Naruto surpassed Hashirama?

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Naruto only surprassed him when he received Hagoromo's chakra. So in my book Hashi os still superior, seeing that the contender needed that the creator of Ninshuu himself to give him a powerup to surprass him

Superior in which way.
 

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Superior in which way.


Because he managed to go to a semigod tier whitout Bijuu influence or Ootsuki chakra. I know that he is a Senju and all but even so that's a fantastic feat.
 

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Because he managed to go to a semigod tier whitout Bijuu influence or Ootsuki chakra. I know that he is a Senju and all but even so that's a fantastic feat.

Thanks to what? Hint hint, hagoromo's family.
 

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Thanks to what? Hint hint, hagoromo's family.

I know... :rolleyes: but I was obviously not taking in account stuff that they both had (being an Ashura tranmingrant and having chakra from the Shinju tree)..
 

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Thanks to what? Hint hint, hagoromo's family.

I think Hashirama is more acceptable by readers on his own power compared to Naruto.

Yes all Power in NV cames from Otsutsuki family and Shinju for the most part. But for Hashirama his power is more likes his own overall.

No offence.
 
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