We are saying he can't win without intel, plus if Hinata's death didn't cause the Kyubi rampage he would have lostYes but this is a conversation for the one piece section but go back to the 6th post and try and understand it...I don't...it doesn't make sense...he says naruto can't beat pain but that already happened so idk if he is retarded or just trolling around tryin to piss people off
If he didn't knew that Preta path absorbed chakra, he wouldn't have been able to turn him to stone, If the didn't know Naraka path ability he wouldn't have targeted him directly and pain would have kept reviving his bodies and Naruto would be dead before he's get it