KingHashirama
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Now this is really something that should be discussed. You see NAruto-verse, there is the problematic issue that NAruto-verse has no "Base" for its fighting.
Let me put this in perspective through one piece:
In one piece you have Devil fruits. The abilities of some devil fruits are OP, that if we were to do simple "on-screen" feats , the devil fruit people would merck the floor. However, the one factor that stops crazy bs like " logic user will merck the floor with someone" from happening is HAKI. So no matter if the fans try to create BS scenarios or anything like that , as long as someone has HAKI they will be able to counter a devil fruit.
See in one piece, a fanboy of lets say Doflamingo can come up to me and say "yo dofla can whip shanks or etc with just controlling them or slicing them and etc" , but all i ahve to do is say "nope, sorry Shanks Haki is on another level."
Because in one piece top teir with Haki = High level Haki = Able to o****er high level Devil fruits.
^^^ Thats a good base. Naruto has nothing like that.
Applying that to Naruto:
In Naruto we have genjutsu. OP technique. People like Itachi and others who in the manga are about mid-tier in powers have on screen feats of genjutsu techniques that they would solo people if we only talk about on-screen feats.
Sure we have the BS crap with Gai making a fighting style to counter genjutsu users where he fights with close eyes. But here is the battle with Itachi and Gai from on-screen feats:
Gai: I have invented a blind fighting style -closes eyes- so i can't be caught in a genjutsu.
Itachi: Thats nice - Amaterasu on Gai- But never take eyes off of your opponent newbie.
^^^ See that. Kishimoto gave a natural way to counter genjutsu, and that was to disrupt your own chakra (Something naruto tried doing, but Itachi stated he was too weak.) However when was the last time he showed someone doing this? oh wait... he never showed it.
Another example, The Gokage are above or equal to Itachi/Kisame/Danzo however with on-screen feats, We can't even say they are. Because there is no base that says "High level ninja have high level reactions or etc".
Conclusion:
Naruto-verse not having a base in fights, is what leads to the misconceptions of who is stronger, and who should be ranked where. Kishimoto, needs to clear this up. He can portray Sakura on the level of EMS Sasuke and Naruto and then not give her feats that don't even allow her to surpass Itachi. But he shouldn't need to show all feats for us to claim shes above their level..... there should be a base set up for it. But there is none, and that leads to these BS arguments.
Let me put this in perspective through one piece:
In one piece you have Devil fruits. The abilities of some devil fruits are OP, that if we were to do simple "on-screen" feats , the devil fruit people would merck the floor. However, the one factor that stops crazy bs like " logic user will merck the floor with someone" from happening is HAKI. So no matter if the fans try to create BS scenarios or anything like that , as long as someone has HAKI they will be able to counter a devil fruit.
See in one piece, a fanboy of lets say Doflamingo can come up to me and say "yo dofla can whip shanks or etc with just controlling them or slicing them and etc" , but all i ahve to do is say "nope, sorry Shanks Haki is on another level."
Because in one piece top teir with Haki = High level Haki = Able to o****er high level Devil fruits.
^^^ Thats a good base. Naruto has nothing like that.
Applying that to Naruto:
In Naruto we have genjutsu. OP technique. People like Itachi and others who in the manga are about mid-tier in powers have on screen feats of genjutsu techniques that they would solo people if we only talk about on-screen feats.
Sure we have the BS crap with Gai making a fighting style to counter genjutsu users where he fights with close eyes. But here is the battle with Itachi and Gai from on-screen feats:
Gai: I have invented a blind fighting style -closes eyes- so i can't be caught in a genjutsu.
Itachi: Thats nice - Amaterasu on Gai- But never take eyes off of your opponent newbie.
^^^ See that. Kishimoto gave a natural way to counter genjutsu, and that was to disrupt your own chakra (Something naruto tried doing, but Itachi stated he was too weak.) However when was the last time he showed someone doing this? oh wait... he never showed it.
Another example, The Gokage are above or equal to Itachi/Kisame/Danzo however with on-screen feats, We can't even say they are. Because there is no base that says "High level ninja have high level reactions or etc".
Conclusion:
Naruto-verse not having a base in fights, is what leads to the misconceptions of who is stronger, and who should be ranked where. Kishimoto, needs to clear this up. He can portray Sakura on the level of EMS Sasuke and Naruto and then not give her feats that don't even allow her to surpass Itachi. But he shouldn't need to show all feats for us to claim shes above their level..... there should be a base set up for it. But there is none, and that leads to these BS arguments.
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. If that was the premise, i would've made a thread based on that, and not on the fact that Naruto-verse has no BASE for its fighting.
