Naruto "without kurama" -_-

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Please stop with the b.s.. How can people take away from naruto's character claiming "he'd be fodder without kurama"

For one...I'm not even going to go.into.Naruto's potential without kurama since that's all opinion based and fanfic . Anyway....without kurama...there would be no naruto. The whole theme of Naruto's character revolved around his loneliness due to being a jinchouriki which was tough. Without kurama the central theme of the manga would be "get sasuke back.....that's it....." how boring!!!

The simple fact that kurama caused Naruto to suck at molding chakra...yet he gradually mastered high level techs like multi shadow clones...rasengan....summonings..sage mode...Come on guys ...Naruto without kurama is still pretty high tier . How about giving him credit for being able to handle and perfectly manipulate the chakra of the strongest tailed beast aside from the juubi without destroying everything and everyone in.sight. pretty nice feat .

Disclaimer : Although my thread is 100% true .....I still believe Naruto loses most of the fights he had if kurama wasn't present. Lol
 
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Naruto without Kurama has sage mode in his arsenal. Which is MS Sasuke level.
 

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lol at you bringing up 2012 arguments..
 

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I thought we were all passed these types of arguments?
 
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You're letting the retards get to you too much. There was another thread like this yesterday.
 

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Naruto without Kurama has sage mode in his arsenal. Which is MS Sasuke level.

LOL. He actually has RSM without Kurama. I think too many ppl forget about that fact.
 

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Naruto would get rekt every fight if it wasn't for the Kyuubi. He's Ashuras reincarnate so he needs help to defeat his opponents, mangafact.
 
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This still applies for Sasuke and his sharingan too but that's none of my business :coffee: Itachi and Deidera utterly molest him. Kage rekt him before but without MS...ohh boy...
 

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Who cares ? He was born to be jinchuriki. Kurama is a part of his power. Only haters *cough Sasuke fans cough* still whining about this.
 

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Naruto would get rekt every fight if it wasn't for the Kyuubi. He's Ashuras reincarnate so he needs help to defeat his opponents, mangafact.

He defeated 3rd Raikage with just SM.
He also defeated 5 pain bodies with just SM.

He is kage level without the Kyubi.
 

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He defeated 3rd Raikage with just SM.
He also defeated 5 pain bodies with just SM.

He is kage level without the Kyubi.

He got supported by the Shinobi Alliance when he fought the 3rd. Again he didn't win on his own.
So? He needed the Kyubi to defeat Pain in the end.
 

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He got supported by the Shinobi Alliance when he fought the 3rd. Again he didn't win on his own.
We're talking about Kurama. Not whether he is fighting with other people or not.
Did he use Kurama? No, he didn't.

So? He needed the Kyubi to defeat Pain in the end.
He still defeated 5 of them without him.
 

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yeah i agee with ya
 

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We're talking about Kurama. Not whether he is fighting with other people or not.
Did he use Kurama? No, he didn't.


He still defeated 5 of them without him.

Half of the fight he was in KCM plus that doesn't change the fact of my statement, he can't do shit on his own.

So what? The main body completely rekt him.
 
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Half of the fight he was in KCM plus that doesn't change the fact of my statement, he can't do shit on his own.

So what? The main body completely rekt him.

All that was needed to beat the raikage was a rasengan to re-direct the spear and SM for increased reflexes. Your argument is invalid.

The alliance got fodderized and just watched for the most part as even Temari couldn't scratch raikage.
 

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Naruto would be Kage Level without the Kyuubi with Sage Mode, plus he could always use Shadow Clones to gain experience/knowledge faster with any training he does, thus being way above the norm.

Naruto is definitely not fodder without the Kyuubi, but he has relied on the Kyuubi alot throughout the whole story, such as against Neji, and Gaara, when he ran out of hakra, he simply told or asked the Kyuubi for some of his, thus allowing him to continue fighting.

Pointing out the Kyuubi's help shouldn't be a problem, Naruto himself acknowledges the Kyuubi, and sees him as more than a powersource. It's just that some fans want to act like Naruto does everything without giving the Kyuubi credit for anything, so they complain whenever he's brought up.

The Kyuubi did interfere with Naruto's chakra control, but due to Naruto being an Uzumaki, he has massive amounts of chakra, alot more than others, and the Kyuubi's chakra naturally healed Naruto thus allowing him to recovery faster, and train longer.

The good outweighed the bad, if Naruto applied himself more than he could have excelled all the time, such as when he mastered the Kage Bunshin, A Jonin Level technique, in hours.

If Naruto developed his own skills/power more, than he would be greater.

Who cares ? He was born to be jinchuriki. Kurama is a part of his power. Only haters *cough Sasuke fans cough* still whining about this.

Lol, you're always trying to pick fights....from being a fan of Naruto for years, you should have atleast learned from him to try to reason with people instead of instigate trouble...
 
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The problem is it is not possible for a human to be born with a Bijuu, that why human and a Bijuu can't be considered the same power source.

In Naruto anyone can be a Jinchuuriki, it all depends if the Human and the Bijuu gets along or not.

As for Kekkei Genkai that is something they are either born with or they not, just like how some people are taller or shorter, talented or less talented, higher IQ or less IQ etc.

Kekkei genkai is normal, while being a Jinchuuriki is not normal.
 
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