Naruto Tier List Version 6.1

[Neutra1 Knight]

Sage mode naruto's clone defeated sandaime raikage in canon
Sage mode naruto was dominating 50% kurama throughout their fight.

Unless someone says Pein arc SM Naruto > Pein, no he's not overated at all.

Sage Mode Naruto didn't truly beat Kurama. As shown by feats on the outside, Kurama is truly far more powerful than depicted than inside Narutos head and SM Naruto is far weaker than in Naruto's head. Essentially that whole fight is negligible due to it being in Narutos head. It's almos like a Genjutsu


A SM Naruto clone already beat third Raikage. There's no two ways about SM Naruto being better.

 

[lanakui8]

Sage Mode Naruto didn't truly beat Kurama. As shown by feats on the outside, Kurama is truly far more powerful than depicted than inside Narutos head and SM Naruto is far weaker than in Naruto's head. Essentially that whole fight is negligible due to it being in Narutos head. It's almos like a Genjutsu

hold on a second, why was 50% Kurama far weaker than he was in naruto's head and how was SM Naruto far stronger in his mind than in the real world? What feats do you have to back up those bold assertions?

Also, it's laughable that you think kishi would make one of the most decisive and hyped up fights in the naruto manga one that is 'negligible' or does't count.

A SM Naruto clone already beat third Raikage. There's no two ways about SM Naruto being better.

 

[Neutra1 Knight]

hold on a second, why was 50% Kurama far weaker than he was in naruto's head and how was SM Naruto far stronger in his mind than in the real world? What feats do you have to back up those bold assertions?

Also, it's laughable that you think kishi would make one of the most decisive and hyped up fights in the naruto manga one that is 'negligible' or does't count.

The fact that Naruto hasnt even come close to accomplishing anything even close to that outside his mind.

And vice versa, Kurama has shown to be far superior through Naruto.

 

[lanakui8]

The fact that Naruto hasnt even come close to accomplishing anything even close to that outside his mind.

lol what are you talking about? The raw outcome of the battle in no way means naruto was any more or less powerful while inside his mind. What FEATS did he display in his mind that he could not do while outside? Was he faster? STronger? More durable? Had way more chakra?

If you base it on just raw accomplishments rather than feats, then even then you are wrong since outside of his mind a mere sage mode clone defeated a guy who was equal to the hachibi, and thus it in no way makes the real naruto defeating 50% Kyuubi invalid.

And vice versa, Kurama has shown to be far superior through Naruto.

what are you talking about? What exact feat did 50% Kurama display outside of his mind versus inside? Was he physically weaker in his mind? Was he less durable? Was he slower?

You're basically just asserting an opinion without giving any evidence for it. I could just as easily claim Naruto was weaker in his mind and kurama was stronger and it would mean the exact same thing as what you are doing since neither of us have given any evidence to support your assertions.

 

[Neutra1 Knight]

lol what are you talking about? The raw outcome of the battle in no way means naruto was any more or less powerful while inside his mind. What FEATS did he display in his mind that he could not do while outside? Was he faster? STronger? More durable? Had way more chakra?

If you base it on just raw accomplishments rather than feats, then even then you are wrong since outside of his mind a mere sage mode clone defeated a guy who was equal to the hachibi, and thus it in no way makes the real naruto defeating 50% Kyuubi invalid.


what are you talking about? What exact feat did 50% Kurama display outside of his mind versus inside? Was he physically weaker in his mind? Was he less durable? Was he slower?

You're basically just asserting an opinion without giving any evidence for it. I could just as easily claim Naruto was weaker in his mind and kurama was stronger and it would mean the exact same thing as what you are doing since neither of us have given any evidence to support your assertions.

Outside, Naruti hasn't shown anything that would allow him to dodge Bijudama or use that many clones while all using Big Ball Rasengans.

Why don't you show Narutos feats on the outside that puts him even close to where he was inside his head?

Even DemonicAvenger calls BS on that fight and he's the guy that made a thread on how Naruto is stronger than Edo Madara.

 

[lanakui8]

Outside, Naruti hasn't shown anything that would allow him to dodge Bijudama

bijuudamas only move as quickly as FRS, clone spam is another counter, and he has super shunshin and super durability in SM. And bijuudama explosions are far weaker than getting hit directly with the attack, that's how taka and suigetsu, deva and orochimaru all survived the blast without much damage.

or use that many clones while all using Big Ball Rasengans.

In sage mode, his clone limit only applies if he has clones elsewhere gathering chakra, if he does not have them doing that he can make as many as he wants to. In the very pein fight he made countless clones while in SM and had them disguise as rocks.

His base clone empowered with a tiny bit of Kurama's chakra was able to use an army of clones weilding giant rasengans. Against Pain, he had the chakra to use at the very least 8 FRS, and in the kyuubi fight we saw that a FRS did far more damage than SM COR barrage. Also, if he was to fight the kyuubi outside of his mind, then it would not be sealed in him and thus he would be able to fuse with Ma and Pa for indefinite sage mode.

Why don't you show Narutos feats on the outside that puts him even close to where he was inside his head?

okay, he tossed Kurama to the ground, replicated by his physical strength feat of tossing pein's - rhino boss summon into the sky.
- We already know he can use FRS.
What else?
- 25+ SM COR can be done if he is fused with ma and pa for indefinite sage mode considering his clone's war arc feats and the fact that naruto way back in the fuuton arc has the reserves to have 200 clones each using wind rasengans for hours and hours.
- dodging chakra tails is something granted with his enhanced physical power and sage sensing

Even DemonicAvenger calls BS on that fight and he's the guy that made a thread on how Naruto is stronger than Edo Madara.

now hold on, calling BS on that fight would mean plot induced stupidity rather than characters having more power than they have in the outside world. In addition to that, it could just be that the guy is a Kurama fan rather than a Naruto fan which would be why he opts ot make BM Naruto stronger than MAdara while Sage Naruto far weaker than Kurama.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

now hold on, calling BS on that fight would mean plot induced stupidity rather than characters having more power than they have in the outside world. In addition to that, it could just be that the guy is a Kurama fan rather than a Naruto fan which would be why he opts ot make BM Naruto stronger than MAdara while Sage Naruto far weaker than Kurama.

Naruto and a Kurama fan actually

But Neutral is right. Naruto and Kurama's power levels were greatly construed while undergoing the Fight inside of Naruto. That and there's a lot of factual errors in this post.

I might fix it later after I finish my run of RE 6. Though I might just leave this up to someone else. I've been around for so long on so many forums that there's isn't an argument I haven't participated in a thousand times :/

 

[lanakui8]

Naruto and a Kurama fan actually

But Neutral is right. Naruto and Kurama's power levels were greatly construed while undergoing the Fight inside of Naruto. That and there's a lot of factual errors in this post.

I might fix it later after I finish my run of RE 6. Though I might just leave this up to someone else. I've been around for so long on so many forums that there's isn't an argument I haven't participated in a thousand times :/

okay, ill be waiting for your response then.

 

[shelke]

Naruto and Sasuke aren't equals. Not by a long shot.

Now before you pull the typical Sasuke fanboy argument of "Kishi said so"

No. Kishi did not say so. Kishi said that they progress as equals, and when he powers up one character he's thinking about the other one. Therefore, they are not equals at all times.

Sasuke hasn't shown to even compare to Naruto with just RM. Much less S-RM or BM

Which is nothing BUT you grasping at straws just like that time with Amaterasu having a prep time. I am still waiting on that explanation. But, case in point, this list is much less hogwash than your last one.

 

[Neutra1 Knight]

Which is nothing BUT you grasping at straws just like that time with Amaterasu having a prep time. I am still waiting on that explanation. But, case in point, this list is much less hogwash than your last one.

That post is true.

Your just an ignorant Uchiha fanboy like big blade or ItachiStyle. Which is why no one bothers to try to reason with you.

You also used case in point in a wrong fashion. I suggest you educate yourself a bit before trying to sound intelligent.

 

[shelke]

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@Neutra1Knight

Case in point:

A relevant example or illustration of something, as in A case in point was the collision of a cyclist with a pedestrian crossing the designated bike path.
A pertinent previous case for a similar occurrence.

And it's You're or You are. NOT Your. Why don't you educate yourself first? You just made yourself look like a general paradigm of stupidity. Good job.

 

[SeriousDogg]

lol Sasori on Kage level and Guy on freaking High Kage?

Sasori solos most of High Kage level, how Utakata higher than Sasori how?

Sasori>Guy, Sasori>all Jins, Sasori>Kakashi.

and why are you placing Kabuto twice? Edo tensei is one of his jutsus there isnt with or without, its like you say Minato with or without Hirashin.

Sasori is also stronger than Jiraiya and Orochimaru and surly stronger than Kisame