[Discussion] Naruto vs. Sasuke - The Real Winner, Draw

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It was a weird ending overall, one of the best actually, but what really spiked my intrest was when Naruto used a regular rasengan to battle sasuke's enton-chidori. Does that mean Rasengan is stronger than its variants?

There is a lot to be said on Sasuke's side, in which he could of 'maybe' absorbed the Rasengan and then continued to use his Enton/Chidori combo.

But on Naruto's side, it seemed as when they clashed he wasn't using his strongest Rasengan variant meaning if he wanted to, Sasuke would of been obiliterated by something way stronger than what can be produced by a regular Rasengan. Meaning, what? Naruto didn't want to kill Sasuke so he purposedly lowered his rasengan form into a less threatening blow (Let's not even mention that Sasuke absorbed his chakra prior ... )

The real winner here is Naruto, without being baised or whatnot. I wrote more for Naruto for reasons, as it was shown in plain text and art form.

The fights before with Naruto/Sasuke have never been true fights. The people who tarnish Sasuke's name saying 4 - 1 or whatever they say now, are really just making Sasuke look worse than he was being portayed. Sasuke even claimed that he was jealous of Naruto because he walked in path farther ahead than what he could reach, aka Hashirama to Madara. No reason to hide the context clues, use common sense.

Kishimoto has ended Naruto vs. Sasuke on a 1 - 1

The first fight at the Valley of the End, when Naruto was unconscious and Sasuke left with a wound. That, there was a fight.

The second at the Valley of the End, both barely conscious with either their left or right arm missing. Sasuke said he "lost" but do you know why he said that? Its because he understands Naruto now, throughout every endeavour of the series Naruto never gave up on his bestfriend, that compassion, that love, that harden resolve kept Naruto going forward while Sasuke hid in the darkness. Naruto finally opened his eyes without using BRUTE FORCE (Not saying he was going easy, but on the same lines of Sasuke trying to kill Naruto). Naruto could of decided to kill Sasuke and went on a full rage mode and this battle defintely would have turned out differently.

Naruto won not only through strength, but won over Sasuke's true feelings and probably changed all of his spiteful attributes he carried all these years. That's why the battle is 1 - 1, because it shows that you don't need to kill you're friend to end this "Brothers fued."

Naruto has shown us ... In the first battle (Yin - defeat; Meaning Naruto almost got killed, but Sasuke decided not to) ... and the second battle (Yang - Defeat; Meaning Sasuke was beaten through feelings instead of trying to kill him for good)

Through this balance, through this story, and by God has Kishi shown us the true power of Yin/Yang. Every action has a re-action, every good has a evil. Now balance is shown, and we can wait to see the future.

PS; The title has "Draw" in it for the 1 - 1 if anyone was wondering.
 
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Skimmed through all this crap, saw that you said that Naruto "won" even though they both ended in the same condition, stopped reading.
 

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Wish you read farther ahead instead of skimming ~!
 

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I don't think Naruto toned down his Rasengan, he went full power and used every last bit of chakra he had. Sasuke used his Enton and Naruto probably intensified his rasengan further. His rasengans where as big as the one Jiraiya and Minato used but the one of them was sure as hell stronger.
 

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I don't think Naruto toned down his Rasengan, he went full power and used every last bit of chakra he had. Sasuke used his Enton and Naruto probably intensified his rasengan further. His rasengans where as big as the one Jiraiya and Minato used but the one of them was sure as hell stronger.

I don't think Naruto toned down his Rasengan, he went full power and used every last bit of chakra he had. Sasuke used his Enton and Naruto probably intensified his rasengan further. His rasengans where as big as the one Jiraiya and Minato used but the one of them was sure as hell stronger.

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I don't really think it was that big.
 

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Naruto is the winner, there was no draw. Sasuke admitted to defeat while Naruto said he would fight on if he had to in order to beat sense into Sasuke.
 

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Naruto is the winner, there was no draw. Sasuke admitted to defeat while Naruto said he would fight on if he had to in order to beat sense into Sasuke.
Did you really not read my OP?
I never stated once that it was a draw, you would of understood if you read the whole post. Re-read, please. lol
 

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For the past weeks, my prediction was right that the fight will be a draw but Naruto changed Sasuke's idealism. That was a good ending and hopefully, people will forgive Sasuke.
 

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For the past weeks, my prediction was right that the fight will be a draw but Naruto changed Sasuke's idealism. That was a good ending and hopefully, people will forgive Sasuke.

I agree the symbolism was defintely Kishi's top memorable moments in Naruto. Kishi said he knew what the ending was since the beginning, but I wish the story had evolved consistantly throughout so that it could live up to being a "Legend" , which it will be, but that War arc/Kaguya arc kind of ruined it a bit.
 

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Did you really not read my OP?
I never stated once that it was a draw, you would of understood if you read the whole post. Re-read, please. lol

I based that off your title before even reading your post for the most part I skimmed the majority but I have now read the whole post and I agree with you for the most part though Sasuke fan's especially Kakooli who seems to like to spout his 5-0 ratio to us when none of the situation's he claim's Sasuke won fight's weren't even a proper fight or a fight that actually finished because for example he gave Sasuke 3 points at VoTe Part 1 because to him nocking Naruto unconscious while he's seen rising up thanks to Kurama and the fight continued lol forgot the other moments
 

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Naruto won in the sense that Sasuke can't go through with his plan and the world will follow his own ideals however the actual fight itself resulted in a draw.
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I based that off your title before even reading your post for the most part I skimmed the majority but I have now read the whole post and I agree with you for the most part though Sasuke fan's especially Kakooli who seems to like to spout his 5-0 ratio to us when none of the situation's he claim's Sasuke won fight's weren't even a proper fight or a fight that actually finished because for example he gave Sasuke 3 points at VoTe Part 1 because to him nocking Naruto unconscious while he's seen rising up thanks to Kurama and the fight continued lol forgot the other moments

Naruto won in the sense that Sasuke can't go through with his plan and the world will follow his own ideals however the actual fight itself resulted in a draw.
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I agree completely with both of you.
Naruto showed us that you don't need to completely destroy your opponent or win the battle, to make your opponent (Sauske) aka friend, see the truth. Which started the Brothers Fued in the first place, the fighting.

He was NEVER supposed to win the battle, otherwise it would contradict Naruto's whole belief. Not saying he cannot beat Sasuke because thats obvious, but in terms of balance.
 

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Its canon Sasuke said He LOST,accept it.
 
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