Naruto VS Sasuke (only poll)

[Pukkake Pokayo]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=18970800" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-18970800">Naruto X Hunter said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> So basically it's bad people like villains despite the bad things they do? Sasuke had good reasons for doing what he did,and trying to do what he wanted to do.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Funny thing is Orochimaru pointed out how Sasuke was &quot;soft&quot; for not killing his opponents. You do realize this is a Shinobi world right? Shinobi kill on missions all the time.<br /> <br /> <br /> <div class="messageHide messageHide--link"> You must be registered for see links </div><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Sasuke changes through life changing experiences.You are making light of this considering you probably never had anyone close to you murdered by someone else close to you.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Hmm,yeah sure seems like you just don't like that Sasuke is in the lead.If alts voted for Sasuke,then don't you think alts would vote for Naruto aswell? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>You misinterpreted, I think. So your our Orocharu bit is rubbish and irrelevant unless I missef the point, in which case please elaborate. Don't think I called Sasuke too ruthless or soft in that quote you referenced to. When I said &quot;who has Sasuke not tried to kill at some point&quot; I was talking about his lack of loyalty etc. He can drop his beliefs at the drop of a hat. <br /> <br /> Wanting revenge is also natural if somebody murdered someone close to you but as I'm pretty tired of explaining on this thread and the other about Sasuke wanting to kill everyone in Konoha, he's a bit irrational sometimes imo. You can say he didn't mean it and it was rhetorical etc. But that just further proves his overall inconsistancy &amp; lack of resolve.<br /> <br /> He had rough life experiences and his reactions were justified in different cases like with Danzo (although it could've been handled better) and with Itachi as mind raped him as a kid, beat him up later etc. Even though he didn't stop to question the illusion (Can't really blame him). Kinda repeating myself but he has had the mentality of nearly every possible villain/ serial killer possible. One minute he's almost likke the joker and the next he's being all righteous and bringing necessary judgement or whatev.<br /> <br /> Also, for the response to the other guy. There are different levels of fanboyism. It's definitely more prominent in Sasuke fans so maybe they'd be more likely to make alts. Idc really.</div>

 

[naruhina3636]

Naruto will always be #1. Lol

 

[xxsasukex]

yay sasuke got the lead

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Naruto will always be #1. Lol

Poll dissagrees.

 

[Dragon Master]

Poll dissagrees.

Naruto/Sasuke fanboys created alt. accounts.

 

[DHOH]

The whole thread is stupid.. When have a poll of clowns ever decide anything? Great arguements can be made for both fighters why each fan club think there favorite is the best...

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Yes, you are right. I agree.



Firstly, it's not manifest that Sasuke drew in the bijuus chakra to use Indra's Arrow ONLY. He might have more jutsus up his sleeves which he could have utilized the bijuus chakra for. But since he lost possession of the chakra after using Indra's Arrow, he might not be able to use it for other jutsus.
And since he used Indra's Arrow ONLY after attaining the bijuus' chakra, we'll talk about just that.

Secondly, what you said isn't at all questionable. Sasuke's chakra is almost as powerful as the bijuus considering that he's of the Uchiha bloodline (a clan famed for powerful chakra), an Indra's transmigrant (powerful chakra even among the Uchihas i.e. powerful chakra within powerful chakra) and inheritor of the Sage's powerful chakra. There isn't possibly anything the bijuus' chakra can do to empower the jutsu. It's obvious that he used the bijuus' chakra because he didn't have sufficient supplies of his own chakra required to produce Indra's Arrow.



No, Sasuke couldn't have easily used Indra's Arrow without bijuus' chakra. He could, but he didn't have enough chakra at that time. He needed more chakra that was powerful enough (like his own chakra) as substitute to produce it, so he sought the bijuus as the perfect target. If he had enough chakra of his own, he wouldn't have needed the bijuus chakra to produce Indra's Arrow. Though he could have acquired it for other purposes if he wished.

Bijuus' chakra isn't an absolute requirement for Indra's Arrow. They were only the requirement of the time like I've explained.



Are you really that stupid? I thought you were one of the more sensible and understanding Naruto fans who could comprehend things properly after explanation. But sorry, my bad...

I never said your reading comprehension is bad because of that. Your comprehension skills suck for your overall perception of the battle because you said that Naruto could have easily defeated Sasuke, mid difficulty, if Sasuke didn't have the bijuus. I provided an entire explanation to counter THIS statement that you made. And I also said you needed better comprehension for THIS statement, not for this stupid reason that I thought you said "Sasuke did not absorb the chakra within himself". Please work on your comprehension, especially now after what you've written.



Captain Obvious? Firstly, I wasn't replying to you. This post was meant for the other guy. So, nobody gives two flying f***s if you are well aware of the difference. And even if you are well aware of the difference, a lot of other Naruto fanboys are completely negligent in this regard. So there is no point of "captain obvious" here.

Secondly, I never said that Naruto wasn't victorious. Refer to this post of mine on another thread.

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This answer of yours perfectly demonstrates your miserable comprehension. I was trying to show Sasuke's level of power through that example (trapping all 9 bijuus simultaneously using CT). And asked for Naruto fans to give an example of Naruto's power with an equal caliber to that. Instead, due to lack of understanding, here is your wretched attempt of providing an answer, which I'm well aware of and didn't ask.



Yeah, plot armor for Naruto. So wasn't it the same for Sasuke? You yourself proved that you provided a pathetic excuse (attack on Sasuke) in Naruto's defense.



@bold Should I say Naruto would be nothing if Sasuke didn't provide him a reason and inspired him to get stronger? Should I say Naruto wouldn't have even learned Rasenshuriken if it weren't for Kakashi and Yamato's training? (Sasuke learned Kirin on his own) Should I say Naruto would have gotten nowhere had it not been for Jiraiya's training? (You could say the same about Sasuke and Orochimaru but since Sasuke possesses none of Orochimaru's powers now, it can be ruled out of the equation). Should I say Naruto wouldn't have become a Sage if it weren't for Fukasaku's training? So he wouldn't be able to do even basic sensory stuff? So can you imagine how pathetic Naruto would be if I throw the same argument you gave me, back at you?
BTW, you didn't clear out Kurama's credit by this excuse. What you said about Sasuke can be said about Naruto without even considering Kurama. So it's even on both sides.

@underlined That's plot! Naruto has also been saved countless times by others. So again, they are both even in this regard. Kurama's protective services were a bonus. So Naruto's debts on Kurama still exist.

On top of all that, Sasuke's powers only give him powers. They don't give him advises. They don't give him strategies. They don't give him knowledge. They don't work for him while he's busy. They don't give him surplus supplies of chakra. They don't enhance his physical capabilities. They don't heal his injuries for him with their chakra (You could say the same about Sasuke i.e. others healing his injuries. But others have also healed Naruto's injuries, so its cancelled out. Kurama's services are a bonus).
So even if we consider your argument, you are still in the negative.



You made me laugh quite a bit with your ridiculous relation of figures. Actually, Naruto was lucky it was 2 vs 6. Because 2 vs 1 could have been catastrophic for Naruto. Ignorant people like you only go by numbers.

Let me give you a little insight of Naruto vs Pain fight:

1. Nagato was using the Six Paths of Pain. This means that his chakra was being distributed evenly among every Path, so every Path received 1/6 of Nagato's chakra, which means that Nagato could only use 1/6 of the total power of his jutsus from each Path using the Six Paths of Pain.

2. On top of that, Nagato was channeling his chakra to the Six Paths of Pain, so the strength and speed of his jutsus was considerably decreased.

3. On top of using 1/6 of total power which is further weakened by decreased strength and speed of jutsus, Nagato had already used so much chakra in his battle against Konoha. He fought so many shinobis including Kakashi, not to mention the almighty Shinra Tensei which destroyed the entire village. All this activity prior to his fight with Naruto consumed a huge amount of chakra, so he didn't start his fight with full chakra level.

4. On top of using 1/6 of total power which is further weakened by decreased strength and speed of jutsus, and having used so much chakra before and slight exhaustion, and even on top of losing all the other Paths including the regeneration Path as the fight continued, he easily fought Naruto and effortlessly pinned him down using only the Deva Path.

5. Even after all the aforementioned reasons, and fighting with only the Deva Path, he could have easily killed SM Naruto, only if he wanted to. Since Naruto was a jinchuuriki, he couldn't kill Naruto. So, Naruto had a tremendous advantage due to this restriction.

Therefore, the conclusion until now:
Deva Path only (with an immensely depleted chakra reserves and considerably exhausted, and the strength and speed of his jutsus decreased, and even having no intention of killing Naruto) > SM Naruto

And if the argument till now isn't enough, don't worry, I have more.

6. So now we have a severely weakened, exhausted and low on chakra reserves Pain (Deva Path only, mind you) who can't use the maximum strength and speed of his jutsus, and has no intention of killing Naruto, even after that he was able to counter Naruto's six tailed form, full of rage, and fought on par with him.

7. EVEN AFTER ALL THOSE DISADVANTAGES ON PAIN'S SIDE AND Naruto's sudden burst of power thanks to Kurama, Pain was able to dominate Naruto using Chibaku Tensei.

So now, let's take a look at the state of your mighty hero:
Deva Path ONLY (weakened, exhausted and low on chakra, decreased strength and speed of jutsus, plus no intention of killing Naruto) > SM Naruto + Six Tailed form (enraged)

8. Even after ALL THAT, Naruto was completely owned by Pain. So he had to push further and unleash the eight tailed form, only then he was able to fight back Pain with the upper hand.

Let's summarize again now:
SM Naruto + EIGHT Tailed form (enraged) > Deva Path ONLY (weakened, exhausted and low on chakra, decreased strength and speed of jutsus, plus no intention of killing Naruto)

OK, so that's what it takes for Naruto (all of his advantages and all of Pain's disadvantages) to overpower Pain. Impressive!

8. Even after all that, Naruto completely ran out of Sage Mode while Nagato still had enough chakra to revive so many of Konoha's shinobis. Even then if Nagato wished to destroy Naruto, he could have easily done that, unless Kurama intervened again to save Naruto's ass.

I proved all of the above points although I didn't need to, because ignorant people like you aren't able to comprehend the nature of the fight and its details. We've already seen how well Nagato could handle Naruto, Bee and Itachi combined, during the war. If it weren't for Itachi's Totsuka Blade and saving Naruto and Bee on time, they would've been in serious trouble.



Sasuke doesn't need new light after overusing the Sharingan because it has no side effects. You only experience blindness after overusing the Mangekyou Sharingan. And if Itachi hadn't died, Sasuke wouldn't have awakened the Mangekyou Sharingan. He would have some other power. And since we don't know what power he would have, we can't talk about it. Therefore, there is no need to go into "What if?". Nobody cares about what would have happened otherwise.

Firstly, it's not manifest that Sasuke drew in the bijuus chakra to use Indra's Arrow ONLY. He might have more jutsus up his sleeves which he could have utilized the bijuus chakra for. But since he lost possession of the chakra after using Indra's Arrow, he might not be able to use it for other jutsus.
And since he used Indra's Arrow ONLY after attaining the bijuus' chakra, we'll talk about just that.

Secondly, what you said isn't at all questionable. Sasuke's chakra is almost as powerful as the bijuus considering that he's of the Uchiha bloodline (a clan famed for powerful chakra), an Indra's transmigrant (powerful chakra even among the Uchihas i.e. powerful chakra within powerful chakra) and inheritor of the Sage's powerful chakra. There isn't possibly anything the bijuus' chakra can do to empower the jutsu. It's obvious that he used the bijuus' chakra because he didn't have sufficient supplies of his own chakra required to produce Indra's Arrow.
So to you Sasuke could only use the Biju's chakra to produce Indra's Arrow and not to empower jutsu he already had? Actually the fact the Biju's chakra empowered his PS should be enough to show that why you are so wrong.

It's obvious the Biju's chakra could of easily powered any jutsu he could of chosen to use but instead he used Indra's Arrow and since I've just said their chakra empowered his PS an ability from his Sharingan it's natural their power could of strengthened all his other jutsu.

No, Sasuke couldn't have easily used Indra's Arrow without bijuus' chakra. He could, but he didn't have enough chakra at that time. He needed more chakra that was powerful enough (like his own chakra) as substitute to produce it, so he sought the bijuus as the perfect target. If he had enough chakra of his own, he wouldn't have needed the bijuus chakra to produce Indra's Arrow. Though he could have acquired it for other purposes if he wished.

Bijuus' chakra isn't an absolute requirement for Indra's Arrow. They were only the requirement of the time like I've explained.

You can't prove that Sasuke didn't have enough chakra to produce Indra's arrow himself and in my opinion he absorbed their chakra for the sole purpose of just strengthening the attack so it isn't survivable. He's the one who held back in the war so that Naruto would exhaust himself to a point where Sasuke could beat him which never happened.

He could of used Indra's arrow but the potency of the attack would not of been on the level if he had not absorbed the Biju's chakra like he did which is when Kurama said "Had I not given you the NE I gathered in time, We would not of survived that attack" it's not exactly what he said but it's along those lines.

Are you really that stupid? I thought you were one of the more sensible and understanding Naruto fans who could comprehend things properly after explanation. But sorry, my bad...

I never said your reading comprehension is bad because of that. Your comprehension skills suck for your overall perception of the battle because you said that Naruto could have easily defeated Sasuke, mid difficulty, if Sasuke didn't have the bijuus. I provided an entire explanation to counter THIS statement that you made. And I also said you needed better comprehension for THIS statement, not for this stupid reason that I thought you said "Sasuke did not absorb the chakra within himself". Please work on your comprehension, especially now after what you've written.

I took what you said out of context, I misunderstood. You need to link me to that explanation because as of late my memory is bad when it comes to people bringing up arguments I can't recall.

Captain Obvious? Firstly, I wasn't replying to you. This post was meant for the other guy. So, nobody gives two flying f***s if you are well aware of the difference. And even if you are well aware of the difference, a lot of other Naruto fanboys are completely negligent in this regard. So there is no point of "captain obvious" here.

Secondly, I never said that Naruto wasn't victorious. Refer to this post of mine on another thread.

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I read the post you linked and it seems you are like them first saying Sasuke was physically stronger and had higher power levels then Naruto so really why would I take you serious when you state such biased assumptions?

This answer of yours perfectly demonstrates your miserable comprehension. I was trying to show Sasuke's level of power through that example (trapping all 9 bijuus simultaneously using CT). And asked for Naruto fans to give an example of Naruto's power with an equal caliber to that. Instead, due to lack of understanding, here is your wretched attempt of providing an answer, which I'm well aware of and didn't ask.

9 TBRS that destroyed the God Tree that would of taken Madara with it had he not absorbed the tree.

Yeah, plot armor for Naruto. So wasn't it the same for Sasuke? You yourself proved that you provided a pathetic excuse (attack on Sasuke) in Naruto's defense.

Plot armor was a joke of a reply because what was said in the first place wasn't worth a serious reply.

@bold Should I say Naruto would be nothing if Sasuke didn't provide him a reason and inspired him to get stronger? Should I say Naruto wouldn't have even learned Rasenshuriken if it weren't for Kakashi and Yamato's training? (Sasuke learned Kirin on his own) Should I say Naruto would have gotten nowhere had it not been for Jiraiya's training? (You could say the same about Sasuke and Orochimaru but since Sasuke possesses none of Orochimaru's powers now, it can be ruled out of the equation). Should I say Naruto wouldn't have become a Sage if it weren't for Fukasaku's training? So he wouldn't be able to do even basic sensory stuff? So can you imagine how pathetic Naruto would be if I throw the same argument you gave me, back at you?
BTW, you didn't clear out Kurama's credit by this excuse. What you said about Sasuke can be said about Naruto without even considering Kurama. So it's even on both sides.

@underlined That's plot! Naruto has also been saved countless times by others. So again, they are both even in this regard. Kurama's protective services were a bonus. So Naruto's debts on Kurama still exist.

On top of all that, Sasuke's powers only give him powers. They don't give him advises. They don't give him strategies. They don't give him knowledge. They don't work for him while he's busy. They don't give him surplus supplies of chakra. They don't enhance his physical capabilities. They don't heal his injuries for him with their chakra (You could say the same about Sasuke i.e. others healing his injuries. But others have also healed Naruto's injuries, so its cancelled out. Kurama's services are a bonus).
So even if we consider your argument, you are still in the negative.

To the Bold text I highlighted. All valid points but as easily you can see how pathetic Naruto would be due to the points you used I could also see the same pathetic future for Sasuke not for certain people so this is a waste of time.

About the underlined text. Of course it's plot that's common sense but you misunderstand the point I was trying to convey to you. Naruto and Kurama were forced together so he had to learn to understand him but Sasuke picked his team and treated them like rubbish like how I stated he cared nothing for Karin after easily sacrificing her to kill Danzo then there's the time he would of easily killed Sakura not for Naruto intervening.

You made me laugh quite a bit with your ridiculous relation of figures. Actually, Naruto was lucky it was 2 vs 6. Because 2 vs 1 could have been catastrophic for Naruto. Ignorant people like you only go by numbers.

Let me give you a little insight of Naruto vs Pain fight:

1. Nagato was using the Six Paths of Pain. This means that his chakra was being distributed evenly among every Path, so every Path received 1/6 of Nagato's chakra, which means that Nagato could only use 1/6 of the total power of his jutsus from each Path using the Six Paths of Pain.

2. On top of that, Nagato was channeling his chakra to the Six Paths of Pain, so the strength and speed of his jutsus was considerably decreased.

3. On top of using 1/6 of total power which is further weakened by decreased strength and speed of jutsus, Nagato had already used so much chakra in his battle against Konoha. He fought so many shinobis including Kakashi, not to mention the almighty Shinra Tensei which destroyed the entire village. All this activity prior to his fight with Naruto consumed a huge amount of chakra, so he didn't start his fight with full chakra level.

4. On top of using 1/6 of total power which is further weakened by decreased strength and speed of jutsus, and having used so much chakra before and slight exhaustion, and even on top of losing all the other Paths including the regeneration Path as the fight continued, he easily fought Naruto and effortlessly pinned him down using only the Deva Path.

5. Even after all the aforementioned reasons, and fighting with only the Deva Path, he could have easily killed SM Naruto, only if he wanted to. Since Naruto was a jinchuuriki, he couldn't kill Naruto. So, Naruto had a tremendous advantage due to this restriction.

Therefore, the conclusion until now:
Deva Path only (with an immensely depleted chakra reserves and considerably exhausted, and the strength and speed of his jutsus decreased, and even having no intention of killing Naruto) > SM Naruto

And if the argument till now isn't enough, don't worry, I have more.

6. So now we have a severely weakened, exhausted and low on chakra reserves Pain (Deva Path only, mind you) who can't use the maximum strength and speed of his jutsus, and has no intention of killing Naruto, even after that he was able to counter Naruto's six tailed form, full of rage, and fought on par with him.

7. EVEN AFTER ALL THOSE DISADVANTAGES ON PAIN'S SIDE AND Naruto's sudden burst of power thanks to Kurama, Pain was able to dominate Naruto using Chibaku Tensei.

So now, let's take a look at the state of your mighty hero:
Deva Path ONLY (weakened, exhausted and low on chakra, decreased strength and speed of jutsus, plus no intention of killing Naruto) > SM Naruto + Six Tailed form (enraged)

8. Even after ALL THAT, Naruto was completely owned by Pain. So he had to push further and unleash the eight tailed form, only then he was able to fight back Pain with the upper hand.

Let's summarize again now:
SM Naruto + EIGHT Tailed form (enraged) > Deva Path ONLY (weakened, exhausted and low on chakra, decreased strength and speed of jutsus, plus no intention of killing Naruto)

OK, so that's what it takes for Naruto (all of his advantages and all of Pain's disadvantages) to overpower Pain. Impressive!

8. Even after all that, Naruto completely ran out of Sage Mode while Nagato still had enough chakra to revive so many of Konoha's shinobis. Even then if Nagato wished to destroy Naruto, he could have easily done that, unless Kurama intervened again to save Naruto's ass.

I proved all of the above points although I didn't need to, because ignorant people like you aren't able to comprehend the nature of the fight and its details. We've already seen how well Nagato could handle Naruto, Bee and Itachi combined, during the war. If it weren't for Itachi's Totsuka Blade and saving Naruto and Bee on time, they would've been in serious trouble.

What you just explained are just excuses as to why Pain was according to you and I understand handicapped in his fight against Naruto due to him fighting before hand and destroying Konoha with his ST but none of the above explain and I did ask you in my reply how Kurama would fight the 6 Path's and also Nagato without Naruto's help.

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

I really don't understand why so many people fight over which one out of the two is the better character, they are both good characters for different reasons.

 

[Solo]

Lord Sasuke!

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

You mean Sasuke had Naruto finished with his own little handout called the Curse Mark.

Normal base Naruto and Sasuke were fighting on par with each other in Part 1, heck, several times Naruto was on top.


Sasuke lost lmao, stop reaching, he lost, it was directly stated, by himself, he lost both the fight and the ideology. Only reason why they both lost an arm was because Naruto was holding back.




Nope, that was canon, it happened in a canon movie, thus, it was canon, not filler.



He only managed to fight Pain as well as he did because Pain was conveniently put into a weakened state after using CST, also because Tendou couldn't use his power, he would've lost if Pain was at full power.




As for who I like more....I'm just gonna say I like them both for different reasons, but damn, that Solo God and his solo glance and clap is too op.

I'm gonna have to go with Naruto though.

Sasuke didn't need the CM to beat Naruto until Naruto went One Tails. Before then Sasuke was just testing out his power,hit Naruto with Chidori,then disactivated it thinking he won. He could of hit Naruto with Chidori without it.


Did you even pay attention to the pages i posted? After the Kyuubi healed Naruto in seconds Sasuke was not using the CM at all,but Naruto was in Kyuubu mode,Sasuke still stomped him to the point where he couldn't move on his own,and thought he lost,then the Kyuubi saves him again by powering him up.

And no the battle was physcially a draw they were in the exact same condition,Sasuke only lost an ideology.But since when is that counted as a battle win? I guess that means Naruto won a battle against Zabuza aswell.

 

[Torche]

The damage control for a thing such as the most liked character.

Both results undoubted have alts in the votes.

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

Sasuke didn't need the CM to beat Naruto until Naruto went One Tails. Before then Sasuke was just testing out his power,hit Naruto with Chidori,then disactivated it thinking he won. He could of hit Naruto with Chidori without it.


Did you even pay attention to the pages i posted? After the Kyuubi healed Naruto in seconds Sasuke was not using the CM at all,but Naruto was in Kyuubu mode,Sasuke still stomped him to the point where he couldn't move on his own,and thought he lost,then the Kyuubi saves him again by powering him up.

And no the battle was physcially a draw they were in the exact same condition,Sasuke only lost an ideology.But since when is that counted as a battle win? I guess that means Naruto won a battle against Zabuza aswell.

Sasuke had a power up with his curse mark before the fight, in fact, even in base he was being affected by the Mark, and he was strengthened immensely.

I remember Naruto doing the stomping but not wanting to actually hurt him (might be thinking of anime filler or something though, its been a while since I last read the battle).


Naruto won and Sasuke lost, that simple.

I really, really don't want to get into a debate about this, seriously, its pretty silly actually.

But if you want to debate than I'm game, I guess.

 

[Uzumaki HAri]

Stay on topic.
Naruto can't do much without his dog.

Wow I cant believe you people.....
Then Naruto fans can also say that Sasuke is nothing without his sharingan..........Naruto would've kicked his ass again and again if it wasn't for his sharingan
Naruto having kurama inside of him is fate and sasuke having Sharingan is also fate............so please I like sasuke and Naruto both equally but your comments really make me cry

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Wow I cant believe you people.....
Then Naruto fans can also say that Sasuke is nothing without his sharingan..........Naruto would've kicked his ass again and again if it wasn't for his sharingan
Naruto having kurama inside of him is fate and sasuke having Sharingan is also fate............so please I like sasuke and Naruto both equally but your comments really make me cry

Don't waste your time bro they'll counter it by saying the Sharingan is a KKG inherited through his clan where Kurama is a living being that he received but they fail to realize or don't care to unlike the Uchiha which gain their KKG through a sense of great loss Naruto gained Kurama when he was a baby without the ability to say no and experienced most of his younger years being hated by people for something that had nothing to do with him.

The Uchiha proud themselves when they gain the Sharingan, Naruto hated The Kyuubi(Kurama) For a long time during his youth because of the beatings and hate that it caused him to receive by a lot of Konoha's citizens.

 

[Dantee]

Naruto fans so rustled over a poll geez.

 

[Torche]

Don't waste your time bro they'll counter it by saying the Sharingan is a KKG inherited through his clan where Kurama is a living being that he received but they fail to realize or don't care to unlike the Uchiha which gain their KKG through a sense of great loss Naruto gained Kurama when he was a baby without the ability to say no and experienced most of his younger years being hated by people for something that had nothing to do with him.

The Uchiha proud themselves when they gain the Sharingan, Naruto hated The Kyuubi(Kurama) For a long time during his youth because of the beatings and hate that it caused him to receive by a lot of Konoha's citizens.

That's MS though.

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

If Naruto didn't have the Kyuubi, then Minato wouldn't have died, thus, Naruto would've been brought up by Minato, and trained by him.
Without the Kyuubi running amok in Konoha, the Uchiha clan wouldn't have died, and thus Sasuke would've still had his family.

In canon, Sasuke without the Sharingan was a genius and above 'Academy Level' since the moment he became a Gennin.
Naruto's growth and intellect was stunted because of the villages treatment and also because they weren't willing to teach him properly.
It's hard to say what the outcomes would've been, but it's safe to say Naruto would've been some sort of a genius, at the very least.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

All I know is sasuke could have shot naruto like he did against itachi instead did the whole bring the chidori down on him

 

[-immortal-]

Naruto's winning in this poll, guess the sauce base hype was just that.

What where you saying tho?

 

[UzumakiRyu]

What where you saying tho?

I said this when Naruto was ahead in the poll so your reply now is meaningless.