[Predictions] Naruto will get the Rinnegan

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

I believe those people have trouble comprehending the manga.The Senju and Uchiha Clan are descendants of the Sage's sons, the Uzumaki clan is the cousin clan of the Senju;Meaning, the Sage's son weren't Senju or Uchiha, but there descendants became known as Senju and Uchiha; From that information, we know that the Sage couldn't be an Uzumaki because the Uzumakis didn't exist.



As for the main topic, Naruto isn't getting the rinnegan.The Rinnegan requires Senju DNA and the Uchiha Sharingan.Naruto doesn't have either of those things.The rinnegan doesn't have anything to do with Biju, which is obvious seeing as the Sage had the Rinnegan before he became the jinchuriki of the ten tails.

All that was said in relation to Uzumaki and Senju was that they were distantly related, there was nothing said regarding when the two clans broke apart or became separate, my theory involves the possibility that they separated with the Sage. Please show me Manga scans that tell you the Uzumaki clan didnt exist around the time of the sage - all we are told is that they are a very old clan - further adding weight to me theory.

I already posted a response to the Uchiha/Senju DNA problem but here it is again.


Sorry I don't mean to be rude, but where in the manga does it say that Senju and Uchiha dna is the ONLY way to get the Rinnegan for all we know there could be another way. For instance there are two ways to use the Rasengan; 1 handed or with clones. There are also many ways to achieve the MS, Madara got it by killing his best friend, while Sasuke got it by hearing of his brothers life serving the Village.

If you see my point claiming that combining Uchiha and Senju DNA is the only way to get the Rinnegan is being narrow minded

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Sorry I don't mean to be rude, but where in the manga does it say that Senju and Uchiha dna is the ONLY way to get the Rinnegan for all we know there could be another way. For instance there are two ways to use the Rasengan; 1 handed or with clones. There are also many ways to achieve the MS, Madara got it by killing his best friend, while Sasuke got it by hearing of his brothers life serving the Village.

If you see my point claiming that combining Uchiha and Senju DNA is the only way to get the Rinnegan is being narrow minded

Sorry, I do mean to be ruded, where in the manga does it state there is another way to gain the rinnegan other than with Senju DNA and Uchiha Sharingan? The manga has only shown one way, not including stealing the rinnegan eyes, so until it shows another way, there is only one way.As for your example of different ways one can acheived certain jutsus or dojutsu is not even comparable to gaining the rinnegan and they are wrong.Madara didn't killed his bestfriend to gain his MS, seeing as Hashirama was his bestfriend(Try reading the manga).Sasuke MS was awaken not by hearing about his brother life in the village.Tobi didn't tell him about Itachi's school work and dating habits.Sasuke awaken his MS because of extreme emotion reaction to hearing his brother, who just died after their battle, was force to killed his clan.

Please show me Manga scans that tell you the Uzumaki clan didnt exist around the time of the sage - all we are told is that they are a very old clan - further adding weight to me theory.

I already posted a response to the Uchiha/Senju DNA problem but here it is again.

Manga Scan..Can you comprehend? If the Uzumaki Clan is the cousin clan of the Senju, how could they have existed during the Sages era? The Senju clan are descendants of the younger son, this is a fact.Meaning, the younger son wasn't a Senju.If the Uzumaki's are a cousin clan of the Senju, how could they have existed before even the Senju existed?

 

[NamikazeUzumakiNaruto]

I really want him to have it to,
But WE have to face the COLD DEAD TRUTH
1. the sage was not an uzumaki
2. Nagato got his eyes from Madera

 

[Styles]

I agree with this, but Sasuke won't be on the same level as Naruto, he will be a bit lower.

Like Goku and Vegeta XD

sadly goku and Vegeta was never close in power Goku was far ahead of Vegeta from the way it looked
OT not saying your wrong just kinda hard for me to believe that he will get it

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

Sorry, I do mean to be ruded, where in the manga does it state there is another way to gain the rinnegan other than with Senju DNA and Uchiha Sharingan? The manga has only shown one way, not including stealing the rinnegan eyes, so until it shows another way, there is only one way.As for your example of different ways one can acheived certain jutsus or dojutsu is not even comparable to gaining the rinnegan and they are wrong.Madara didn't killed his bestfriend to gain his MS, seeing as Hashirama was his bestfriend(Try reading the manga).Sasuke MS was awaken not by hearing about his brother life in the village.Tobi didn't tell him about Itachi's school work and dating habits.Sasuke awaken his MS because of extreme emotion reaction to hearing his brother, who just died after their battle, was force to killed his clan.




Manga Scan..Can you comprehend? If the Uzumaki Clan is the cousin clan of the Senju, how could they have existed during the Sages era? The Senju clan are descendants of the younger son, this is a fact.Meaning, the younger son wasn't a Senju.If the Uzumaki's are a cousin clan of the Senju, how could they have existed before even the Senju existed?

They aren't a cousin clan, they are simply distantly related. And lets say for arguments sake, the Uzumaki were cousins with the Senju's,why couldn't the Senju's be a branch of the Uzumaki's? There is no evidence to suggest which came first. We are told Senju's started with the Sage while the Uzumaki's are very old.

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

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B1: Wrong. They are not a cousin clan, they are "distant relatives.

B2: Sage's Sons are the Progenitors of the Senju and Uchiha clans, inherently meaning; they are Senju and Uchiha.

B3: Mere speculation. You have no proof to back that up because it is never stated in the manga that he was born with the Rinnegan. Also, mind to explain how a human is born with the eyes of the God of the Narutoverse? Oh that's right... You can't.

Don't say people calling the Sage an Uzumaki can't comprehend the manga when there is more evidence than you can handle and to justify your view you have to grasp and fallacies.

The Sage is not a Uzumaki why does everybody keep saying that.:devil:

1.What is a cousin if not a distant blood relative?

2.That's the dumbest logic I have ever heard.Dinosaurs or the progenitors of crocodiles, inherently meaning...oh wait.

3.The sage was said to have created all ninjutsu.How did he master this without the rinnegan? And why would I need explain how a human can be born with anything in the naruto universe? Firstly, I never said the Sage was born with the Rinnegan. Secondly, why would I need to explain anything in the manga? Why are some shinobi's born with large chakra and Kekkei Genkais in the manga? That question just like yours is irrelevant to my post.The Sage defeat the Ten Tails and then Seal it within himself, if he didn't have the Rinnegan, how did he do this?

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

They aren't a cousin clan, they are simply distantly related. And lets say for arguments sake, the Uzumaki were cousins with the Senju's,why couldn't the Senju's be a branch of the Uzumaki's? There is no evidence to suggest which came first. We are told Senju's started with the Sage while the Uzumaki's are very old.

The Manga stated the Sage two sons Descendants became known as the Uchiha and the Senju? If the Uzumaki clan came before the Senju, wouldn't the younger son descendant be Uzumaki's and not Senju? Wouldn't the Uzumaki clan have been the stronger Clan and not the Senju Clan?

 

[Transcendence]

I think your response to number 2 may be the worst logic I have ever seen in my life....

You're comparing Dinosaurs and Crocodiles, who are genetically similar, but different species to two progenitors THAT ARE OF THE EXACT SAME SPECIES? Seriously you lost all credibility right there.

And yes there is a difference between Distant relatives and Cousin Clans.

Distant relatives are more akin to "kinships" whereas Cousin clans were started by one clan and then another clan merged. The only case of a Senju and Uzumaki coming together and "merging" are Hashi and Mito. Prior to that and still, there is no evidence that the Senju started the Uzumaki clan; only they are distantly related, alluding to the probable possibility there is another link across the line of descent; Rikudou (The Uzumaki).

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

I think your response to number 2 may be the worst logic I have ever seen in my life....

You're comparing Dinosaurs and Crocodiles, who are genetically similar, but different species to two progenitors THAT ARE OF THE EXACT SAME SPECIES? Seriously you lost all credibility right there.

And yes there is a difference between Distant relatives and Cousin Clans.

Distant relatives are more akin to "kinships" whereas Cousin clans were started by one clan and then another clan merged. The only case of a Senju and Uzumaki coming together and "merging" are Hashi and Mito. Prior to that and still, there is no evidence that the Senju started the Uzumaki clan; only they are distantly related, alluding to the probable possibility there is another link across the line of descent; Rikudou (The Uzumaki).

I think my respond to number to was spot on.Dinosaur are believe to be the ancient ancestors of many reptilians species , including the crocodile.The genetic make up of a dinosaur and a crocodile may have some similarities, but they are not the same.This same logic can be used with the Sages sons and there Descendants.The Elder son of the Sage had inherited the Rinnegan,or at least a dojutsu that looked like the rinnegan.Name one Uchiha who has the was born with the rinnegan? That was my point;just because you are a descendant of a someone or something, doesn't mean you are that person or thing.


As for distant relatives, no matter how you words it, distant relatives are cousin.Whether it's, 1st, 2nd, or further down the line, they are cousins to you.Relatives in general or people you share a blood connection with.

 

[Transcendence]

I think my respond to number to was spot on.Dinosaur are believe to be the ancient ancestors of many reptilians species , including the crocodile.The genetic make up of a dinosaur and a crocodile may have some similarities, but they are not the same.This same logic can be used with the Sages sons and there Descendants.The Elder son of the Sage had inherited the Rinnegan,or at least a dojutsu that looked like the rinnegan.Name one Uchiha who has the was born with the rinnegan? That was my point;just because you are a descendant of a someone or something, doesn't mean you are that person or thing.

I understand what you are saying but understand; Dinosaurs and Crocodiles are two different species with similar genetic make-up. The Sages sons are of the EXACT same species. That is convoluted logic. And the Elder son didn't inherit the Rinnegan. The Rinnegan needs the Yang of the Younger son to evolved the Sharingan into the Rinnegan and vice versa.

 

[Zyael]

The Sage is not a Uzumaki why does everybody keep saying that.:devil:

Well, Sir Derp Obito's theory on that are very convincing o.o He made so many of them including a full version.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

The Manga stated the Sage two sons Descendants became known as the Uchiha and the Senju? If the Uzumaki clan came before the Senju, wouldn't the younger son descendant be Uzumaki's and not Senju? Wouldn't the Uzumaki clan have been the stronger Clan and not the Senju Clan?

Longevity has nothing to do with strength.

Well thats ****ed up, I'm saying the Uzumaki clan are older than the sage, and the Sage himself was an Uzumaki, that is the relationship between Uzumaki and Senju.

And your being narrowminded, assuming the Senju came first because they are stronger.

 

[apple pie of doom]

Just...no.
Sage was not an uzumaki.

The uzumaki you saw wielding the rinnegan was a transplanted rinnegan, awakened by an uchiha with senju cells.

Giving Naruto the rinnegan would be quite idiotic.

 

[-ahhimane-]

Ok so we all know that the SO6P had the Rinnegan, and the only person we have seen able to use all 6 paths of the Rinnegan were Nagato Uzumaki. There are also plenty of theories going round about the SO6P being an Uzumaki, which in my opinion is likely to be true. This again adds further weight to the argument that Naruto will awaken the Rinnegan some how.

I hate those bold words when not structured with an acceptable proof.
What's the meaning of "some how"?
On one thing, I accept that Juubi saw the bijuus in Naruto and also the sage's image in Naruto. So that can proves that Naruto might become the Sage. But that doesn't mean that He will get the rinnegan because of being the sage. If that happens then the whole build up story on which Kishi worked so far will just crash because of such plot no jutsu.
What do you think what did the younger son did after the sage's death? Playing possum? Obviously he must have searched for the Bijuus all over the world. Naruto (if he becomes the sage) got all the bijuus in silver plate.

In conclusion : Naruto becomes the sage but not going to get the rinnegan.

 

[Transcendence]

FOR THE LAST TIME, NARUTO DOES NOT REPRESENT THE YOUNGER SON. This "build-up" is a fallacious claim that has no merit. That was immediately thrown out when Naruto was shown more closely related to the Sage than the Younger Son. Don't claim he can't get the Rinnegan when you are grasping at a fallacious parallel.

 

[Ahmed1993]

I agree with this, but Sasuke won't be on the same level as Naruto, he will be a bit lower.

Like Goku and Vegeta

Sasuke and Naruto will be equal in the end stated by Kishi , and btw Naruto will never ever get the Rinnegan , deal with it.

FOR THE LAST TIME, NARUTO DOES NOT REPRESENT THE YOUNGER SON. This "build-up" is a fallacious claim that has no merit

He does , he was related to Senju Hashirama and he is like him in everything ( except power ).
And Senju Hashirama is related to the younger son so stop saying shit.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

Sasuke and Naruto will be equal in the end stated by Kishi , and btw Naruto will never ever get the Rinnegan , deal with it.



He does , he was related to Senju Hashirama and he is like him in everything ( except power ).
And Senju Hashirama is related to the younger son so stop saying shit.

Link to that statement by Kishi please, and you'll soon eat your words.

So what if they related? Naruto is also related to the sage then, and the elder son is Hashirama's great uncle then, they are all related.

You logic is flawed, Naruto has shown to be more like the sage and the younger son. The Juubi recognised the sage inside Naruto, not the younger son.

 

[The Work]

If Naruto gets Rinnegan.....there will seriously be no reason for him and Sasuke to fight

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

If Naruto gets Rinnegan.....there will seriously be no reason for him and Sasuke to fight

Sasuke will also get a power up, but I can't see them fighting now, unless Orochimaru takes over Sasuke's body.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Link to that statement by Kishi please, and you'll soon eat your words.

So what if they related? Naruto is also related to the sage then, and the elder son is Hashirama's great uncle then, they are all related.

You logic is flawed, Naruto has shown to be more like the sage and the younger son. The Juubi recognised the sage inside Naruto, not the younger son.

Well, you shall guess. Hashirama Senju and Uzumaki Mito had a relationship, so it's pretty plausible to assume that Uzumaki Naruto actually is descendent of the First.

Edit: Now that I'm thinking deeper, if I remember well, Uzumaki Kushina is a pure-breed Uzumaki that came in the quality of a 'stranger', and she could be related to Uzumaki Mito... so maybe I could be wrong. Then the only way to prove that Naruto and the First have a Bloodline relation is proving that Minato is descendent of the First... because the Uzumaki descendents that came through the relationships between Mito and Hashirama are not pure breed, ergo, Kushina doesn't have blood from the First.

A crazy theory about it is that the Namikaze family is one of these familys that came through the relationship between Mito and Hashirama and that would explain the great skill Minato had using Uzumaki's fûinjutsus.