Naruto stronger without kurama

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naruto without kurama is already kage level due to rasenshuriken and sage mode, but yeah he probably would be stronger if kurama had never been sealed in him. he would most likely have rasenshuriken,sage mode,FTG,toad summonings, sealing techs.
 

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Naruto is the main character, so if it wasn't Kurama it would be something else. Naruto is going to be very powerful one way or another. Just like in every Shounen manga and action story period.
 

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Does it even matter what happens? Naruto still has Toad Summons, Rasenshurikens/Rasengans variants, very good speed strength, Sage Mode, KB, deceptive strategy, and ninja tools. He still can fairly beat/take on most opponents in the damn NV.

Even if Kishimoto's did take away Naruto's Tailed Beast, the author still find ways to make him powerful to equal his rival Sasuke. Just like Kishi took away Oro's CM from Sasuke, he gives him MS to make up for it; same thing will be done for Naruto.
 

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Your missing the most vital point uchiha fan.No kurumah = Minato and Kushina alive.
He'd still lose to Uchiha's who use genjutsu(Itachi and Sasuke) due to the lack of a tailed beast snapping him out of it but you can't deny that Naruto would be more versitle without Kurumah(not stronger).

Kushina can teach him sealing moves and Minato can teach Naruto all the things Kakashi taught him.Maybe he could've learned the FTG technique.

He wouldn't have the shadow clone jutsu since he stole the scroll to master that so basically Naruto would be a result of Minato and J man.

Naruto's weaker without Kurumah but he's still stronger than top teir characters(3rd Raikage ect).
So w/o Kurama Naruto is stronger than a Kage but not stronger than an Uchiha?.....riiiight....
 

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Are you ****ing retarded. Minato vs Masked Man/Tobito. Dunno which manga you've been reading but this is Naruto.
Oh really? Without Kurama he still has sage mode making him at least low Kage level. Even Shikaku says he's on another level once he gained it.
Are you?!
Is the real question.
Obito haven't even gained Susano'o.

& Uchiha are smart Don't count Obito.
Obito failed.

Sooo... If you noticed the only technique that's actually minatos is rasengan.
Sooo.. I don't see where your coming from.

& Also Minato can't Defeat , Sasuke or Itachi.

& to classify an Uchiha are there Taijutsu & Genjutsu.
Which Obito can use.

But, if you noticed Naruto, has been near death 3 or more times.
If it Wasent for Kurama.
That's all he relies on.
 

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Now before you write anything stupid you have to read everything! If Naruto wouldn't have Kurama in his body, he would be stronger than he is now ,When he is not using kurama of course. Kakashi said that Naruto without Kurama would have about 200 times more in his chakra reserves. And that is pretty much and you can't decline it. He would be able to do so much more and I just want to tell the people that says that Naruto would be nothing without Kurama.. NO! He would be 200 times stronger! but that naruto compared to biju mode Naruto right now That is another question..
Kakashi never stated the he would have 200 times his chakra reserves. Naruto's chakra is actually larger due to having Kurama sealed in him. He would have more chakra control but that is it.
 

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Kakashi never stated the he would have 200 times his chakra reserves. Naruto's chakra is actually larger due to having Kurama sealed in him. He would have more chakra control but that is it.
Captain Yamato said during the Sasuke and Sai arc that a portion of Naruto's chakra was diverted to the seal. The seal uses Naruto's own power to keep the 9 tails at bay. So he would have a larger chakra reserve but not 200 times.

Probably a fourth more then what he has now, or maybe twice more.
 
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