Naruto > the 4th hokage

[Ōkami]

well children are suppose to surpass their parents

 

[Monster nagato]

Naruto>Nagato :sy:

that is not my top 5 and yes nagato> naruto

because bm km rasengan tbb useless sm clones get shira tensei no need for him to absorb them when animals or asura can take care of them this is my top 5

edo madara
obito/nagato
nagato/obito
naruto
hashirama

 

[itachifan7]

Naruto=Nagato

 

[6pathofpain]

Naruto better leave minato allow. Not only can minato dodge everything naruto can use he can also seal 9 tails chakra and stop narutos power. And minato made a blood pack.with the frogs same as.naruto so naruto won't be able to use them for sage mode. Can anyone explain how naruto wins?

 

[Minator93]

Minato owns Tobi in less than 2minutes. Naruto can't even hit Tobi without Kakashis help and they were four(Naruto, Kakashi, Gai and Bee). How can he touch Minato if he can't even touch Tobi? If he uses TBB, Minato can redirect it to him, so he will only kill himself. If he wants to speedblitz Minato, he risk to get marked by him and if he manages to do so, he is done for. So only chance is to use KM clones as feints and use this opportunity to catch Minato off-guard, but is it happening? Not sure. Minato can tag every place in the battlefield, so can teleport in an instant everywhere there are his markings. Naruto on the other side can fail to realise one of these markings, which could lead to his defeat. It's funny that some people think that Naruto will win easily. Naruto have to actually think about what he is doing, cuz if he does only one error, it could mean his death. That's why i think this fight could go either way. It depends on certain circumstances. Even the battlefield will be really important to determine the winner

This. + Minato is the one who did the Eight Trigrams Seal so he can undo it. [Remember he used Contrsct seal to take Kurama from Obito] Also

Minato Intelligence >> Naruto Intelligence
Minato Reflexes >> Naruto Reflexes [Unless its SM]
Minato Analytic skills >> Naruto Analytic Skills
Minato Experience >> Naruto Experience
Minato Rasengan >> Naruto Rasengan [unless SM or above]

And there's RDS which is the checkmate but the catch is Minato will die as well. From this we can say that Minato will at least take Naruto with him if not beating him U_U

Naruto has more raw power + chakra + stamina but that's not gonna make him win against an opponent like Minato. Simply Put Minato happenes to be Naruto's WORST Match-up U_U

 

[Bogard]

naruto isnt fighting in a battle of speed is he and you act like naruto no to attack him when he materialize

If he is not fighting in a battle of speed. In which battle is he fighting then? He wants to hurt Tobi, so he obviously need to surpass him in speed. Also, you're wrong about the bold part. He knows:

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also minato had nothing to kill naruto with minato cannot summong ma and pa lmfao you need sage mode if not jiraiya would not have waste all that time running around when he could just summon them and use frog song also

Really? Are you saying that Naruto is immune to rasengan, now? He is immune to a reverse four element seal? He is immune to Eight trigramm seal? He is immune to Death God? Also where does this BS come from that Minato can't summon Ma and Pa. They are special now? It's stated that someone who enters into contract with one toad can summon all toads:

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Something that Kishimoto himself admitted again:

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You're wrong concerning Jiraya. The problem was not summoning Pa and Ma. He wanted to summon them directly in Sage Mode, so he needed to accumulate Sage Chakra, and it's the reason why it took a lot of time. Summoning them is not problem. Hell even Gamakichi was able to summon Pa and Naruto:

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Ma also summoned Pa along with Naruto, Gamabunta and other toads:

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I don't know where you got the idea that summoning them was a problem

tobi didnt go head up with naruto on kurama back witch is to fast for him to see your vision always > your reactions minato gets rape inside in out do you want me to post a full fight with the intent to kill naruto rapes minato cannot even beat sm let alone bm

Like i've said it's your opinion, and i can't change your way of thinking. Me i think otherwise, like i also think that Minato is stronger than Nagato, but you think otherwise

 

[TurrinB]

I disagree, just look at the recent fight. Naruto even with help from Gai, Kakashi, and B is struggling more than Minato did solo to counter Obito's Kamui. Aside from that all of Minato's feats have been equally as impressive as Naruto's if not more so. Also Minato has better hype and portrayal than Naruto. With that said I think Naruto has certainly closed most of the gap, but he hasn't proven himself to be superior just yet. Perhaps by the end of this battle, though he might still yet need another power up.

 

[Monster nagato]

This. + Minato is the one who did the Eight Trigrams Seal so he can undo it. [Remember he used Contrsct seal to take Kurama from Obito] Also

Minato Intelligence >> Naruto Intelligence
Minato Reflexes >> Naruto Reflexes [Unless its SM]
Minato Analytic skills >> Naruto Analytic Skills
Minato Experience >> Naruto Experience
Minato Rasengan >> Naruto Rasengan [unless SM or above]

And there's RDS which is the checkmate but the catch is Minato will die as well. From this we can say that Minato will at least take Naruto with him if not beating him U_U

Naruto has more raw power + chakra + stamina but that's not gonna make him win against an opponent like Minato. Simply Put Minato happenes to be Naruto's WORST Match-up U_U

no minato never made giant rasengan narutp speed>minato reactions time naruto is minato worst opponent hes actually like minato just with more powers

If he is not fighting in a battle of speed. In which battle is he fighting then? He wants to hurt Tobi, so he obviously need to surpass him in speed. Also, you're wrong about the bold part. He knows:

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Really? Are you saying that Naruto is immune to rasengan, now? He is immune to a reverse four element seal? He is immune to Eight trigramm seal? He is immune to Death God? Also where does this BS come from that Minato can't summon Ma and Pa. They are special now? It's stated that someone who enters into contract with one toad can summon all toads:

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Something that Kishimoto himself admitted again:

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You're wrong concerning Jiraya. The problem was not summoning Pa and Ma. He wanted to summon them directly in Sage Mode, so he needed to accumulate Sage Chakra, and it's the reason why it took a lot of time. Summoning them is not problem. Hell even Gamakichi was able to summon Pa and Naruto:

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Ma also summoned Pa along with Naruto, Gamabunta and other toads:

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I don't know where you got the idea that summoning them was a problem

Like i've said it's your opinion, and i can't change your way of thinking. Me i think otherwise, like i also think that Minato is stronger than Nagato, but you think otherwise

he used the kage bushin to help him hit obito nothing with speed was envoled also as you stated before he needed enough sage chakra to summon them so by your logic kid naruto can can summong ma & pa

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naruto cannot have summon them because he had no sage energy then also as for sealing speed naruto speed is above that of minato base no one has never been able to not see his movements he need ftg and everyfight he needed to dodge A with ftg while naruto simply just ran out the way and bm is even more faster to prove minato ftg wouldnt even activate while naruto will already have him done also he isnt imune to rasengan naruto can alot and he also heals with kurama he can tank alot also his clone army 15 km 3 sm 2 bm they can cover every spot minato is about to ftg also


nagato rapes minato your only arguments is a killing him with a kunai when asura path counter that also his sensor and linked vision not attacks are on the blind nagato rapes minato worst than naruto he can last 30 second when nagato is blood thirsty

 

[Minator93]

I wasn't talking about Giant Rasengan, I was talkin about Base Rasengan

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Minato's base rasengan does far more damage then Naruto's or even Jiraya's Base Rasengan. The ground on which they were fighting got destroyed [If you want much neater explanation watch end of episode 248]

Also its pretty clear that Minato Reflexex >> Naruto's or speed even I can post he manga pages [about Tobi and Naruto 1 on 1 snd Minato and Tobi 1 on 1, Also of A vs Minato and A vs Naruto] but too bored to do that.

And Again Minato is his worst Match-up. And why did you forget to mention/counter about RDS?? What happened there??

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

I disagree. Speed > power. Naruto has speed but minatos is faster and has better reflexes. Naruto can't land a hit on obito without kakashi. What makes you think he could strike the legendary yellow flash? I see minato winning due to intelligence and use s/t barrier whenever naruto fires off a tbb.

 

[Monster nagato]

I wasn't talking about Giant Rasengan, I was talkin about Base Rasengan

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Minato's base rasengan does far more damage then Naruto's or even Jiraya's Base Rasengan. The ground on which they were fighting got destroyed [If you want much neater explanation watch end of episode 248]

Also its pretty clear that Minato Reflexex >> Naruto's or speed even I can post he manga pages [about Tobi and Naruto 1 on 1 snd Minato and Tobi 1 on 1, Also of A vs Minato and A vs Naruto] but too bored to do that.

And Again Minato is his worst Match-up. And why did you forget to mention/counter about RDS?? What happened there??

I disagree. Speed > power. Naruto has speed but minatos is faster and has better reflexes. Naruto can't land a hit on obito without kakashi. What makes you think he could strike the legendary yellow flash? I see minato winning due to intelligence and use s/t barrier whenever naruto fires off a tbb.

because he cant hit tobi so there fighting styles are different these aruments are terrible and also naruto rasengan did more damage to fake itachi then his did to obito also they naruto can outlast minato chakra minato isnt winning this fight people are insane done even compare these obito current obito would rape minato ease

 

[6pathofpain]

because he cant hit tobi so there fighting styles are different these aruments are terrible and also naruto rasengan did more damage to fake itachi then his did to obito also they naruto can outlast minato chakra minato isnt winning this fight people are insane done even compare these obito current obito would rape minato ease

How does naruto win? And what makes this new obito so much stronger? The rinnegan which seems to only do shit to tailed beast? He hasn't shown one path or one thing to lead us to believe his fight with minato will be different. But back on topic, naruto has just as good a chance if not less as good a chance of hitting minato with rasegan, TBB is counter easily. Minato can also seal tailed beast chakra easily with one hand, naruto can't use ma an pa for anything or genjustu or really any of the frogs since minato also made a blood pack with the toads sooooo...naruto wins how? O yea and minato is waaaaaaay smarter.

 

[Minator93]

because he cant hit tobi so there fighting styles are different these aruments are terrible and also naruto rasengan did more damage to fake itachi then his did to obito also they naruto can outlast minato chakra minato isnt winning this fight people are insane done even compare these obito current obito would rape minato ease

Sorry for taking you seriously. Your arguments show that you are no older than 14. I won't bother myself replying you from now on.

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

There is a reason why naruto at his current form is being compared to minato. Both kyuubi mode naruto compared to minato and bijuu mode. This is not a coincidence. Minato is still slightly better than naruto.

 

[Monster nagato]

How does naruto win? And what makes this new obito so much stronger? The rinnegan which seems to only do shit to tailed beast? He hasn't shown one path or one thing to lead us to believe his fight with minato will be different. But back on topic, naruto has just as good a chance if not less as good a chance of hitting minato with rasegan, TBB is counter easily. Minato can also seal tailed beast chakra easily with one hand, naruto can't use ma an pa for anything or genjustu or really any of the frogs since minato also made a blood pack with the toads sooooo...naruto wins how? O yea and minato is waaaaaaay smarter.

minato only sealed kurama inside naruto and the reaper he does not posses the ability to seal his chakra without using that tech also his seal been broken/changed since minato tamperd with it and naruto made a blood pack with the toads aswell but he couldnt use ma & pa untill he gained sm and obito has 6 edo jinchurikins thats a big difference minato died taken care of one

Sorry for taking you seriously. Your arguments show that you are no older than 14. I won't bother myself replying you from now on.

im 17 actually and it what does age have to do with this debate your logic is abc minato hit tobi naruto cannot there for you think he can beat naruto please sm naruto is above minato the arguments you gave was crap so dont reply unless your backing ur statements up with facts

 

[Bogard]

Sorry for taking you seriously. Your arguments show that you are no older than 14. I won't bother myself replying you from now on.

My thoughts exactly. It's even the reason why i stopped the discussion with him U_U

 

[BloodSeed]

minato only sealed kurama inside naruto and the reaper he does not posses the ability to seal his chakra without using that tech also his seal been broken/changed since minato tamperd with it and naruto made a blood pack with the toads aswell but he couldnt use ma & pa untill he gained sm and obito has 6 edo jinchurikins thats a big difference minato died taken care of one


im 17 actually and it what does age have to do with this debate your logic is abc minato hit tobi naruto cannot there for you think he can beat naruto please sm naruto is above minato the arguments you gave was crap so dont reply unless your backing ur statements up with facts

:rofl: lol 17? dafaq you are not legal to state your opinion :rofl:

 

[6pathofpain]

minato only sealed kurama inside naruto and the reaper he does not posses the ability to seal his chakra without using that tech also his seal been broken/changed since minato tamperd with it and naruto made a blood pack with the toads aswell but he couldnt use ma & pa untill he gained sm and obito has 6 edo jinchurikins thats a big difference minato died taken care of one


im 17 actually and it what does age have to do with this debate your logic is abc minato hit tobi naruto cannot there for you think he can beat naruto please sm naruto is above minato the arguments you gave was crap so dont reply unless your backing ur statements up with facts

Was a difference, 6 bodies are gone. Gedo satue will never hit minato and the giant toads will jump Tue shit outta theat statue. And minato knows many see's and a few that simply surpress the chakra.
And what was the part about ma an pa about? My point is that he can't use any of the toads, mainly sound genjutsu . And sage mode is not enough to beat minato simple as.that

 

[Simple Math]

so a thread saying naruto > minato without even 1 sentence explanation turned into an argue threads and possible will reach hottest? cool!

naruto might already have surpassed minato.. can go eiter way depends on the location

 

[BloodSeed]

minato>current naruto.