Sasuke was holding back because he needed to capture him alive,still hadn't recovered from his battle against Itachi, lost the CM which he had mastered and incoporated into his fighting style for years,and was literally using the MS for the first time.Despite all this,Bee said Sasuke was the only one other the Raikage to dodge his Hachibi enhanced speed,and was one of the strongest he ever fought.
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This is from when he was saved from Sasuke's Genjutsu.
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This panel is from Kisame Vs Bee but it's very true.The Hachibi spoke the truth.
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Naruto only matched in Taijutsu because they both had no chakra left,and were exhausted.
Sasuke was never overwhelmed by Itachi in close range combat,and the list deosn't go on.
Lee congratulated him for biting off lee's style then scolds his poor stamina, for trying to copy it. Not to mention you overlooking lee hitting him with the front lotus when they actually do fight despite lee not talking off the weights.
Bee gave sasuke 7 swords to the chest, was able to fight off him Suigetsu and jugo at the same damn time time with taijutsu alone, despite the other 3 resorting to nijutsu, curse mark, and hydrophication.
Raikage lier bombed him and he had to resort to ninjutsu(ama/susanno) to protect himself.
Naruto flat decked hem despite him having 3t sharingan up and just draining naruto's chakra.
Itachi overwhelmed him multiple times in and out of genjutsu.
Naruto physically has had the better speed and strength over Sasuke when it came to taijutsu. Combine with Frog Kata, and his senseory ability, he can predict movements(3rd raikage fight and Limbo) almost as well as the sharingan. His taijutsu is more powerful. His Rasengan is HIHGLY destructive and can be used in both long and short range attacks and can be infused with different elements. Shadow clones can cover nearly any area he wants. They also give him experience against opponents and allow him to train very quickly. Clones also make Sasuke's genjutsu somewhat tricky cuz he doesn't know which is the real Naruto. Sasuke has been caught off guard by a clone before. Plus Kurama can break him out of most genjutsu's. If not for those things, yeah naruto biggest weak point is genjutsu. Don't know about Hokage Naruto tho.
Sasuke's not as physically strong, but what he has is better technique. Most of his blows, unlike Naruto are what I like to call "kill shots". He's not trying to overpower his opponents, he's going for the certain death. Swords and chidori are great examples of this. Combine with the Sharingan, he can see most opponents that aren't as fast as he is, and attack with the precision to take out his opponent permanently. Sasuke has natural genjutsu, but he doesn't use it very often. I have yet to see his tsukuyomi skill on par with Itachi, so most of his opponents probably won't have to worry about that. I would say Sasuke's biggest weakness is his over confidence. He's almost gotten killed a few times because he was too sure of himself.
It's his sharingan that helps his taijutsu look so good. He can see his opponents movements. Without his sharingan, Sasuke's gotton beaten a few times.
Valley of the end when Naruto speed and strength was increased and Sasuke couldn't keep up until his Sharingan activated and formed 3 tomoe.
VOTE2 when he went for the killing blow, but when his sharingan went out, Naruto was able counter.
Sasuke has excellent skills, but without the sharingan, he's not Lee, Gai, Ay good
It's his sharingan that helps his taijutsu look so good. He can see his opponents movements. Without his sharingan, Sasuke's gotton beaten a few times.
Valley of the end when Naruto speed and strength was increased and Sasuke couldn't keep up until his Sharingan activated and formed 3 tomoe.
VOTE2 when he went for the killing blow, but when his sharingan went out, Naruto was able counter.
Sasuke has excellent skills, but without the sharingan, he's not Lee, Gai, Ay good
You misinterpret taijutsu it seems. Whether he's using sharingan or not doesn't affect his taijutsu, only his ability to see extremely fast opponents. Part 1 lee never would have stood a chance against vote naruto because he could never see him; being fast doesn't make your eyes better. Having sharingan just allowed him to see naruto so he could actually fight. Sasuke actually has more taijutsu skill than lee, he just never trained for the gates or anything.
You misinterpret taijutsu it seems. Whether he's using sharingan or not doesn't affect his taijutsu, only his ability to see extremely fast opponents. Part 1 lee never would have stood a chance against vote naruto because he could never see him; being fast doesn't make your eyes better. Having sharingan just allowed him to see naruto so he could actually fight. Sasuke actually has more taijutsu skill than lee, he just never trained for the gates or anything.
Sharingan does affect his taijutsu tho. Taijutsu is physical movement. Sharingan see's the opponents physical movements. That's why VOTE naruto's speed was made null during his fight. Sasuke saw what was coming, and allowed him to time his counter to neutralize the oncoming attack.
Sharingan may not give him a physical power boost, but it does give him precog. Only people with much greater speed can get around that. Im not sure his or naruto skill is overall better than Lee who trained exclusively in taijutsu, but that's my opinon
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Naruto's worst is genjutsu not debatable.
For Sasuke I'd say Taijutsu since close range he primarily fights with a sword, ninjutsu, or susanoo.
Naruto's has more proficiency with Ninjutsu/Taijutsu then his genjutsu, while Sasuke has more proficiency with Ninjutsu/Genjutsu with Taijutsu being decent bc sharingan
=BenjerminGaye;19053780]Lee congratulated him for biting off lee's style then scolds his poor stamina, for trying to copy it. Not to mention you overlooking lee hitting him with the front lotus when they actually do fight despite lee not talking off the weights.
dont try and dodge the point he was trying to make, lee praised him as sasuke got the same speed as him without wieghts.
Bee gave sasuke 7 swords to the chest, was able to fight off him Suigetsu and jugo at the same damn time time with taijutsu alone, despite the other 3 resorting to nijutsu, curse mark, and hydrophication.
mention the whole encounter and not just pick parts that favour you or you come as biased.
initially sasuke matched and completely bested him when both had a single blade, heck sasuke did that without his sharingan. bee upgraded to seven swords agianst sasukes 1 yet the latter was still dodging him while moving back, still managed to guard himself. it was when bee deflected sasukes chidori katana shocking the latter that he got the opening and struck sasuke. but even in that small window before bees attack connected, sasuke managed to defuse the ration so his hit wasnt fatal. and suigetsu nor jugo intervened there so dont mention them
not to mention the fact that was a weakened sasuke with sustained injuries from the itachi battle, so physically he was no where near top shape yet still pulled off some feats.
Raikage lier bombed him and he had to resort to ninjutsu(ama/susanno) to protect himself.
after he had his attack dodged with ease got pierced with chidori, his armour nullified the damage and made sure sasukes attack wasnt fatal when it got to his skin. both landed attacks on each other
Naruto flat decked hem despite him having 3t sharingan up and just draining naruto's chakra.
madara never beat him in cqc what are you talking about, sasukes movements pushed him back to the point were he resorted to letting his arm get pierced.
how did I dodge the point? I said lee congratulated him, then criticized him. He gets a B+ for copying it but a C- cuz he can't maintain it. I'm only stating the obvious.
mention the whole encounter and not just pick parts that favour you or you come as biased.
That wasn't even killer b's sword..... if anything you should praise b for matching him with a sword he picked up literally 30 seconds ago. Or is that just a reflection of sasuke's poor skills?
heck sasuke did that without his sharingan. bee upgraded to seven swords
swords which belong to him and he actually trains with (not somthing he randomly picked off of his opponents) so its not an upgrade but him in base doing what he's trained to do.
Sasuke cut up in nicks cuts and scratches after 1 encounter, despite 3t(therefore precognition(look up the word if you don't know what it means)) being active.
it was when bee deflected sasukes chidori katana shocking the latter that he got the opening and struck sasuke.
I'll take sasuke's words and actions over that of killer bee's thoughts.He knows more about his body than someone that just met him. If it wasn't fatal he wouldn't need medical attention from karin and wouldn't say "you saved me" after the fact.
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Either way hats off to sasuke for mitigating the damage he took, it dosen't change the fact that killer be took none despite his multiple attempts.
and suigetsu nor jugo intervened there so dont mention them
not to mention the fact that was a weakened sasuke with sustained injuries from the itachi battle, so physically he was no where near top shape yet still pulled off some feats.
Irrelevant, since it's TEAM taka against sasuke and juugo(as shown in this very fight), along with karin, white zetsu, etc all had the means to heal him. The only thing he lacked was cursemark.
after he had his attack dodged with ease got pierced with chidori, his armour nullified the damage and made sure sasukes attack wasnt fatal when it got to his skin. both landed attacks on each other
Sasuke got liger bombed, and from that point on had to resort to ninjutsu(susanno, ama) just to keep ay away which ultimately failed and resulted in garra stepping in.
wrong, he didnt have his sharingan on when naruto gave him that uppercut, reread.
madara never beat him in cqc what are you talking about, sasukes movements pushed him back to the point were he resorted to letting his arm get pierced.
blind madara dodged all of his attacks. Then took a hit to talk to him. Scolded him for being on borrowed time, then left him, then he stabs him later on.
Lee congratulated him for biting off lee's style then scolds his poor stamina, for trying to copy it. Not to mention you overlooking lee hitting him with the front lotus when they actually do fight despite lee not talking off the weights.
Bee gave sasuke 7 swords to the chest, was able to fight off him Suigetsu and jugo at the same damn time time with taijutsu alone, despite the other 3 resorting to nijutsu, curse mark, and hydrophication.
Raikage lier bombed him and he had to resort to ninjutsu(ama/susanno) to protect himself.
Naruto flat decked hem despite him having 3t sharingan up and just draining naruto's chakra.
Itachi overwhelmed him multiple times in and out of genjutsu.
And then the next chapter comes with sasuke resorting to ninjutsu, just to get decked by taijutsu
LOL, Sasuke didn't have poor stamina. Lee just noted how just like with himself, High Speed Taijutsu wears Sasuke out. You can't have poor stamina with High Speed Taijutsu which is why when Sasuke copied it against Yoroi in the prelimaries, it took a big toll on him cause he hadn't acquired a body that can handle High Speed Taijutsu.
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Sasuke attained Lee's Highspeed Taijutsu in a few weeks whereas it took Lee years to get to that level.
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Yeah, Bee did do that against a holding back Suigetsu,Jugo,and Sasuke. In the beginning Sasuke didn't even have the Sharingan activated, much less the Mangekyo.
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Do not ignore the fact at how the Akatsuki always had to capture their target alive so they held back. This is true for them all from Hidan,and Kakazu with the 2 Tails Jin, Itachi,and Kisame against the 4 Tails jin, Taka with Bee, Pain with Naruto, etc.
You counter for the Raikage was very poor. You know very well the Raikage made eye contact with Sasuke, yet Masashi has Sasuke not use Genjutsu on him.
Read this and the next 2 pages.
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Sasuke's Sharingan de-activated due to having no chakra, that is how Naruto hit him, the Kyuubi pointed it out aswell. There's no way you can claim Sasuke had the Sharingan activated and Naruto still hit him. He was only able to because it clearly de-activated.
Sasuke Vs Itachi in Shuriken jutsu was a tie. Sasuke Vs Itachi in Fire Jutsu was Sasuke's win, although Itachi probably made it seem as if Sasuke was winning, then he unleashed Amaterasu and overwhelmed Sasuke.
BenjerminGaye;19055527]how did I dodge the point? I said lee congratulated him, then criticized him. He gets a B+ for copying it but a C- cuz he can't maintain it. I'm only stating the obvious.
Except lee never criticized him so i dont know were you pulled that him. he simply said sasuke would have difficulty in maintaining the speed, thats not criticism last time i checked so lets not try and twist things.
There's nothing bias about it. Sasuke never beat bee in cqc, and his only hits on bee was either:
this is a lame excuse, a skilled swordsman is a skilled swordsman, give them any weapon thats not theirs even a kunai and they would still put it to good use. itachi picked up sasukes sword which was foreign to him and secs later he is dicing off kabutos horn, so stop grasping at straws here.
Or is that just a reflection of sasuke's poor skills?
swords which belong to him and he actually trains with (not somthing he randomly picked off of his opponents) so its not an upgrade but him in base doing what he's trained to do.
Sasuke cut up in nicks cuts and scratches after 1 encounter, despite 3t(therefore precognition(look up the word if you don't know what it means)) being active.
yes he did initially which was what i was referring to
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evading it and shifting back, while managing to put his sword up to guard.
i never said he evaded it entirely, bees movements unorthodox movements gradually took control. nontheless this was still a guy with injuries and not fresh so what he pulled off is impressive going by that.
already disproven and that's sasuke resorting to ninjutsu since he can't get the leg up via kenjutsu.
he is streaming chidori via katana, still kenjutsu and you didnt disprove anything.
I'll take sasuke's words and actions over that of killer bee's thoughts.He knows more about his body than someone that just met him. If it wasn't fatal he wouldn't need medical attention from karin and wouldn't say "you saved me" after the fact.
and not being 100% as well access to orochimarus jutsus giving him his defense with snake guards and some form of healing.
Sasuke got liger bombed, and from that point on had to resort to ninjutsu(susanno, ama) just to keep ay away which ultimately failed and resulted in garra stepping in.
and ay got chidori to his abdomen. his raiton armour is the reason why it wasnt a more severe hit because the chidori had to get through it first before getting to his skin. this was before he got tagged by
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with his armour protecting him same way soosano protected sasuke from his hit.mention the whole scenario and not just some parts.
So sasuke needs precognition to best base naruto's taijutsu? Lol
when he is fighting 4 narutos while weakened(same for naruto) then yes i guess. facing multiple opponents with same skill set is obv different than facing 1. if its just 1, he doesnt need it. theres nothing funny about it
urrm not sure what this is supposed to prove, as i see sasuke trying to tag him with chidori and itachi jumping away. how did he get beat here exactly?
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he mayb blind but he had sage mode so he could sense sasukes movements perfectly and evade. we are talking of the same guy who near blized sm naruto and left him in the dust, this was before absorbing hashis sm mode btw. sasuke quick movements and striking pushed him back to the point were madara resorted to getting stabbed.
took a hit because that was literally the only thing he could do as he was getting pressured. its a testament to sasukes swift striking and quickly at that.
