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wasted your time bro
Naruto vs Sasuke, a discussion.
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wasted your time bro
EliteRamenNinja
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No, actually he did not and I respect it that he gives such a answer. However, I see some mistakes in it. But I am out now, like I said, but I will answer this reasonable argument from him tomorrow, with the help of some manga panels as facts. 
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Zetsu said that before Sasuke got the Susanoo which Zetsu does no about by the way.
1.You posted a quote from Zetsu in Chapter 453 page 14...when Zetsu had no idea MS was going to get stronger by getting Susanoo.
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2.Naruto himself admited into different Chapters that his SM wasn't enough to beat MS Sasuke when got the Susanoo and that he needed the Kyuubi power in order to face him.
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^Chapter 488 page 12
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^Chapter 490 page 14
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You where getting good,but made some blunder
1.Why would Naruto say that they would both die if they fought if both wherent equal at that point....
What naruto said was that He couldn't beat sasuke.....then he continued "Not while he's like that" what does this mean? There's darkness in sasuke's heart,and that beat doesn't mean defeat,it means convince...that's what people have been confusing the manga with...
2.Naruto saying he will need the Kyuubi's chakra was Something he intended for.every fight he delves into,the kyubi tries its antics,and hinders his abilities,Naruto knew he was going to face off with sasuke,so he wanted to eliminate all hindrances,and what better way to do that than to control the kyuubis power.
All corrections I have made are inside the manga....
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Naruto fanboys=noobs
Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg
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SM is really the only thing Kyuubiless Naruto has
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Naruto>sasuke in any form or time period brah
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Thank you for doing this for me I swear I was going to let this kid have it but you saved me about an hour worth destroying him ^_^
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Naruto probably isn't gonna have Kyuubi
He's just going to use Sage Mode
Who the heck knows what Sasuke will have by that time.
Sakura is going to die by getting in the middle of the Naruto and Sasuke's clashing.
He's just going to use Sage Mode
Who the heck knows what Sasuke will have by that time.
Sakura is going to die by getting in the middle of the Naruto and Sasuke's clashing.
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Why would Kishimoto power up his main character only to nerf him in the end? Naruto isnt gonna to lose anything.
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Dude, seriously, just wait tomorrow when I am sober again haha. Stupid arguments.
And kid? Bitch please, your mum did not call me like that. =D
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Here's my argument against Sasuke fanboys.
The Sharigan was a gift to Sasuke just as much as Kurama was to Naruto. He was blessed by being a descendant of the Sage.
Hell, Take Kurama away Naruto and he still pushes current Sasuke to a high diff loss. (And Sasuke has a second "gift" in Itachi's eye)
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In part 1 Naruto wasn't fighting to kill and didn't even use summons, while Sasuke was fighting to kill. Naruto in part one shits Sasuke. It's simple as that.
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Part two, The gap is even worse here. Naruto at any point In Part 2 can beat current Sasuke, before he got KM he would just need to enter 4tk and up.
Again, Naruto shits on Sasuke. Simple as that.
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In spite of everything I've said, I despise Naruto. I used to be a Sasuke fanboy before becoming a side character fan, and still like sauce more than Naruto. Yet, they can't compare. Naruto is simply and irrefutably stronger than Sasuke.
The Sharigan was a gift to Sasuke just as much as Kurama was to Naruto. He was blessed by being a descendant of the Sage.
Hell, Take Kurama away Naruto and he still pushes current Sasuke to a high diff loss. (And Sasuke has a second "gift" in Itachi's eye)
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In part 1 Naruto wasn't fighting to kill and didn't even use summons, while Sasuke was fighting to kill. Naruto in part one shits Sasuke. It's simple as that.
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Part two, The gap is even worse here. Naruto at any point In Part 2 can beat current Sasuke, before he got KM he would just need to enter 4tk and up.
Again, Naruto shits on Sasuke. Simple as that.
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In spite of everything I've said, I despise Naruto. I used to be a Sasuke fanboy before becoming a side character fan, and still like sauce more than Naruto. Yet, they can't compare. Naruto is simply and irrefutably stronger than Sasuke.
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Let me graduate you young brother since it's clear your infermation about the Manga is so little.
You clearly don't what shitting on someone means....so, what of it? Naruto going all out against Sasuke and he said it himself that he would break every single bones in Sasuke's which in other words means Naruto was holding anyhting back.
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^When you tell someone that you would break every bone in your body then not trying to kill them doesn't matter.
What gap is worst in part 2? It's very clear that you don't know as to what you're talking.....SM Naruto was stated to be inferior to MS Sasuke both times in Manga so it's the Manga against a random nerd like you.
Naruto himself admited into different Chapters that his SM wasn't enough to beat MS Sasuke when got the Susanoo and that he needed the Kyuubi power in order to face him.
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^Chapter 488 page 12
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Wrong, Naruto without KM and BM gets his ass handed to him with ease by current.
Answer me this 4 question then we will debate.
1.How does SM Naruto dodge Amaterasu?
2.How can SM Naruto break throw Genjutsu without Kurama? in other words...he gets one-shot
2.How does SM Naruto dodge Susanoo Arrow?
3.In what way can SM Naruto break Susanoo's defense?
Yes, the Genjutsu becomes more powerful, but does Naruto have Genjutsu usage? no
The 3 Toads can be easily turn into ash with Amaterasu or Blaze Release.
^Here is the Toads having so much trouble with Pain dogs forget about Beaked Bird summoning.
^While Amaterasu easily destroyed Pain dogs and Beaked Bird summoning and Sasuke Amaterasu is superior to Itachi's in every way.
Power: yes, Naruto does have a lot of power in Sage Mode, but so does Susanoo.
^Susanoo has proven that it has a dangerous power that can easily destroy the ground and this only Incomplete.
^Again, yet another example of Susanoo power.
Sage Mode Clones or Clones doesn't matter in Sasuke's way.
^Sasuke new Susanoo showed that it can easily damage multiple enemies at the same time and good use against a Clone user.
Sensor Ability: yes, Naruto is by far the best sensor in NV, but that Sensor Ability doesn't matter if your body can't move at the same speed.....it's like a Sharingan user.
Ninjutsu: Naruto has a good Ninjutsu usage, but none i mean none of his Rasengans or Rasenshurkien(his most power move is any use against Susanoo.
^Ribcage Susanoo>>>>>>Chou Odama Rasengan
Susanoo>>>>>>Rasenshurkien
^Susanoo>Gaara's Ultimate Defence and this was only the Incomplete Susanoo.........Final Susanoo>Complete Susanoo>Incomplete Susanoo>Ribcage Susanoo
^Gaara's Ultimate Defence>3rd Railkage Ulimate Shield
^3rd Railkage Ulimate Shield>Rasenshurkien
^Susanoo arrow: this technique is easily on of the fastest in NV that a fast Ninja like "Kakashi" needed to use "Kamui" to save himself so unless you're saying SM Naruto is as fast as Kamui then you shouldn't even start debating.
^Now this attack doesn't just have an amount of speed that's nearly hard to Dodge, but also a force that can easily go throw Mokuton.
When did SM Naruto dodged react Juubi beam or are making **** up like always to save yourself or maybe, are talking about BM? because if you are then this thread is about SM Naruto not BM Naruto.
^Now the Railkage(who's the next to Naruto and Minato being the 3rd fastest Ninja in the world)need to go on his V2 just to counter the Amaterasu
^CO even said "He's going to counter it with his "Shunshin no Jutsu" and this when he at his full speed.
Sasuk also has Hawk summoning.....he can easily fly and shot down Amaterasu fireballs and destroy Naruto's Clones and the Toads and Naruto no way to reach Sasuke.
^Hawk Summoning
Last, but not least
^Naruto himself admitted that his SM is Beneath Sasuke's MS......look how that turn out to be
The 3 Toads can be easily turn into ash with Amaterasu or Blaze Release.
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^Here is the Toads having so much trouble with Pain dogs forget about Beaked Bird summoning.
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^While Amaterasu easily destroyed Pain dogs and Beaked Bird summoning and Sasuke Amaterasu is superior to Itachi's in every way.
Power: yes, Naruto does have a lot of power in Sage Mode, but so does Susanoo.
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^Susanoo has proven that it has a dangerous power that can easily destroy the ground and this only Incomplete.
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^Again, yet another example of Susanoo power.
Sage Mode Clones or Clones doesn't matter in Sasuke's way.
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^Sasuke new Susanoo showed that it can easily damage multiple enemies at the same time and good use against a Clone user.
Sensor Ability: yes, Naruto is by far the best sensor in NV, but that Sensor Ability doesn't matter if your body can't move at the same speed.....it's like a Sharingan user.
Ninjutsu: Naruto has a good Ninjutsu usage, but none i mean none of his Rasengans or Rasenshurkien(his most power move is any use against Susanoo.
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^Ribcage Susanoo>>>>>>Chou Odama Rasengan
Susanoo>>>>>>Rasenshurkien
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^Susanoo>Gaara's Ultimate Defence and this was only the Incomplete Susanoo.........Final Susanoo>Complete Susanoo>Incomplete Susanoo>Ribcage Susanoo
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^Gaara's Ultimate Defence>3rd Railkage Ulimate Shield
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^3rd Railkage Ulimate Shield>Rasenshurkien
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^Susanoo arrow: this technique is easily on of the fastest in NV that a fast Ninja like "Kakashi" needed to use "Kamui" to save himself so unless you're saying SM Naruto is as fast as Kamui then you shouldn't even start debating.
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^Now this attack doesn't just have an amount of speed that's nearly hard to Dodge, but also a force that can easily go throw Mokuton.
When did SM Naruto dodged react Juubi beam or are making **** up like always to save yourself or maybe, are talking about BM? because if you are then this thread is about SM Naruto not BM Naruto.
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^Now the Railkage(who's the next to Naruto and Minato being the 3rd fastest Ninja in the world)need to go on his V2 just to counter the Amaterasu
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^CO even said "He's going to counter it with his "Shunshin no Jutsu" and this when he at his full speed.
Sasuk also has Hawk summoning.....he can easily fly and shot down Amaterasu fireballs and destroy Naruto's Clones and the Toads and Naruto no way to reach Sasuke.
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^Hawk Summoning
Last, but not least
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^Naruto himself admitted that his SM is Beneath Sasuke's MS......look how that turn out to be
The only form of Naruto that is stronger than Sasuke is BM Naruto which won't take that long for Sasuke to get his own hax EMS technique to be equal to BM Naruto......please, never post something like this again or everyone will seeing how much your knowledge about the Manga is so shitty.
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I remember a similar completely rubbish thread you made that went with the usual fill-in-the-blank mentality and lots of redundant, nonsensical tripe you are almost always known for.
You are quite the attention loving strumpet that flails and wags his hips to draw the fops in. It's a shame such craftiness isn't depicted in your manga knowledge:
- A shinobi is supposed to exploit its enemy's weakness and take the opportunity to strike him down. Sasuke did extensive research on Snakes as he explained to Itachi and took Orochimaru down on basis of knowledge alone. Your opinion won't change the ownage Orochimaru received.
- How? Itachi's goal was to exhaust Sasuke of his chakra completely to draw Orochimaru out. He failed here. His Tsukuyomi failed to cage Sasuke, who almost killed him with Kirin. He was well-prepared for the fight, and didn't seem to be aware of CS Susano'o with yata mirror that deflected Kirin, which incidentally obliterated an entire mountain top. Had he not had Susano'o in his arsenal, Itachi would have been killed instantly. Only a delusional crack-pot would deny so.
- Deidara died in a fair battle when Sasuke was severally holding back for information. The former had an undue advantage.
- Bee only landed a single lethal hit on Sasuke when he overcame his MS Genjutsu, a fact he was unaware of. Had Sasuke wanted to kill Bee when he was still under Genjutsu's influence, the fight would have been cut drastically short.
The only reason Bee had an advantage in the beginning was because Sasuke was extremely worn out from his fight with Itachi:
And let's not brush aside how the fight between Taka and Eight Tails culminated:
- Sasuke's Enton spikes would have speared through A's body, killing him. Even Gaara ventures that A was deep in hot water:
Sasuke's Ribs Form was brand new at that point that took Mei's point blank Lava attack without a scratch:
- Karin didn't intervene in the fight even a single time. Dear God, your manga knowledge and counter argumentation is akin to a gasping guppy, left ashore to wonder when it will die of exhaustion. It's almost insufferable.
- Kabuto was fully aware of both Uchiha brothers decision to keep him alive. A fact he exploited. And without Sasuke, Itachi would have accomplished jack, as Sasuke helped him by using a wall of Amaterasu, nailing Kabuto to the wall to provide distraction, using Enton sword and arrows to cut through the web and try and catch him whilst Itachi prepared the course of action. Give the credit where it is due.
So what is your accomplishment? A lot of assumptions and usually insufferable desperation that is typical of a low-key instigator. Not even a commendable attempt. All of your facts are made up and scream general butt-hurt sentiments. Stop crying a leaking fluids all over the place; it's embarrassing.
You are quite the attention loving strumpet that flails and wags his hips to draw the fops in. It's a shame such craftiness isn't depicted in your manga knowledge:
- A shinobi is supposed to exploit its enemy's weakness and take the opportunity to strike him down. Sasuke did extensive research on Snakes as he explained to Itachi and took Orochimaru down on basis of knowledge alone. Your opinion won't change the ownage Orochimaru received.
- How? Itachi's goal was to exhaust Sasuke of his chakra completely to draw Orochimaru out. He failed here. His Tsukuyomi failed to cage Sasuke, who almost killed him with Kirin. He was well-prepared for the fight, and didn't seem to be aware of CS Susano'o with yata mirror that deflected Kirin, which incidentally obliterated an entire mountain top. Had he not had Susano'o in his arsenal, Itachi would have been killed instantly. Only a delusional crack-pot would deny so.
- Deidara died in a fair battle when Sasuke was severally holding back for information. The former had an undue advantage.
- Bee only landed a single lethal hit on Sasuke when he overcame his MS Genjutsu, a fact he was unaware of. Had Sasuke wanted to kill Bee when he was still under Genjutsu's influence, the fight would have been cut drastically short.
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. Bee was under MS Genjutsu long enough for Sasuke to let out a sigh and turn around. It was a good twelve to fifteen seconds. But he wasn't there to kill Bee, was he? Another ignored factor on your part. How funny and typical. The only reason Bee had an advantage in the beginning was because Sasuke was extremely worn out from his fight with Itachi:
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. Whist Bee was at 100 %. That alone makes a huge difference. People are always so forgetful that Bee only landed a single fatal hit on Sasuke when he blew his organs out, whilst the stabs were not fatal according to Bee himself:
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. Keep arguing with the manga. It's always entertaining. And let's not brush aside how the fight between Taka and Eight Tails culminated:
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- At the end, Bee Lost, saved by Karin's mishap. - Sasuke's Enton spikes would have speared through A's body, killing him. Even Gaara ventures that A was deep in hot water:
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. Sasuke's Ribs Form was brand new at that point that took Mei's point blank Lava attack without a scratch:
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and only lost the battle when he was low on Chakra; a fact admitted by Mei and Karin and explicitly elucidated with the Mist eating away at the same Susano'o that took a full on Lava attack and then penetrating it after a desperate try to climb to a higher Susano'o form. Funny fella. - Karin didn't intervene in the fight even a single time. Dear God, your manga knowledge and counter argumentation is akin to a gasping guppy, left ashore to wonder when it will die of exhaustion. It's almost insufferable.
- Kabuto was fully aware of both Uchiha brothers decision to keep him alive. A fact he exploited. And without Sasuke, Itachi would have accomplished jack, as Sasuke helped him by using a wall of Amaterasu, nailing Kabuto to the wall to provide distraction, using Enton sword and arrows to cut through the web and try and catch him whilst Itachi prepared the course of action. Give the credit where it is due.
So what is your accomplishment? A lot of assumptions and usually insufferable desperation that is typical of a low-key instigator. Not even a commendable attempt. All of your facts are made up and scream general butt-hurt sentiments. Stop crying a leaking fluids all over the place; it's embarrassing.
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Kishimoto said in a interview that Naruto with KCM can beat Sasuke easy... but now Sasuke with EMS, it will be hard to say... but Naruto is the main character, protagonist, it's of course he is winning
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without 9tails hed be toast but sasukes been lucky a few times and sharingan makes it unfair.... u gota balance things up however naruto got like 3 powerups in a short period
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