That's just one way he could be defeated. oro has a whole hell of a lot of ways. The point is, jiraiya hasn't shown a single thing capable of killing oro. That already bumps him off his tier... If you can't kill your opponent, how are you going to be in their league...?
Jman has Rasenga which can do considerable damage to his body & will force him to use Oral rebirth.
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Gamayu Endan can force him to use OR(Oral rebirth).
If he keep using OR then it'll be a suicide for Oro...He might have no jutsu that can kill Oro with a single blow but that dosen't mean that his attacks won't hurt Oro....
Fighting SM Jman is same as fighting 3 sage's at the same time I can't see how Oro can beat this Guy...
he can counter Oro's summonings with this
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Oro has no counter for this .....
No lol, deidara can easily take on Kakuzu. Lose maybe high diff to sasori, and possibly beat Kisame. At best, deid can tie with all 3 with C0. His c3 already can kill the likes of kakuzu and sasori if it's connects. plus his highspeed flight makes him a bastard to hit( really good defence there).
A snake like Manda can tank it his attacks..what makes u think Domu can't do the same ..?
Kisame can tank it by using a massive water barrier ..Sasori can do the same with Sand layer.....
Konan is underrated... She was trained by Jiraiya, come on. Like seriously, that should already say a lot. Then we have her paper attacks that can suffocate someone or blow their limbs off. We have her angel form which is basically immune to damage since she's just a floating head(even that can be turned to paper) surrounded by paper. Paper which can just be destroyed without killing her.
True but she can't beat those 3 guys ....Kisame can over power her paperflow with his water & can absorbe chakra in those papers ...u know what happens to Konan after running out of chakra right..?
Same thing will repeat in case of Sasori & Kakuzu ....Sasori will use sand & can use poison at the same time ...Kakuzu with his multiple bodies is hard to deal with...
Well if it's not accurate then why did you make it. And there's a few too many things I disagree with to explain, I made my own once so I guess that'd answer that question. And yeah...but I read the reason and it still doesn't make much sense. Let's rank Tenten next except give her an immortal paper body that fixes itself too....hm.
Is there any rule against inaccurate list...?
It's just a list of own opinion ...Iam not one of those guys who thinks that their opinion > Kishi & is accurate that's Y I said that it is not accurate...If u really had proper reasons to prove than Iam wrong Y don't u post ur reasons insted of this Irrelevant stuf...?
Just having an Immortal body won't chage anything in my list ,u can clearly Observe that incase of Itachi & Nagato ...
Minato & Madara are clearly different from their alive form .....
That makes no sense. The edos on his list (madara, minato) clearly have added feats, therefore it's justifiable. Did you see edo kakuzu? sasori? Any of the other edos? no. Even edo nagato is justifiable as it's said( by naruto) he was stronger in edo form. The only edo here that doesn't need to be in, is edo itachi but, even then, he's in the same tier alive/edo so it doesn't even matter that OP put him in. Edos clearly should be in a tier list if they have added feat... What, you think because someone is edo they're instantly stronger? LoLno. A killing blow + a paper tag is enough to defeat an edo. If you can land a killing blow on their alive state, that same killing blow is fatal in edo form since it incapacitates them.
Thanks Bro, can't explain it better than this......I don't know y people are worrying about EDO even though I have included thire alive forms in my list as well ...they refuse to add EDO's in Tier list & yet want make threads like EDO Itachi vs EDO Minato...who is stronger B/w EDO Madara and Hashirama..etc...
No one is using imaginations when brought from the manga. But this is your list which is an opinion. Kishi thinks Madara is SO6P tier since he called him second rikudou Sennin.
Jman has Rasenga which can do considerable damage to his body & will force him to use Oral rebirth.
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Gamayu Endan can force him to use OR(Oral rebirth).
If he keep using OR then it'll be a suicide for Oro...He might have no jutsu that can kill Oro with a single blow but that dosen't mean that his attacks won't hurt Oro....
Fighting SM Jman is same as fighting 3 sage's at the same time I can't see how Oro can beat this Guy...
he can counter Oro's summonings with this
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Oro has no counter for this .....
A snake like Manda can tank it his attacks..what makes u think Domu can't do the same ..?
Kisame can tank it by using a massive water barrier ..Sasori can do the same with Sand layer.....
True but she can't beat those 3 guys ....Kisame can over power her paperflow with his water & can absorbe chakra in those papers ...u know what happens to Konan after running out of chakra right..?
Same thing will repeat in case of Sasori & Kakuzu ....Sasori will use sand & can use poison at the same time ...Kakuzu with his multiple bodies is hard to deal with...
Not sure if you're serious about this or just listing abilities...
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but it's going to damage oro so much that he's forced to use oral rebirth...? Oro tanked being sliced in half without needing to oral rebirth.. .He only rebirths fatal damage, a rasengan isn't fatal lol. The number of people who've survived a rasengan is too damn high. That's assuming Jiraiya can even do that when Oro is as fast as him and has Fuuton:Great wind breakthrough( and possibly stronger variants) that can blow his ass away... lol.
Wtf? Why would he need to oral rebirth? That's just a trap. He can simply fight with kusanagi or
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that allows him to traverse underground or morph with nature. How is a swamp trapping him...?
You just listed a few jutsu and claimed Oro would need to oral rebirth out of them, like are you serious? Especially about that rasengan one. Orochimaru took a totsuka through his chest and claimed the blow couldn't phase him before realising the sword seals. He got sliced to pieces by sasuke and came back without oral rebirth. he got sliced in half by 4tails and came out without rebirth. he got knocked the hell around by tsunade and came back without reverse. What, because he rebirthed out a a ripped off arm(before he could enter soft physique modification, or because he rebirthed out of the corrosive chakra of 4tail(that would destroy his entire body) he somehow needs to rebirth a rasengan....?
Manda died. And, we don't know if manda even took the full attack. The only snake we saw tanking deid's attack( a c2 one at that) got vaporized.
You're assuming sasori even has 3rd kazekage out yet. Then you're also assuming he has perfect manipulation of it like gaara and his sand, which is just false. Even in that case, what about deid's ground attacks and high speed birds, hmm? As for kisame, It doesn't even matter much as kisame can take out sasori and kakuzu relatively easily. For that fact alone, having him below them is just insane. None of kakuzu or sasori's attacks can affect him due to either his water or chakra absorption, so what's the point of them being a tier above him?
Like i said, kisame is over all 4 of them in the first place. if you want, you can bump kisame in a tier above them, but he should be around the same tier. It's like comparing itachi to them when itachi destroys them.
That sasori and kakuzu part didn't prove anything. You can't poison a piece of paper, lol. And, again with the sand. What happens when 3rd kazekage dies? Everyone who defends sasori always talks about kazekage alone pretty much implying sasori is useless without him( he isn't ). puppet masters are vulnerable to CQC taijutsu, konan's paper uses cqc. Sand can't even block it because it's just a bunch of paper movign all over the place and reforming where she wants. He's have to catch each piece of paper. As far as we can see, he doesn't have that level of IS manipulation to manipulate all those strands individually. Konan would simply wrap his body and blow him up, kazekage can't really help against that. As for kakuzu, the masks can't stop her paper yet again. It really is just a bunch of paper moving all over the place individually. It's not one large cluster. You can go watch pain VS jiraiya to see my point if you want, or even konan vs Obito. Kakuzu nor sasori can't handle a few hundred pieces of paper flying all over which then meets at them to kill them. If she wraps them with paper it's basically over. They can't get rid of it without attacking themselves( jiraiya only escaped because he was never wrapped in it) and that's deadly.
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but it's going to damage oro so much that he's forced to use oral rebirth...? Oro tanked being sliced in half without needing to oral rebirth.. .He only rebirths fatal damage, a rasengan isn't fatal lol. The number of people who've survived a rasengan is too damn high. That's assuming Jiraiya can even do that when Oro is as fast as him and has Fuuton:Great wind breakthrough( and possibly stronger variants) that can blow his ass away... lol.
Wtf? Why would he need to oral rebirth? That's just a trap. He can simply fight with kusanagi or
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to possibly break free. If not, Orochimaru has
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and a
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that allows him to traverse underground or morph with nature. How is a swamp trapping him...?
You just listed a few jutsu and claimed Oro would need to oral rebirth out of them, like are you serious? Especially about that rasengan one. Orochimaru took a totsuka through his chest and claimed the blow couldn't phase him before realising the sword seals. He got sliced to pieces by sasuke and came back without oral rebirth. he got sliced in half by 4tails and came out without rebirth. he got knocked the hell around by tsunade and came back without reverse. What, because he rebirthed out a a ripped off arm(before he could enter soft physique modification, or because he rebirthed out of the corrosive chakra of 4tail(that would destroy his entire body) he somehow needs to rebirth a rasengan....?
Tobi's body almost got distroyed by that attack ..I didn't said that it can kill him ...Oro used another persons Body during his fight with Tsunade & is using his transformed body against Sasuke which needs no Rebirth /he just got absorbed by Sasuke b4 he could do that...what makes u think he is not planning to use OR after that attack from Itachi..?
Jman can use bigger Rasengan's which can do more damage than a normal one.....are u serious about that Kushanagi part..?
How simply extending the sword can help him......?
How long do u think Oro can extend his hands to escape than jutsu...?
Manda died. And, we don't know if manda even took the full attack. The only snake we saw tanking deid's attack( a c2 one at that) got vaporized.
Manda with normal body atleast tanked it without geting distroyed ...Kakuzu's domu is as hard as diamond with that he can probably tank it.....
You're assuming sasori even has 3rd kazekage out yet. Then you're also assuming he has perfect manipulation of it like gaara and his sand, which is just false. Even in that case, what about deid's ground attacks and high speed birds, hmm?
Ofcource if ur going to assume that artist would use attacks like c3 & c4 ...Didn't he already used sand against team Sakura..?
Artist clearly admitted that he can't beat Sasori...I think there is no need to debate about that..
As for kisame, It doesn't even matter much as kisame can take out sasori and kakuzu relatively easily. For that fact alone, having him below them is just insane. None of kakuzu or sasori's attacks can affect him due to either his water or chakra absorption, so what's the point of them being a tier above him?
That sasori and kakuzu part didn't prove anything. You can't poison a piece of paper, lol. And, again with the sand. What happens when 3rd kazekage dies? Everyone who defends sasori always talks about kazekage alone pretty much implying sasori is useless without him( he isn't ). puppet masters are vulnerable to CQC taijutsu, konan's paper uses cqc. Sand can't even block it because it's just a bunch of paper movign all over the place and reforming where she wants. He's have to catch each piece of paper. As far as we can see, he doesn't have that level of IS manipulation to manipulate all those strands individually. Konan would simply wrap his body and blow him up, kazekage can't really help against that. As for kakuzu, the masks can't stop her paper yet again. It really is just a bunch of paper moving all over the place individually. It's not one large cluster. You can go watch pain VS jiraiya to see my point if you want, or even konan vs Obito. Kakuzu nor sasori can't handle a few hundred pieces of paper flying all over which then meets at them to kill them. If she wraps them with paper it's basically over. They can't get rid of it without attacking themselves( jiraiya only escaped because he was never wrapped in it) and that's deadly.
Are u saying that Konan can fight without breathing ...?
Iam not saying that he is useless without 3rd Kazekage but in this case he can use Sand to stop papers from attacking him while trying to attack konan.....
Kakuzu had fire style with can burn papers & wind to make it even worce ...he can use his ES to protect him self Konan can't fight while defending herself...Even Obito with single hand can bypass her papers & ur saying that Kakuzu with that a body of threads can't...?
Character Name: Kabuto (DSM)
Current tier: top tier
Suggested tier: mid top tier
Reason: obito from mid top tier along with alive minato, edo itachi and possibly bee and tobirama beat him...!
Character Name: Kabuto (DSM)
Current tier: top tier
Suggested tier: mid top tier
Reason: obito from mid top tier along with alive minato, edo itachi and possibly bee and tobirama beat him...!
None of thse guys can beat him though be might have a chance since he can use TBB against which Body liquefying or oral rebirth is useless..but Bee is bit careless while fighting ,Kabuto can take advantage of it...
The list is still pretty much flawed, I'm just gonna mention Itachi being inferior to DSM Kabuto, the number of quality characters that they defeated says all.
Good list but oro should not be in god tier ... why??? bcz even he has 4 edo hokages but we have seen in naruto part 1 edo hashirama and edo tobirama was defeated by hiruzen... does this mean hiru is above them... no i think edo hashi and tobirama or any edo by their own will fighting are stronger than controled edo hashi and tobirama and same goes for kabuto too so acording to me sage, obito, Kaguya is ok in god tier list.
in top tier list u put naruto... current naruto is now par with hashirama or even above of him. so he should be either in god tier list or in upper top tier list
at last i would like to say hashirama and madara should be in god tier list instead of oro and kabu.
Well for example, Kakashi and Gai should be a tier above imo. There is no reason for Kisame to be there and not Kakashi and Gai when Gai defeated Kisame [
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They have repeatedly already proved during this war that they are one of the strongest in the alliance shinobi, doing even better job than the Kages themselves, especially Kakashi who can virtually fight with opponents from any level from Obito, to Juubi, going through Gedo Mazo
His only weakness has always been chakra, but it's only an issue when talking about days of battle since let's not forget he fought during 2days in this war before running out of chakra, showing an incredible amount of stamina and adaptation in his jutsu use
Kakashi has also shown to rival Obito in genjutsu and is the superior shinobi when Kamui isn't involved. He may not use it as much as Obito but even considering Kamui, he has shown to be more skilful than Obito. Because of this i don't think Kakashi is that far away from him
Good list but oro should not be in god tier ... why??? bcz even he has 4 edo hokages but we have seen in naruto part 1 edo hashirama and edo tobirama was defeated by hiruzen... does this mean hiru is above them... no i think edo hashi and tobirama or any edo by their own will fighting are stronger than controled edo hashi and tobirama and same goes for kabuto too so acording to me sage, obito, Kaguya is ok in god tier list.
Kabuto's EDO's are fighting with their full power I can't see that happening ,also Oro's current EDO is an improved version of prv one as stated by Tobirama...
in top tier list u put naruto... current naruto is now par with hashirama or even above of him. so he should be either in god tier list or in upper top tier list
Well for example, Kakashi and Gai should be a tier above imo. There is no reason for Kisame to be there and not Kakashi and Gai when Gai defeated Kisame [
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They have repeatedly already proved during this war that they are one of the strongest in the alliance shinobi, doing even better job than the Kages themselves, especially Kakashi who can virtually fight with opponents from any level from Obito, to Juubi, going through Gedo Mazo
His only weakness has always been chakra, but it's only an issue when talking about days of battle since let's not forget he fought during 2days in this war before running out of chakra, showing an incredible amount of stamina and adaptation in his jutsu use
Kakashi has also shown to rival Obito in genjutsu and is the superior shinobi when Kamui isn't involved. He may not use it as much as Obito but even considering Kamui, he has shown to be more skilful than Obito. Because of this i don't think Kakashi is that far away from him
True but Gai managed to beat him coz he don't have Samehada IMO
Ur reasons are good but most of feats of Kakashi in war involves the help from others though they are still impressive .also I forgot the fact that Kakashi has been portrayed as stronger than Kisame since part 1...even Itachi said something like that......I'll move them up..Thank u..
None of thse guys can beat him though be might have a chance since he can use TBB against which Body liquefying or oral rebirth is useless..but Bee is bit careless while fighting ,Kabuto can take advantage of it...
