribute the stomping sasuke gave him to any exhaustion like you are trying to do. he was inferior and him being fresh would have changed nothing

 

[LightSo6p]

Well holistically, you've essentially proven that Sasuke was superior to Naruto. If Sasuke = Naruto and then received another boost to match his Rasengan, that means that Sasuke had to have surpassed Naruto to match Naruto's Rasengan. The only difference is that your premise entails that Sasuke needed to surpass Naruto to obtain equivalent chakra potency/volume in respect to Naruto's Rasengan, but this doesn't discredit that Sasuke was flat-out stronger, holistically speaking.

It's not speculation. You even affirmed that Sasuke needed to grow stronger than Naruto to develop his own chakra to match his Rasengan and this was congruous with CS2 Sasuke and KN1 Naruto. Most of what you claimed is superfluous information in all honesty. If anything, CS2 Sasuke being amplified by Senjutsu Chakra (absent in P1) gives me every reason to believe CS2 Sasuke was stronger.

Simplistically:

1. If Sasuke = Naruto, Rasengan > Chidori.
2. If Sasuke > Naruto, Chidori > or = Rasengan.

CS2 Sasuke's clash with KN1 Naruto pertains to the 2nd conditional because Sasuke's power relative to Naruto and Chidori's power relative to Rasengan are not mutually exclusive. CS2 Sasuke has to be stronger than KN1 Naruto in order for Chidori to match its power, this is conspicuously shown. This shouldn't even require a critical analysis, this is basic common sense.

Why do sasuke got to be stronger then naruto to match his rasengan though?? It was just a regular rasengan both are A-rank why can't they be be equal and match?

 

[NarutoX28]

Why do sasuke got to be stronger then naruto to match his rasengan though?? It was just a regular rasengan both are A-rank why can't they be be equal and match?

Because when Sasuke was equal to Naruto, his Chidori paled in comparison and the only thing that could rectify that was through the power he obtained through the pill as illustrated in their VoTE clash.

 

[LightSo6p]

Because when Sasuke was equal to Naruto, his Chidori paled in comparison and the only thing that could rectify that was through the power he obtained through the pill as illustrated in their VoTE clash.

So you think sasuke and naruto was equal in chakra on the rooftop when they fought? The pill just didn't boost his chakra either it boost every aspect speed durability strenght who knows what else.

 

[NarutoX28]

So you think sasuke and naruto was equal in chakra on the rooftop when they fought? The pill just didn't boost his chakra either it boost every aspect speed durability strenght who knows what else.

I'm not sure why this is relevant.

 

[LightSo6p]

I'm not sure why this is relevant.

Because you said they were equal, I just want to know if you think they was equal in chakra before vote because you know chakra is what make attacks strong and if one is lacking the attack will pale in comparison