yip fully agree shippuuden isn't nearly as good as part1,but you left out other stuff like the garbage soundtract that shippuuden has,terrible animation seriously even now in the war arc its a disgrace.kishi also chose to go with steriods rather than charater strength developments.what i mean by that is the 2 year gap was nothing more than a means for the younger gen to look older.naruto became almost 100x more power then when he was on his so called 2year training.cheap power up no skill involved with all these modes.then theres the war arc edo tensei what a joke.kabuto said he's using it to give them the mental edge but instead it brought brothers together,reunited lovers love,dead senseis got in touch with his pupils so epic fail on kabutos part.this is more of a soapie now.
Naruto should just now f-ing end!!!
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And whats the point of ending it when there is so much to be solved ,
i.e. tobi identity
And whats the point of ending it when there is so much to be solved ,
i.e. tobi identity
Kyle Dimetri
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Kyle Dimetri
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bcuz at the time naruto wasn't going so much downhill. why do you continue to view it as an awesome anime? and no i no longer give a fuk about tobi's identity. he could be wiz kahlifa for all i care
I really don't want it to ever end but I couple loose ends should be tied up. Some storylines get dragged out too much and a new beginning would be nice after a while. At the moment, I'm getting the feeling that everything is stuck for so long. Every new chapter is just a minute in realtime and there are alot of different things happening and nothing gets finished. I just wish it would progress abit more.
ShippudenRules
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Sorry but NO. Shippuden>>>>>>>>>>>Original Naruto by far.
-Bigger world
-Better and more EPIC fights by far (part 1 was 75% taijutsu and 20% jutsus and 5% genjutsus). Also, less kids aka Konoha 11 and more TOP TIER NINJAS
-Darker and more death
-Akatsuki (this alone makes it better then the original)
-The war which is actually quite good if u read it from the start till now
-A lot of revelations
-All the kages,their history + bodygards and samurais
-Naruto is less annoying
Also, the big guy in the video is a One Piece fanboy and UwanaSasuke doesn't like anything and bitch about each and every chapter. This is THEIR opinion so who cares.
To conclude, why would Kishi stop lmao.
-Since 2000, only One Piece sold more mangas and Naruto is 3rd on the all time sells list with 125 million copy
-This is the 7th consecutive year that Naruto is 2nd in sells behind One Piece.
-Is 90% of the time well rank on the Weekly Shonen Jump magazine.
-9 movies (3 Naruto and 6 Shippuden)
-Shit load of videos games
When it's all said and done, Naruto and One Piece will be the two greatest mangas of all time
Facts>>>>Your opinion, have a good day!!!
-Bigger world
-Better and more EPIC fights by far (part 1 was 75% taijutsu and 20% jutsus and 5% genjutsus). Also, less kids aka Konoha 11 and more TOP TIER NINJAS
-Darker and more death
-Akatsuki (this alone makes it better then the original)
-The war which is actually quite good if u read it from the start till now
-A lot of revelations
-All the kages,their history + bodygards and samurais
-Naruto is less annoying
Also, the big guy in the video is a One Piece fanboy and UwanaSasuke doesn't like anything and bitch about each and every chapter. This is THEIR opinion so who cares.
To conclude, why would Kishi stop lmao.
-Since 2000, only One Piece sold more mangas and Naruto is 3rd on the all time sells list with 125 million copy
-This is the 7th consecutive year that Naruto is 2nd in sells behind One Piece.
-Is 90% of the time well rank on the Weekly Shonen Jump magazine.
-9 movies (3 Naruto and 6 Shippuden)
-Shit load of videos games
When it's all said and done, Naruto and One Piece will be the two greatest mangas of all time
Facts>>>>Your opinion, have a good day!!!
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Kyle Dimetri
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Seriously dude? Seriously?!?! The anime has turn into some carebears bullshyt with EVERY1 wants peace in some fuked up ways example Kabuto, Pein and that Tobi freak who got the powers of 7 demons to FORCE peace on others!! That doesn't even make sense to use a demonic power to gain peace but to also force peace on others by creating an illusionary world for everyone and taking away their freedom. Kabuto's story was just AWFUL and his plot to make every1 fight DEAD PEOPLE (have many times have i seen this in the anime?!) turns out to be some family reunion shit. FAIL!!
Akatsuki died faster than a dude with a bullet lodge between his head. I mean Kakuzu who fopught the 1st hokage got fooled by clones. WOW. Even now Orichimaru isn't dead but remembers everything even though his mind is supposed to be eternally trapoed in a genjustu to be tormented. Kisame went out out like a bitch. Sasori was defeated so fuking easily by grandma chiyo and sakura and then got major trolled when he gave up just bcuz kankuro saw his art. Konan's death was just unnecessary, and oh my god Pein. I mean an entire village couldn't take on two peins yet Naruto killed one with a single punch. WOW U_U and you say that was the best part. Tsh.
The deaths weren't that dark--- when Kisame was being eaten, you didn't see his body parts all over the place, Pein got killed by a rasengan, danzo turned into the tree of life, you didn't get to see the pipe being shoved through Konan, etc. Only Asuma and Jariya's death i would say were the darkest.
What Kage history? you must be talking about Minato
Fights in Naruto pt1 are just as good (if not better) than those in Shippudden. And you say the war is good?!?!?! you must be new to anime my friend. Again go watch Hellsing Ultimate to see a real war
And by the way, who gives a fuk about sales? Sure One Piece and Naruto will be remembered. Why? Because they are shounen mangas/anime just like Fairy Tail and people eat that action shit up. So your last point was invalid like a fake ID
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no just no selling a product is more about how you market it and not so much how good it is.only i can explain lil waynes success.anyway you're ignoring the problems with shipp comparing one to 2 and it looses in almost every aspect.as for the war you call that epic??80% flash backs of stuff we know coz we watched it and 20% bad animation fighting.also character growth is a complete fail in shipp.naruto and sasuke are now 100x stonger than what they were after training for 2years under sennins and they acomplished this in like what a month??no my friend.kishi powered up these characters in a way that needs no skill or much training.at least in one piece they also had a 2 year training skip to develope the characters but there their power ups were actual strenght developments based on there individual trates.in shipp naruto seems so akward fighting tobi because he's fighting with modes that doesn't reflect any skill he previously had just burst of power.
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I agree. Don't get me wrong i enjoy part II, but part I had more balance with the character's power, tons of good moments, focus on all the characters, the emotional episodes were so real and touching, good animation, and good plot that would make us wait to see what's next. Everyone had a part in the show. Sure it focused on Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura, and Kakashi. But the others weren't left on the curb waiting for attention.
Part II began great. We saw the growth of all the Konoha 11. Akatsuki came in the picture and it was all good. We saw new people, places, match-ups, and good material. The problem is that Kishimoto puts the Konoha 11 in too many fillers and not enough main story wise. As the show progressed he was focusing too much on Naruto and Sasuke. But did others did get time just not enough like in Part I. I will say the war has been disappointing indeed. The war ended too quickly. I mean look at Madara and Tobi! They have been fighting for more than 30 chapters, while the others went down in 1, 2, maybe 5 chapters? So i agree that Part I had better plot.
ShippudenRules
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Who is talking about the anime? I'm talking about the manga. The anime of Naruto is a bit above average at best. The way the akatsuki died was OK but that was only for the ending. What way did you want them to die? Each member of akatsuki had EPIC fights before their death.
Sorry but I'm far from new to anime lol. I read/watch almost every popular shonen + seinen. I've already watch and have all the mangas of hellsing. What you want is pure mayhem and carnage which isn't going to happen in Naruto and most shonen mangas. Helsing is a seinen and Naruto a shonen, you can't compare them.
Also, I said the war is good (7/10) not fantastic. If u read it from the beginning till now, you'll see that it's not boring. Yes, Kishi should kill some char. and some fight could've been more intense and longer.
One more thing, if you really think that Bleach is better then Naruto, then this discussion is over because Bleach has been going down hill for a while in sales and ratings. Even on the WSJ (it's publisher), it's doing extremely bad in Japan and that's a fact.
I've seem worst mangas getting praised by the fans aka Bleach, Negima and Code Breakers. All of them have been going down hill except for Negima. It was great and then it ended. The ending of this manga was the worst BULLSHIT i've ever seen in my life and people still continue to like it. People can talk bad of Naruto all they want, it won't change anything. This manga will go down has one of the greatest(top 3 easily) shonen and one of the best manga overall (shonen, seinen etc). Some people's opinion won't change that and you know it. Let Kishi continue HIS STORY instead of wanting to change everything. Oh, by the way Shippuden>>>>Original Naruto.
ShippudenRules
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The war, 80% flashbacks. I don't know which manga you've been reading but it's not Naruto. This war is not perfect, I know it. But when you take the time to read it from 515 till 596, you'll see that it's quite good (7/10, maybe more). One Piece and Naruto are two different mangas, we can't really compare them since one is in it's climax and the other one is half way done. How do you know that only a month pass bye? Naruto and Sasuke are really powerful but many char. can still defeat them.
Naruto and Sasuke became stronger because the plot needed it. This manga is almost 600 chapters long so of course they were going to get stronger faster. I'm telling you, one day, the same thing will happen in One Piece that's already close to 700 chapters.
Sorry for double posting
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Kyle Dimetri
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naruto will never go down as the top three neither as an anime nor a manga bcuz those spots are already taken by Dragonball, One Piece and FMA so sorry dude. I was talking about the anime and manga. how the hell could i mention one and the other even though they follow each other VERY closely. I've seen my prediction of you was right, you only watch one genre of anime/read one genre of manga so you obivously wouldn't recognize quality. Even though naruto is shounen where i won't see much carnage, i mean dude its an all out war. Sure Kishi could do a whole lot better, at least kill someone who isn't already dead. So yes its not boring, its a a disgrace. Your right i can't compare one piece to naruto where one piece keeps getting better even though its long which makes the anime an exception for being able to keep its awesomeness while gravity is making its effect known on the other
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ShippudenRules
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I like Dragon Ball but it's not better then Naruto. I don't read One Piece and FMA is fantastic so I partially agree. You're saying that Naruto is a disgrace but in one other post, you said that Bleach was better. Don't make me laugh. The battle for Karakura town was one of the biggest bullshit ever. No death, bad guys getting trolled and some off panel battles. Don't get me started with the fullbring arc that was god awful.
I don't read only one style of manga, I read almost every genre going from battle mangas to ecchi. Drama, adventure, horror etc. I'm curious, which mangas do you believe that are good? I'll see what kind of quality you're talking about.
irishboy9780
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I like Shippuden more than the orginal series. The only thing i don't like is how OP some characters have become but it is an overall better power scale. Akatsuki and much more Bad ass battles in shippuden tbh (Although the sasuke retrival arc is def top 3 for quality of battles).
Invsblphntm
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yes they were forced to become strong quickly like the script wasn't set up correct and they had to adjust quickly to adjust.look i like naruto but i'm ot gonna look past the obvious flaws.edo tensei is a huge fail bringing back is always risky rather bring new threaths.it's like saying only dead people are strong enough to be final villian