Naruto Shippuden Episodes 427 & 428 Discussion

[Tachondar]

It's a bit strange that she knew she was in a dream and that it wasn't completely her world, but the world from Road to Ninja. Also there's no Naruto, but a Menma.
The creators of the anime took a walk with Tentens Tsukuyomi and did their own thing, which I didn't like...

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Complete garbage.
This doesn't have anything to do with Mugen Tsukuyomi.
It is supposed to be the perfect dream world, without knowing that you are dreaming. Fights do not belong in there, as well as some awful filler-movie character-versions. I hate this road to ninja crap so bad ~_~
How is Studio Pierrot able to screw things up THAT MUCH?

She knows neji died tho. Mugen tsukuyomi never said anything about erasing memories. It it worked out in the end since she eventually accepted the matrix.... I mean Mugen tsukuyomi.

 

[Jack Spicer]

#NejiTen

An all Tenten episode=10/10

 

[artondrius]

She knows neji died tho. Mugen tsukuyomi never said anything about erasing memories. It it worked out in the end since she eventually accepted the matrix.... I mean Mugen tsukuyomi.

If it's meant to function the same way as a standard dream, she would not know things like Neji is dead or a war is happening.

 

[LUMOS ULTIMATUM]

They messed up the concept of the infinite tsukuyomi. It's supposed to be a world where the victim does not even know he/she is dreaming, not to mention a world without chakra. In the fillers, you have ninjas using summoning jutsu, sasuke using chidori in the yamato fillers...etc Like wtf? Just before Yamato's dream starts, Madara said "Now let's make a world devoid of abysmal chakra". And yet they are still using chakra and fighting as well. The fillers have been interesting and all but as usual, they are full of plot holes. 2/5 at best.

 

[milkydean]

So menma is not a jounin even if he can control kurama?
Plus tenten knows about the dream

 

[Lia]

She knows neji died tho. Mugen tsukuyomi never said anything about erasing memories. It it worked out in the end since she eventually accepted the matrix.... I mean Mugen tsukuyomi.

But victims are supposed to not know that they are dreaming, that's what bothers me the most about the latest episodes. The next Thing is, Mugen Tsukuyomi is meant to be the perfect world, formed by the victim itself. So no fighting (for most of the characters, for example TenTen), no worries, nothing. Just pure happiness wherever we look.

I know that this would possibly boring for most of the Naruto-fans who just watch the Anime for fights and Action, but I wanted to know, what definitions of true peace and happiest life the characters have.

If it's meant to function the same way as a standard dream, she would not know things like Neji is dead or a war is happening.

This, thank you.
When I dream about my dead father, I do not know (within the dream) that he is dead, it's like he was never gone.

 

[Massifier]

Dreams shown:

Yamato(filler) ☑
Tenten(Manga, extended) ☑
Killer B (filler, next week(s)) ☑

Dreams to be shown according to the manga:

Hinata ☐
Kiba ☐
Shino ☐
Choji ☐
Shikamaru ☐
Ino ☐
Rock Lee ☐
Mizukage ☐
Tsunade ☐
Gaara ☐

And since they want to make Shippuden end on 700 like the manga, there will also be filler dreams of everyone else from the ninja alliance.

Enjoy.

I enjoyed 427 and 428, but if they're really going to make this dream world crap last that long, shippuden will make history for the most troll fillers in an anime (if it hasn't already).

 

[BenjerminGaye]

But victims are supposed to not know that they are dreaming, that's what bothers me the most about the latest episodes.

you care to show me where that was explicitly stated?

The next Thing is, Mugen Tsukuyomi is meant to be the perfect world, formed by the victim itself. So no fighting (for most of the characters, for example TenTen), no worries, nothing. Just pure happiness wherever we look.

no its based on the victims desires. If the victim desires war war will exist explicitly for that victim.

I know that this would possibly boring for most of the Naruto-fans who just watch the Anime for fights and Action, but I wanted to know, what definitions of true peace and happiest life the characters have.

but you misconstrued what it does, it's not "peace" per say. It's indulgence.

If it's meant to function the same way as a standard dream, she would not know things like Neji is dead or a war is happening.

You don't have self awareness in your dreams? I pity you.

 

[bricksgang]

A little annoyed with the fact that the "dreams" arent exactly what was in the manga. I enjoyed seeing TenTen and Yamato find their place (even if in Mugen Tsukuyomi). I just wasn't aware that they could know they were dreaming. I hope Killer Bee's part is only 2 episodes as well. Oh well, what can ya do with a drunken sailor?

 

[Angelic.]

ok episodes. i liked that she got to use the tools in the dreamworld (sp didnt show it)and finally accept it. i prefer these depictions of acceptance more than kishis short ones

 

[ShortShadow]

3\5.

It was amusing to see Shikamaru eating like crazy, and Sakura blowing sasuke off. But seeing Hinata so violent was not a pleasant site. And Neji being a perv is annoying.

Menma was cool, but the scene with kurama was disappointing. All he did was bite...

It was too much for 2 episodes. I'd rap it up in 1... not interesting enough.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

They messed up the concept of the infinite tsukuyomi. It's supposed to be a world where the victim does not even know he/she is dreaming,

That was never stated. Pure fanon.

not to mention a world without chakra. In the fillers, you have ninjas using summoning jutsu, sasuke using chidori in the yamato fillers...etc Like wtf? Just before Yamato's dream starts, Madara said "Now let's make a world devoid of abysmal chakra". And yet they are still using chakra and fighting as well. The fillers have been interesting and all but as usual, they are full of plot holes. 2/5 at best.

Its a dream...