Naruto will never surpass Minato, & Sasuke will never surpass Itachi

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The title has nothing to do the thread yet people are commenting "They already did".

A pretty good thread Blaze, it clears up many misconceptions people have when ranking Naruto and Sasuke against their respective villages. The point you raised about Sasuke being born earlier wasn't something i immediately considered, an impressive find yet again.

Maybe Sasuke will surpass Madara not through a new Doijutsu but rather a combination of Perfect Susann'o and Enton Kagutsuchi

This in turn basically says that madara was older than hashirama. I do believe that sasuke would have no trouble molding enton around ps however i believe that would still put him roughly on ems madara and will need something more to go above ems madara
 

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Sorry for not reading before. In the last 2 days 85% of the threads I saw was about Minato and Itachi>Naruto and Sasuke so I judged yours out of annoyance. Bad form on my part.

Good thread.
 

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Yes I've figured this out a while ago. I have question do you think MS Obito can beat Nagato? If so that means his MS abilities put him above Nagato even tho we know who's has more power. Same can be said about Sasuke EMS once we see what it can do, so he doesn't necessarily have to get he Rinnegan to be above Nagato. Guess we'll have to see what power Sasuke holds in his eyes, for Obito to say he could potentially surpass Nagato

Im not answering whether ms obito can beat nagato because this isnt a vs thread :p. True sasuke might not need the rinnegan to surpass nagato however i believe this statement is a foreshadowing of sasuke's power, but also tobi commented that he wanted to sync sasuke with mazo. As the latest chapter has revealed in order for this to happen the person would need both abilities of the two respective clans and this in turn basically means the rinnegan
 

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If you dont believe Naruto and Sasuke will continue to surpass there entity's then you are only denying yourself.
 

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This was a good read. Even though I've already felt this way for awhile now. It just makes sense that it is this way.
 

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If any what you say can be put like this.

Goku was a stepping stone for Gohan. And yet he was the only one to beat Cell while his father could not. Does that mean he surpassed his father?
 

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Im not answering whether ms obito can beat nagato because this isnt a vs thread :p. True sasuke might not need the rinnegan to surpass nagato however i believe this statement is a foreshadowing of sasuke's power, but also tobi commented that he wanted to sync sasuke with mazo. As the latest chapter has revealed in order for this to happen the person would need both abilities of the two respective clans and this in turn basically means the rinnegan

Yea he ''wanted'' to now he has control of the Gedo Mazo, ofcourse back then we can say Sasuke was still working with Obito. Things might have change now, but Obito has Hashirama DNA in his layer so Sasuke could've awaken the Rinnegan if he would've merged it with his body somehow
 

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If any what you say can be put like this.

Goku was a stepping stone for Gohan. And yet he was the only one to beat Cell while his father could not. Does that mean he surpassed his father?
Actually Goku could have beaten Cell... He said he didn't because he wanted Gohan to save the world(and the fact that Gohan had potential that needed to be unlocked). He did the same thing vs Majin Buu. He could have beaten Buu on two different occasions but decided it would be best for the others to do it because the world relied too much on him or something of that nature. I know with Kid Buu Goku said he didn't kill him in SS3 because he wanted Vegeta to have a turn vs him and by the time he really had to kill him Goku ran out of power. All in all, Gohan was suppose to surpass Goku and be the main character of DBZ after Goku died but the fans didn't like that decision so they decided that Goku should remain the hero.
 

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If any what you say can be put like this.

Goku was a stepping stone for Gohan. And yet he was the only one to beat Cell while his father could not. Does that mean he surpassed his father?

He had surpass goku for moment during that time
 

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Ok You should have added SO6P as finaly benchmark. We all know theyr gona surpass ems madara and hashi. Its been hinted when kakashi said theyr similar to both. So you are right. Just add SO6P as final becnhmark.
 

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Ok You should have added SO6P as finaly benchmark. We all know theyr gona surpass ems madara and hashi. Its been hinted when kakashi said theyr similar to both. So you are right. Just add SO6P as final becnhmark.

Im not too sure about the sage
 

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xD blaze does not Seize to amaze, For real all this people are commenting about naruto & sasuke surpassing minato/itachi but the danm thread is not about that!.. for god sake people really needs to learn how to READ.
 

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A Blaze Release thread? I thought these things had gone extinct, a little late to the party but I'll give my two cents. I liked how you made the connection of how because Sasuke was born first that he represents the older son, I never thought of that. I'd be willing to bet that Naruto has surpassed Hashirama but that's for a different thread, also I don't think Sasuke will ever come close to surpassing Madara, but it would get a lot closer though if he gets PS.
 

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I didn't read yet I agree that both haven't surpassed itachi nor minato yet.
 

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I think you pointed out the obvious (On Hashirama and Madara), at least for me. Good points and well explained I did read your thread. First I didn't know what definition of medium you were using but I have one that fits with the context you are putting in it.
 
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Naruto has already surpassed Minato, Sasuke surpassing Itachi on the other hand, ehh not quite yet. He didnt do much in the fight against Kabuto and the only thing he actualy killed was fodder white Zetsu.
 

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Naruto has already surpassed Minato, Sasuke surpassing Itachi on the other hand, ehh not quite yet. He didnt do much in the fight against Kabuto and the only thing he actualy killed was fodder white Zetsu.

Are you dyslexic?
Read the OP and you will realise why this thread doesn't revolve around the idea of naruto and sasuke surpassing minato and itachi.

I didn't read yet I agree that both haven't surpassed itachi nor minato yet.

minato has been surpassed.

Are you two also dyslexic and in need of lessons on how to read the OP

so many thick heads that come on to a hot thread only to fire off their irrelevant opinions about the thread, based on what the title read... If only people learned to read the OP


I agree 100% with this thread, but i do not want sasuke getting the rinnegan because im getting sick of seeing it, what i wanna see is sasuke with the elder sons eyes. that would be interesting otherwise getting the rinnegan is too dull and borring.

P.S. im no sasuke fanboy, i favor itachi the most over any character tho i do not believe he could beat any character, cause thats DIEHARD level. i only like the fact that he made the most sense(I know his life didn't make sense in some ways) and was(in my mind) the smartest and wisest
 

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Naruto has by far surpassed his father, minato the 4th hokage but sasuke....its debatebale...sure his gone even beyond the MS, with his EMS but like we've not really seen what he can do...but in my opinion sasuke has surpassed ...his got itachi's abiltiies + other one possible as well...??
 
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