Naruto vs Edo madara

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25 Susanoo clones=Naruto never being able to touch Madara.

If Naruto tries to clear them out using TBB, then one of the clones absorbs it with Preta Path.

Taijutsu is pointless as Madara has Mokuton to spam from 25 different places, or Asura Path if he really wants to engage him in close combat.
 

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25 Susanoo clones=Naruto never being able to touch Madara.

If Naruto tries to clear them out using TBB, then one of the clones absorbs it with Preta Path.

Taijutsu is pointless as Madara has Mokuton to spam from 25 different places, or Asura Path if he really wants to engage him in close combat.
Again, when has madara's clones shown to use any mokuton techniques? And when has it shown Madara can use clones while in PS? And when has it shown that he can use rinnegan while in PS or the other way around?

Shunshin is enough to dodge Mokuton spam.
 

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Again, when has madara's clones shown to use any mokuton techniques? And when has it shown Madara can use clones while in PS? And when has it shown that he can use rinnegan while in PS or the other way around?

Shunshin is enough to dodge Mokuton spam.
Lol, don't even start that BS here, Clones can use whatever their original can use, and the fact that you are questioning the fact that Mokuton clones can use Mokuton is actually pretty funny. And where did I ever mention him using Rinnegan techs in PS? A Clone can simply absorb it for him.

Ok? Naruto dodges, and he keeps on spamming.
 

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Lol, don't even start that BS here, Clones can use whatever their original can use, and the fact that you are questioning the fact that Mokuton clones can use Mokuton is actually pretty funny. And where did I ever mention him using Rinnegan techs in PS? A Clone can simply absorb it for him.

Ok? Naruto dodges, and he keeps on spamming.
Alright then naruto's clones can use BM and TBB then lets start and the fact that you stated madara's "25 susano'o clones" led me to think those clones could use rinnegan while in PS.

Don't forget naruto can use SM and KCM clones too. SM pops in front of preta turning him into stone while the other BM clones blow up the rest of 24 susano'os or BM naruto goes into kurama avatar and shunshin them pretas while the other BM and KCM clones nuke wood dragon and PS. If i remember correctly, KCM can use TBB now.
 

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Alright then naruto's clones can use BM and TBB then lets start and the fact that you stated madara's "25 susano'o clones" led me to think those clones could use rinnegan while in PS.

Don't forget naruto can use SM and KCM clones too. SM pops in front of preta turning him into stone while the other BM clones blow up the rest of 24 susano'os or BM naruto goes into kurama avatar and shunshin them pretas while the other BM and KCM clones nuke wood dragon and PS. If i remember correctly, KCM can use TBB now.
KCM can only use a Mini TBB first of all.

@bold: That is a horrible tactic and it doesn't make any sense, as Madara has to grab him otherwise he won't turn into stone..if he is in the process of absorbing a jutsu how will Naruto stop it? He won't cause its impossible.

How are BM Clones going to blow up the Wood Clones when they can all absorb his chakra based attacks with Preta Path? Taijutsu is a bad idea since he has Mokuton is push him away, or Asura Path, which will man handle him in Taijutsu.

Wood Dragon and PS don't need to be used if he has his 25 Clones on the field, as PS's slashes will just destroy them...Wood Dragon was already countered in the manga so I don't see it getting Naruto again.
 

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KCM can only use a Mini TBB first of all.

@bold: That is a horrible tactic and it doesn't make any sense, as Madara has to grab him otherwise he won't turn into stone..if he is in the process of absorbing a jutsu how will Naruto stop it? He won't cause its impossible.

How are BM Clones going to blow up the Wood Clones when they can all absorb his chakra based attacks with Preta Path? Taijutsu is a bad idea since he has Mokuton is push him away, or Asura Path, which will man handle him in Taijutsu.

Wood Dragon and PS don't need to be used if he has his 25 Clones on the field, as PS's slashes will just destroy them...Wood Dragon was already countered in the manga so I don't see it getting Naruto again.

Well, FRS spam still works

Since SM clones are made up of Sage chakra, it's possible that Madara will suck that chakra as well.

Deactivating BM and going into Kurama avatar don't take long. If all 25 of his clones use rinnegan, it makes this easier. Is madara riding wood dragon or not?

What are you arguing here?
 

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Well, FRS spam still works

Since SM clones are made up of Sage chakra, it's possible that Madara will suck that chakra as well.

Deactivating BM and going into Kurama avatar don't take long. If all 25 of his clones use rinnegan, it makes this easier. Is madara riding wood dragon or not?

What are you arguing here?
FRS spam gets absorbed also, and like I said, Madara need to grab them directly which is unnecessary so I can't see why he'd attempt it, and he can even see through Shadow Clones and knows which one is the real Naruto so he wouldn't bother absorbing a clones chakra.

Madara doesn't need Wood Dragon so he won't be using it, he won't be using PS either.
 

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FRS spam gets absorbed also, and like I said, Madara need to grab them directly which is unnecessary so I can't see why he'd attempt it, and he can even see through Shadow Clones and knows which one is the real Naruto so he wouldn't bother absorbing a clones chakra.

Madara doesn't need Wood Dragon so he won't be using it, he won't be using PS either.
at bolded-is madara riding wood dragon? Hes absorbing the TBB though, if he stop it's going to hit him. Like I said, the clone has Sage chakra mixed up with normal chakra.

25 rinnegan edo Madara fighting BM naruto? Thats like 25 edo Nagato fighting Bm naruto and his clones. Alright then, the real naruto activates his BM and use TBB as distraction. While pretas absorbing them, Naruto deactivates full BM and use shunshin combined with a bijuurasengan. If the an asura decide to attack the real naruto, KCM clone rushes to help since KCM has the speed advantage.
 

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at bolded-is madara riding wood dragon? Hes absorbing the TBB though, if he stop it's going to hit him. Like I said, the clone has Sage chakra mixed up with normal chakra.

25 rinnegan edo Madara fighting BM naruto? Thats like 25 edo Nagato fighting Bm naruto and his clones. Alright then, the real naruto activates his BM and use TBB as distraction. While pretas absorbing them, Naruto deactivates full BM and use shunshin combined with a bijuurasengan. If the an asura decide to attack the real naruto, KCM clone rushes to help since KCM has the speed advantage.
Wood Dragon won't be used in this battle so he won't be riding on top of it, and he has 25 other clones that can absorb the FRS spam.

Even if 1 clone is busy absorbing the TBB, 24 other clones and Madara himself can easily intercept any incoming clones.

A Shinra Tensei or Mokuton spam can pressure them, causing them to fall back.
 

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Wood Dragon won't be used in this battle so he won't be riding on top of it, and he has 25 other clones that can absorb the FRS spam.

Even if 1 clone is busy absorbing the TBB, 24 other clones and Madara himself can easily intercept any incoming clones.

A Shinra Tensei or Mokuton spam can pressure them, causing them to fall back.
Stop changing scenarios. It's not like naruto don't have clones and his clone is fast enough to intercept the rest of Madara's clones. What mokuton technique? Actually, Madara has not shown to use Tendo, Asura, Animal, Human, Naraka so I don't know if he can use them or how strong their technique is.
 

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Stop changing scenarios. It's not like naruto don't have clones and his clone is fast enough to intercept the rest of Madara's clones. What mokuton technique? Actually, Madara has not shown to use Tendo, Asura, Animal, Human, Naraka so I don't know if he can use them or how strong their technique is.
Who is changing scenarios here? I have had one scenario this whole entire debate: 25 Susanoo clones. You are the one who kept on talking about Madara riding Wood Dragon and PS being used, when I never said he would use them.

Jukai Kotan, with 24 different Jukai Kotan's coming at Naruto, he isn't going to be able to take care of those and intercept Madara's clones too.

Madara can use all of the paths as Rinnegan gives the user all of the paths and lol, the strength of the techniques? Really? The only one that works for is Shinra Tensei, and that ones power varies depending on how much chakra you have put into it.
 

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Who is changing scenarios here? I have had one scenario this whole entire debate: 25 Susanoo clones. You are the one who kept on talking about Madara riding Wood Dragon and PS being used, when I never said he would use them.

Jukai Kotan, with 24 different Jukai Kotan's coming at Naruto, he isn't going to be able to take care of those and intercept Madara's clones too.

Madara can use all of the paths as Rinnegan gives the user all of the paths and lol, the strength of the techniques? Really? The only one that works for is Shinra Tensei, and that ones power varies depending on how much chakra you have put into it.
Your the one who said he would spam mokuton and you never even stated which mokuton techniques.

Jukai Koutan could get nuked by continous TBB while Madara don't have any speed feats to get in front of the technique and absorb the TBB.

ST got penetrated by a KN6 or KN7.
 

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Your the one who said he would spam mokuton and you never even stated which mokuton techniques.

Jukai Koutan could get nuked by continous TBB while Madara don't have any speed feats to get in front of the technique and absorb the TBB.

ST got penetrated by a KN6 or KN7.
Since when has Naruto's clones been able to use the Full Kurama Cloak? Without that they can't use TBB, and why would Madara need to get in front of the technique? Why would he even need to absorb it? Jukai Kotan is shot from Madara's location so if Continuous TBB is fired at the Jukai Kotan it will blow up, the TBB won't reach him.

A Deva who had exhausted his chakra fighting Konoha, SM Naruto, and had also used CST along with BT and ST many times....of course that ST won't be as strong as Madara's who is an Edo so his chakra can't get exhausted and Madara can simply make a bigger one than Deva used on KN6.
 

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Since when has Naruto's clones been able to use the Full Kurama Cloak? Without that they can't use TBB, and why would Madara need to get in front of the technique? Why would he even need to absorb it? Jukai Kotan is shot from Madara's location so if Continuous TBB is fired at the Jukai Kotan it will blow up, the TBB won't reach him.

A Deva who had exhausted his chakra fighting Konoha, SM Naruto, and had also used CST along with BT and ST many times....of course that ST won't be as strong as Madara's who is an Edo so his chakra can't get exhausted and Madara can simply make a bigger one than Deva used on KN6.
He doesn't need full kurama cloak and we already discussed this in my second post.

Then whats the point of mokuton spam? 1 BM naruto is enough to nuke them with continous TBB while the other ones attack Madara.

BM naruto is way stronger than KN6. Same logic applies.
 

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He doesn't need full kurama cloak and we already discussed this in my second post.

Then whats the point of mokuton spam? 1 BM naruto is enough to nuke them with continous TBB while the other ones attack Madara.

BM naruto is way stronger than KN6. Same logic applies.
No, we didn't discuss anything, he needs the full cloak to use TBB, that is manga canon, he can only use Mini TBB without the cloak, not TBB.

There are 25 Jukai Kotans coming..1 BM Naruto isn't taking on all of those at once coming from multiple sides..

And is there proof that BM Naruto's durability is better than KN6? Human BM form isn't taking on a Shinra Tensei like a beast KN6 did.
 

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He doesn't need full kurama cloak and we already discussed this in my second post.

Then whats the point of mokuton spam? 1 BM naruto is enough to nuke them with continous TBB while the other ones attack Madara.

BM naruto is way stronger than KN6. Same logic applies.
okay,madara already flawleslsy brushed aside a naruto clone easily. Naruto must enter full bm mode to ise the large tbb,in human form,he uses mini tbb. He an create 2 bm clones,madara can make 25 susanoo clones,all who have rinnegan,ems and moukton,1 bm clone fores a tbb,one susanoo clone absorbs it while the others attack naruto. Wood dragon is strong enough to hold bm naruto for a while,which is enough for madara to finish it. Madara can drop a meteor in the time it takes for nauto to beat the dragon,and then attacked by over 20 susanoo clones,moukton techs would also deal with any clones. Naruto has no chance here
 

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No, we didn't discuss anything, he needs the full cloak to use TBB, that is manga canon, he can only use Mini TBB without the cloak, not TBB.

There are 25 Jukai Kotans coming..1 BM Naruto isn't taking on all of those at once coming from multiple sides..

And is there proof that BM Naruto's durability is better than KN6? Human BM form isn't taking on a Shinra Tensei like a beast KN6 did.
Alright then naruto's clones can use BM and TBB then lets start and the fact that you stated madara's "25 susano'o clones" led me to think those clones could use rinnegan while in PS.

Don't forget naruto can use SM and KCM clones too. SM pops in front of preta turning him into stone while the other BM clones blow up the rest of 24 susano'os or BM naruto goes into kurama avatar and shunshin them pretas while the other BM and KCM clones nuke wood dragon and PS. If i remember correctly, KCM can use TBB now.
He only need half of cloak

1 TBB is mountain size, even though this isn't the super one, it's still mountain size and he can continously use it.

He tanked a juubi laser. Jubii laser>ST and Naruto can activate full BM at anytime he wants and it doesn't take long.
 
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