Naruto without Kurama

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So...K11 can beat Pain?

SM Naruto is without a doubt Kage level, he took out 3rd Raikage and he can beat pretty much any kage

sage mode was defeated if it wasn't for kurama(6tails burst) and (8 tails) when pain did CT, not only that, minato saved naruto aswell in that fight. pain > sage mode naruto.

but you right about the 3rd raikage part, sm is kage level. but at the same time we can't say sage mode beat the 3rd raikage either. since naruto had help in that fight and was using KCM aswell.
 

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Why wouldn't sasuke awaken his dojutsu...the kyuubi isn't a natural part of Naruto it's not like a clan lineage thing. Plus naruto's concept is teamwork so he works with the kyuubi but sasuke's is alone. Sasuke really has you rustled today XD. The truth stands that Naruto would nor be able to beat sasuke or moreover tie him without the kyuubi.

Idk but I'm pretty sure that curse mark sasuke would be pretty powerful against SM Naruto #stayrustled. All I said was that Naruto would be weaker than sasuke, excuse me for speaking manga facts. If Naruto was a senju he'd naturally equal sasuke without the kyuubi but he's a hybrid uzumaki so yeah. Let's not forget Naruto can only maintain safe mode for five minutes cursed mark v2 is longer than that so there you have it.

Lmao, taking away something from Naruto but when somebody takes away sasky's power, you gets so upset and write another wall of text, jesus christ, you even reported me in the other thread.

Anyway, we both know that sasky without doujutsu loses to SM Naruto.
 

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I thought you were gonna bash Naruto since you are a Sasuke fan. Lol

Ah, I see. I honestly don't like him as a character. Not at all. But I can't deny that he's both talented and strong even without Kurama.
 

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He'd be pretty powerful
kabuto said he'd be a monster if naruto mastered his chakra use and this was after oro put the five part seal on him to stop kuramas chakra from mixing with his
 

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pain > sage mode naruto.
Naruto couldn't merge with the frogs without Kyuubi, if he didn't have them, he would be able to have on SM all the time and that way he would've beaten Pain without any help from Kyuubi
 

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Ah, I see. I honestly don't like him as a character. Not at all. But I can't deny that he's both talented and strong even without Kurama.

That's true. That Pein arc fight is a great example of that. When he entered Sage mode he was not really using Kurama's help.
 

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So...K11 can beat Pain?

SM Naruto is without a doubt Kage level, he took out 3rd Raikage and he can beat pretty much any kage

You mean AFTER his borrowed chakra from the kyuubi and exploiting the weak spot that the third raikage had on his body as said by the hachibi? Third raikage was giving Naruto the work and Naruto could've been fatally wounded if the rubber guy (forget his name) didn't interfere, of course he's kage level but that doesn't make him invincible not saying that you said he is but LOL no, five kages together neg SM Naruto. I bet even gaaea could mid diff him XD. You're hyping him too much I will give SM Naruto credit for the pain thing but didn't a cloak Naruto get negged by an original body pain? The six peins aren't even the original pein so their power is lower.
 

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sage mode was defeated if it wasn't for kurama(6tails burst) and (8 tails) when pain did CT, not only that, minato saved naruto aswell in that fight. pain > sage mode naruto.

but you right about the 3rd raikage part, sm is kage level. but at the same time we can't say sage mode beat the 3rd raikage either. since naruto had help in that fight and was using KCM aswell.

without kyuubi he would have been able to merge with the great toad sages wouldnt have a time limit on his sage mode
 

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You mean AFTER his borrowed chakra from the kyuubi and exploiting the weak spot that the third raikage had on his body as said by the hachibi? Third raikage was giving Naruto the work and Naruto could've been fatally wounded if the rubber guy (forget his name) didn't interfere, of course he's kage level but that doesn't make him invincible not saying that you said he is but LOL no, five kages together neg SM Naruto. I bet even gaaea could mid diff him XD. You're hyping him too much I will give SM Naruto credit for the pain thing but didn't a cloak Naruto get negged by an original body pain? The six peins aren't even the original pein so their power is lower.

I wonder if Sasky can take out Pain or 3rd raikage without Doujutsu?

Anyway, If Naruto didn't have Kyuubi inside him when he fought Pain, he would've been able to have SM on all the time = Easy win for him.

As for the 3rd, i give you that, he did get saved by the rubber dude but that doesn't change that he took him out did it?
 

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Easily high kage level, probably even more given sufficient time to hone his skills.
 

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He would still be on a league of his own. Just without TB powers. But I am not sure if he'll be the same person without Kurama.
 

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Lmao, taking away something from Naruto but when somebody takes away sasky's power, you gets so upset and write another wall of text, jesus christ, you even reported me in the other thread.

Anyway, we both know that sasky without doujutsu loses to SM Naruto.

Because I definitely didn't say curse mark V2 please read more closely XD curse mark LV2 sasuke would hold out against Naruto and beat him down after the five minute limit expires. And this is assuming without clones, Curse mark would fight on equal footing with sage mode and sasuke has shown what he is capable of with CM lv2 without sharnningan. and I didn't take anything away from Naruto...the TC asked the question so technically TC did...you're the one that is taking away powers here lmao. Sasuke just can't stop rustling your jimmies XD
 

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Considering his parents would also be alive. He would probably learn some Uzamaki seals just like his father.
 

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Because I definitely didn't say curse mark V2 please read more closely XD curse mark LV2 sasuke would hold out against Naruto and beat him down after the five minute limit expires. And this is assuming without clones, Curse mark would fight on equal footing with sage mode and sasuke has shown what he is capable of with CM lv2 without sharnningan. and I didn't take anything away from Naruto...the TC asked the question so technically TC did...you're the one that is taking away powers here lmao. Sasuke just can't stop rustling your jimmies XD

How am i the one taking away the powers lmao, this thread is about how Naruto would be without Kyuubi, then you said that he would be weaker than Sasky because naruto has no bijuu, to make it fair, i took away sasky's dojutsu, im not the ruslted one, you are seeing as you type a wall of text on each reply.

Also, CM Sasky stands no chance against SM Naruto, he gets low diffed.

but then he woulda died.

lol wat how?
 
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Because I definitely didn't say curse mark V2 please read more closely XD curse mark LV2 sasuke would hold out against Naruto and beat him down after the five minute limit expires. And this is assuming without clones, Curse mark would fight on equal footing with sage mode and sasuke has shown what he is capable of with CM lv2 without sharnningan. and I didn't take anything away from Naruto...the TC asked the question so technically TC did...you're the one that is taking away powers here lmao. Sasuke just can't stop rustling your jimmies XD

The fact that sasuke was able to control the curse mark was because he was an uchiha and had already awakened sharingan, you have no proof to support your theory bruh, i'm so srry to interrupt Lol.
 

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Sennin Modo, potentially FTG, summonings, more versatile wind techniques, sealing jutsu (because without Kurama, his mother and father would be alive and Asuma could have still taught him to use Fuuton) and potentially Kenjutsu if he decided to really train deeply with Jiraiya since Jiraiya wouldn't have to focus on Naruto's chakra control for the majority of the time. So still High Kage level.
 

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Sennin Modo, potentially FTG, summonings, more versatile wind techniques, sealing jutsu (because without Kurama, his mother and father would be alive and Asuma could have still taught him to use Fuuton) and potentially Kenjutsu if he decided to really train deeply with Jiraiya since Jiraiya wouldn't have to focus on Naruto's chakra control for the majority of the time. So still High Kage level.

he would be no competition for rinne sasuke though.
 
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