Naruto Vs A (5 kage summit)

[ANiMUS]

KCM Naruto hasn't been shown to have the same durability as Sage Naruto. Sage Naruto was completely unharmed by a punch from Pain. I don't think a punch from A would KO him.

Naruto has been shown to be able to react to a raikage's speed anyway.

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The fact that he could completely evade a raikage's attack, and counter attack before he could move, indicates that Naruto's speed is at least equal to a raikage's. Also, didn't you read the part where I said that Naruto's shadow clones cold
act as shields and decoys? How's A gonna find the real one in the midst of 2000 clones?

Dude, that is hilarious ay would stomp Naruto in 2.6 seconds flat

 

[Cosman]

SM Naruto might survive or something (I hope), but I doubt he'd win the fight.

Dodging the third raikage's attack in SM was nice, but A's arsenal is a little more varied than a two finger spear. Plus we're talking about a real person with their own battle experiences, not an edo zombie. Ay has shown he has quite the resistance and can go for days.

A is just a bad matchup I think.

edit: actually scratch the edo vs human thing. It doesn't apply to brutes very well, and Ay is a straightforward fighter rather than a thinker.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

A punch from Pain? You're comparing a punch from Pain to a punch from A? Come on now.

Naruto's KM Cloak protected him from the following.

Juubi's Tenpenchii

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Roshi's lava, he only got a minor burn when he should have gotten much worse. Lava Release Armor is hot enough to burn someone without even making contact. Naruto only suffered minor burns when he was hit by it.

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Took Minor damage from Hans Steam Armor enhanced kick. Which sent Naruto and Bee flying a good distance backwards, and Bee only caught Naruto, he didn't take a direct hit.

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Sage Mode has not shown durability on this level.

Naruto's been shown to react to the 3rd Raikage's speed. 3rd Raikage doesn't have V2 Armor, meaning he is slower than A. So, that comparison doesn't work here.

2000 clones? In Sage Mode? Lmao. Its not like Naruto will be able to make hand signs for clones anyway as A can put him down with the first punch, and Naruto can't keep up with his speed.

LOL. Yes, Naruto in sage mode has shown as much if not greater durability. He took a direct hit from the 9 tails and shrugged it off. Bare in mind that the 9 tails can withstand a TBB from the 10 tails and has been shown to be immensely stronger than other tailed beasts.

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There's no way that A is as strong as the Kurama. So yeah, there's no change that a single punch from A can KO Sage Naruto. Naruto probably used a cloak of chakra to defend against tenpenchi instead of just tanking it with his body. This is the only logical solution since he's been shown to be injured by much less in KCM.

Also, if speed were such a deciding factor, then Naruto would have stomped Obito and Madara by now. Madara flat out blocked an attack from biju Naruto, which is faster than KCM!

One last thing. What makes you think that the 3rd doesn't have V2? Show me pics contrasting the appearance of the 2 in lightning armor V2.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Dude, that is hilarious ay would stomp Naruto in 2.6 seconds flat

What's so hilarious about it? You don't honestly think that A could actually beat sage Naruto in such a small time do you? Frog kumute stomps A's taijutsu.

 

[KidGamer65]

LOL. Yes, Naruto in sage mode has shown as much if not greater durability. He took a direct hit from the 9 tails and shrugged it off. Bare in mind that the 9 tails can withstand a TBB from the 10 tails and has been shown to be immensely stronger than other tailed beasts.

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There's no way that A is as strong as the Kurama. So yeah, there's no change that a single punch from A can KO Sage Naruto. Naruto probably used a cloak of chakra to defend against tenpenchi instead of just tanking it with his body. This is the only logical solution since he's been shown to be injured by much less in KCM.

The Kyuubi slamming his paw into SM Naruto and pinning him on the ground does not even begin to compare to the amount of damage the Juubi's Tenpenchi causes. Lets be serious now.

When has he ever displayed anything like this? Oh wait, never. That's you making up stuff so you're argument will be valid. Naruto's KM Cloak and the V1 cloak he made protected the Shinobi Alliance from the blast as well. That's what the manga shows.

No, its not the the only logical conclusion. It simply means that Kurama simply slapping his paw down on Naruto isn't as strong as you think it is.

Also, if speed were such a deciding factor, then Naruto would have stomped Obito and Madara by now. Madara flat out blocked an attack from biju Naruto, which is faster than KCM!

That simply means Naruto's speed isn't enough for Madara. Considering he has tools that prevent him from being blitzed. (Susanoo) Obito has Kamui.

One last thing. What makes you think that the 3rd doesn't have V2? Show me pics contrasting the appearance of the 2 in lightning armor V2.

A's hair spikes up. And his armor sparks more often.

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The third's hair doesn't spike up and his armor doesn't spark as much as A's does.

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A has V2 while the 3rd doesn't.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

The Kyuubi slamming his paw into SM Naruto and pinning him on the ground does not even begin to compare to the amount of damage the Juubi's Tenpenchi causes. Lets be serious now.

When has he ever displayed anything like this? Oh wait, never. That's you making up stuff so you're argument will be valid. Naruto's KM Cloak and the V1 cloak he made protected the Shinobi Alliance from the blast as well. That's what the manga shows.

No, its not the the only logical conclusion. It simply means that Kurama simply slapping his paw down on Naruto isn't as strong as you think it is.



That simply means Naruto's speed isn't enough for Madara. Considering he has tools that prevent him from being blitzed. (Susanoo) Obito has Kamui.



A's hair spikes up. And his armor sparks more often.

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The third's hair doesn't spike up and his armor doesn't spark as much as A's does.

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A has V2 while the 3rd doesn't.

Uh, you do realize that the 3rd's hair is just as spiked up as A's right?

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As for spark frequency, HOW IN THE HECK CAN YOU TELL THE FREQUENCY OF SOMETHING IN A MANGA!
In the panel before the very one you showed me, the 3rd had sparks. You're doing what you accused me of doing.

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As for your agrument of the 9 tails....:sy: Slaming something into the ground does more damage than if you hit it mid air due to the ground being beneath. Naruto has shown partial biju transformations, so it's not unreasonable to think that he could have used that or a cloak to block.

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He could have used chakra arms either. KCM hasn't shown the same endurance as sage mode when it comes to the body.

 

[KidGamer65]

Uh, you do realize that the 3rd's hair is just as spiked up as A's right?

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What the hell? Are you blind or something. Look at his hair, it doesn't spike up like A's. All of the hair spikes up when V2 is used. All you are done is taking the top of both of their hair and comparing it, which is not how it works.

The third's hairstyle remains the same when he uses his Armor, A's doesn't. The only way this is debatable is if you can't interpret simple pictures.

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As for spark frequency, HOW IN THE HECK CAN YOU TELL THE FREQUENCY OF SOMETHING IN A MANGA!
In the panel before the very one you showed me, the 3rd had sparks. You're doing what you accused me of doing.

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Even if I'm wrong about the sparks..doesn't change the fact that V2 spikes the hair up. Meaning the 3rd was not in V2.

As for your agrument of the 9 tails....:sy: Slaming something into the ground does more damage than if you hit it mid air due to the ground being beneath. Naruto has shown partial biju transformations, so it's not unreasonable to think that he could have used that or a cloak to block.

No it makes no sense at all. Simply something you pulled out of your arse. BM Naruto uses the partial Bijuu Transformations. Not KM Naruto. KM Naruto is already wearing a cloak, there is no other cloak to generate that lets him protect from attacks.

He could have used chakra arms either. KCM hasn't shown the same endurance as sage mode when it comes to the body.

Since when did Chakra Arms add to his defense power? Oh wait, never. Naruto's KCM Cloak let him take on the Juubi's Tenpenchii. SM Naruto's only durability feats are taking a paw to ground and falling on some spiked rocks. Try again.

@bold: What are you even talking about? Did I say he hit him in mid air? No, so this bolded part was unncessary.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

What the hell? Are you blind or something. Look at his hair, it doesn't spike up like A's. All of the hair spikes up when V2 is used. All you are done is taking the top of both of their hair and comparing it, which is not how it works.

The third's hairstyle remains the same when he uses his Armor, A's doesn't. The only way this is debatable is if you can't interpret simple pictures.

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Even if I'm wrong about the sparks..doesn't change the fact that V2 spikes the hair up. Meaning the 3rd was not in V2.



No it makes no sense at all. Simply something you pulled out of your arse. BM Naruto uses the partial Bijuu Transformations. Not KM Naruto. KM Naruto is already wearing a cloak, there is no other cloak to generate that lets him protect from attacks.




Since when did Chakra Arms add to his defense power? Oh wait, never. Naruto's KCM Cloak let him take on the Juubi's Tenpenchii. SM Naruto's only durability feats are taking a paw to ground and falling on some spiked rocks. Try again.

@bold: What are you even talking about? Did I say he hit him in mid air? No, so this bolded part was unncessary.

The 3rd's hair style is always spiky. How would it get more spiky? The fact is, the chakra looks the same. This indicates that it's the same level. I'd be hesitant to insult people for not handling info correctly as you do the same thing.

The reason I think that chakra arms can be used defensively is because IT'S MADE OF THE SAME THING AS THE CHAKRA TAILS WHICH DOES BLOCK ATTACKS! I think that's a reasonable conclusion. Also, what I meant is that he seems to be able to partially transform into biju mode not Kurama. Sorry if I communicated that.

If A was as strong as a tailed beast, there wouldn't have been any causalities on the 8 tails rampages. Kurama is definitely stronger than the 8 tails, and Naruto shrugged off an attack from him. There's no way that if Naruto'sphysical durability is greater than sage modes, that this could happen.

 

[KidGamer65]

The 3rd's hair style is always spiky. How would it get more spiky? The fact is, the chakra looks the same. This indicates that it's the same level. I'd be hesitant to insult people for not handling info correctly as you do the same thing.

It would stand up just like A's did, but it didn't so its only V1 not V2.

The reason I think that chakra arms can be used defensively is because IT'S MADE OF THE SAME THING AS THE CHAKRA TAILS WHICH DOES BLOCK ATTACKS! I think that's a reasonable conclusion. Also, what I meant is that he seems to be able to partially transform into biju mode not Kurama. Sorry if I communicated that.

Chakra arms are chakra arms for extended range and offense, not defense. The cloak is what offers the protection hence it being a cloak.

Not to mention if they are made of the same thing then the cloak would be able to take it as well.....not like it matters as this is all a broad assumption on your part which isn't backed up by manga fact. Manga shows Naruto's cloak protecting him from the blast hence it vanishing. It also shows the weaker cloaks protecting the alliance from the same blast. Unless you think V1 Cloaks>KCM Cloak in defensive terms then KCM took it on. No chakra arms or anything of the sort.

If A was as strong as a tailed beast, there wouldn't have been any causalities on the 8 tails rampages. Kurama is definitely stronger than the 8 tails, and Naruto shrugged off an attack from him. There's no way that if Naruto'sphysical durability is greater than sage modes, that this could happen.

KCM Cloak already tanked Tenpenchii. Tenpenchii is superior to Kurama's paw pinning Naruto to the ground meaning KCM has greater durability feats than Sage Mode. Simple as that.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

It would stand up just like A's did, but it didn't so its only V1 not V2.



Chakra arms are chakra arms for extended range and offense, not defense. The cloak is what offers the protection hence it being a cloak.

Not to mention if they are made of the same thing then the cloak would be able to take it as well.....not like it matters as this is all a broad assumption on your part which isn't backed up by manga fact. Manga shows Naruto's cloak protecting him from the blast hence it vanishing. It also shows the weaker cloaks protecting the alliance from the same blast. Unless you think V1 Cloaks>KCM Cloak in defensive terms then KCM took it on. No chakra arms or anything of the sort.




KCM Cloak already tanked Tenpenchii. Tenpenchii is superior to Kurama's paw pinning Naruto to the ground meaning KCM has greater durability feats than Sage Mode. Simple as that.

I give up. Clearly your not gonna change your mind no matter what I say. Neither of us can prove our point exactly. Neither of our opinions are more valid than the others.