Naruto vs EMS Madara

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This Naruto

No access to his cloak

Madara starts in v4
Distance is 20M
Intel is manga
 

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naruto cant do anything to PS, so a PS slash obliterates him.
 

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The Nine Bijuu Rasenshuriken destroy Madara.
 

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I don't believe Naruto has any jutsu in that form to bypass Madara's PS, since YRS is definitely not cutting it. TBBRS, 9 Biju Rasenshruiken's, etc. are all used with a cloak, he's not producing those jutsu in this form so he's more then likely to get trashed by PS+Kyuubi combo.
 

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I don't believe Naruto has any jutsu in that form to bypass Madara's PS, since YRS is definitely not cutting it. TBBRS, 9 Biju Rasenshruiken's, etc. are all used with a cloak, he's not producing those jutsu in this form so he's more then likely to get trashed by PS+Kyuubi combo.
We've seen him making YRS without a cloak. What's stopping him from making shadow clones that each put in an individual piece of Bijuu chakra to form FRS variants?
 

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We've seen him making YRS without a cloak. What's stopping him from making shadow clones that each put in an individual piece of Bijuu chakra to form FRS variants?

I doubt he could create many massive Bijuu-Rikudo FRS variants with the chakra he has in that form, especially when each shadow clone would have 1/x of the original's chakra. And anyways, if YRS couldn't even cut JJ Madara, and JJ Madara is far less durable than PS, then even the combined jutsu would probably fail. I mean, Sasuke's Chidori Eiso could bisect SHINJU Madara with ease (whereas YRS failed against a weaker Madara), and even Shinju Madara is less durable than PS. Genuinely don't see how the RS combo would beat Madara's PS in this form, since this form's RS combo would logically be much weaker than the RSM one.
 
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Apex, LFRS should definitely destroy PS.
 

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Even if Naruto can use the Super Bijuu Rasen Shuriken in this form, is it going to be so much stronger than YRS that it busts PS? (let's not also forget that Naruto's power w/o the cloak is a good tier below his power with the cloak, thus the same would go for his Ninjutsu). Those are regular sized Rasen Shuriken. YRS is the same as a Chou Oodama Rasen Shuriken. The difference in power is massive. Adding 9 other elemental Rasen Shuriken would probably close the gap, but would it overtake it let alone overtake it by so much that Madara can't tank?

Nah. YRS is his strongest technique, and it's not stronger than what PS has already tanked. Naruto doesn't have a reliable defense in this form either. So yeah, PS kills him or Iso Kurama destroys him with 12 Bijuu Dama barrages.
 

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The impact made on shinjuu shits all over the explosion that destroyed PS.

Am I supposed to care about what it did to the Shinju? Madara's Gunbai was casually cutting branches with the same durability as the Shinju root. Get a big enough Gunbai and it would do it against the root since size does not equate to greater durability pound for pound. PS easily tanks what failed to bisect JJ Madara, who is less durable than Shinju Madara, who is less durable than PS.
 

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The impact made on shinjuu shits all over the explosion that destroyed PS.

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The impact that cut the Shinju was as wide as the Shinju itself. In terms of width the explosion that destroyed a downsized PS dwarfs the Shinju.
 

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SMH I literally have to recycle the arguments I made months ago in this matter. I'll post when I get home.
 

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SMH I literally have to recycle the arguments I made months ago in this matter. I'll post when I get home.

Why are you "SMH" when you created this thread with the obvious anticipation of this argument being the deciding factor in the whole debate? SMH
 

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I don't know what argument you're gonna bring, but you aren't correct. So it'd be better if you saved all of us some time and just conceded.
 

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Im confused af. YRS can cut the god tree but not a ps Kurama fusion? Then we have people saying it didn't split Madara in half so Ps tanks yet those same people think EE could tunnel holes in a ps. Also Bijuu tree tanked 4 Juubidama's and that Tree is definanltly less durable than the god Tree. YFRS uses cutting force on a level ps has never been hit with before.
 
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I doubt he could create many massive Bijuu-Rikudo FRS variants with the chakra he has in that form, especially when each shadow clone would have 1/x of the original's chakra. And anyways, if YRS couldn't even cut JJ Madara, and JJ Madara is far less durable than PS, then even the combined jutsu would probably fail. I mean, Sasuke's Chidori Eiso could bisect SHINJU Madara with ease (whereas YRS failed against a weaker Madara), and even Shinju Madara is less durable than PS. Genuinely don't see how the RS combo would beat Madara's PS in this form, since this form's RS combo would logically be much weaker than the RSM one.
That could be the case, but wasn't his YRS larger than the one he created with the Super Tailed Beast RS? I never argued with the idea that the YRS would destroy PS though... I was just arguing the fact that Naruto in RSM should be capable of recreating that move in RSM-no cloak. I mean I guess that the clones itself would be a problem, but since he pulls the chakra from the Bijuu themselves would that effect anything?
 

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Now I recall when I was getting treated like an idiot on saying DRSM Madara can beat this form of Naruto Lol
 

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Now I recall when I was getting treated like an idiot on saying DRSM Madara can beat this form of Naruto Lol

I said DRSM Madara could win as well people called me crazy.
 
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