Naruto & Sasuke vs Teams 7, 8, 10, team Guy, Team Taka, and sand siblings.

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I didn't mention anything about clones,

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Naruto stays in sage mode. Makes fourty sm clones
i was clearly responding to this. since you claim that kurenai cant use genjutsu like that, then naruto cant make up powers he hasnt shown either.

As if Ino can use her slow jutsu that's specifically remarked as slow multiple times in the manga
and then commented on as having vastly improved in speed and precision

its amazing how little people ignore this stuff to fit their own views

Orange Flash fires 1 bijuu dama or blitzes her and the rest of the opponents
orange flashs bijuudama is intercepted by a pyramid large enough objects in a bijuudamas way can stop it. we know this because lake form suigetsu survived one point blank and orochimaru survived one by summoning his triple gate defence.

Yeah? He has a water body and he was blown apart as he was hit. Don't act like Suigetsu just walked off after taking a bijuu dama, not only that but he had a lake at his disposal.
i didnt. the point is he can take the hit for the stronger fighters on team 2 and waste narutos chakra. since naruto should be targeting the strongest wariors first. unfortunately ino hax and shino hax mean that even they, who shouldnt stand a chance, can defeat a higher level fighter with careful precision and strategy.

Nobody here is tanking a mountain buster
gaaras sand withstood a village buster
madara's meteors, jouki boi explosions while protecting allies, enton, and raikages gulloitine drop.

Nobody here has tanked something that was explicitly said to destroy a mountain, so again stop talking BS.
lol. and while naruto is busy thinking hes killed everyone, kurenai releases the genjutsu and ino takes over his mind. calling all these fighters fodder is what will make naruto fall to them as hed underestimate them.

Yeah. Not going to do you much good when all you see is a golden flash before you're dead
ok. evidence where a bijuudama is a golden flash

Kakashi is far too slow to even be able to begin to think about reacting to KM Naruto.
he already has reacted to BM naruto. he was staring at him long and hard enough to mistake him for minatos hokage cloak.

When has Gai's speed ever compared to Naruto's
gai was always the faster of the two until KCM. now i dont know til i see 8th gate.

Again, you're truly talking out of your ass here if you think the likes of Shino or better yet Ino or anyone rather will be able to do anything but think "What's that yellow fl--" in this fight
your seriously overrating narutos speed now. you think he can kill off kurenai, asuma, kakashi, gai, lee, gaara, kankuro (a puppet master who hides himself on principle mind you), shino (long range fighter who hides himself mind you), suigetsu (made of water and naruto will always try basic taijutsu first), neji, temari all in the blink of an eye? hes not his father. hes not on that level. minato barely avoided young A'S punch IIRC. as i said their strategy for naruto wont be to try and defeat him head on in a physical brawl but to buy enough time for ino to work her magic and take control of him so he can defeat sasuke then, i dont know, kill himself. team 2s strategy has to be built around inos technique, shinos bug spheres, 8 gates, and gaaras sealing jutsu. or they will lose. if poison for sasuke is a no go then gai can take with him sakuras sleep gas bombs and at least disorient and distract naruto. gaara can make a sandstorm fly in his face and get into his eyes. sai and gaara rain down a firestorm from above, using sais birds and gaaras sand to get the long range fighters out from the ground so they can bombard sasuke and naruto. gaara uses sand to defeat narutos chakra arms and FRS.

And that speed? Yeah, saying that any of the following ninja fighting him can do little of anything before being completely obliterated is utterly ridiculous.
well kishi isnt known for keeping narutos speed consistent. he kept with 4th raikage only to struggle and get hit by bubbles from the 6 tailed jin. bubbles!

Whta does the speed of the bijuu dama relevant for? You think they're escaping the range of 5 mountains before it explodes?
via kamui, yep.

nobody is going to do anything to Naruto.
even the greatest fighters arent invincible. team 2 has poison, puppets, kamui, 8th gate, sand pyramids and defences, destruction bugs, sleep gas bombs, hydrification, and medical ninjas.

Hell, the 2 best ninja on their team were shitting their pants at this Naruto lol.
gaara and 8th gate gai?

Nobody here will be able to even process a thoguht before being erased from the match.
wrong
Killer Bee also could only see a flash back then.
so was he only seeing zips and flashes when naruto fought A? hell no he intercepted A and fought against him, and obviously he gets way faster in hachibi mode.

You expect Shino's bugs to cover him?
yes. they can go underground or on the ground unnnoticed. even tobi uchiha nearly got caught.

Ino to catch him?
kurenai + ino = controlled naruto. assuming kurama is still lazy enough to let naruto suffer in genjutsu for a few seconds.

how he dodged A self-proclaimed "fastest shinobi alive" punch in an inferior form?
yeah he dodged. because he ran away. often in anime people get mocked because thats all they can do. remember naruto vs kiba? kiba was superior to naruto and lost to pure luck because he was too fast and too strong for naruto to do anythign except dodge. and cos bee was there too. i doubt A was actually seriously trying to kill him with the best speed he could muster either.

Literally anything speed wise or the ability to do anything useful at all against KM Naruto. Because things are not looking good for team 2.
put this in the desert and ill show you some gaara feats that could protect the weaker ninjas while they do the kurenai + ino combo i suggested. while shino and gai/kakashi handle sasuke and wait for ino to work her magic. as i said naruto cant do much when hes having a sandstorm shoved in his face and eyes.
 

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i was clearly responding to this. since you claim that kurenai cant use genjutsu like that, then naruto cant make up powers he hasnt shown either.
Ok, but you were responding to what someone else said and since I didn't say anything about clones I could care less about Naruto not being able to use clones lol

and then commented on as having vastly improved in speed and precision

its amazing how little people ignore this stuff to fit their own views
Yeah, a snail's speed increases tenfold, still nowhere near enough to catch up with the fastest character in the manga so feats of it keeping up with or gtfo.
orange flashs bijuudama is intercepted by a pyramid large enough objects in a bijuudamas way can stop it. we know this because lake form suigetsu survived one point blank and orochimaru survived one by summoning his triple gate defence.
Lol a pyramid? You ****ing serious? Unfortunately, Gaara's defence has never taken something that makes mountains look like anthills and Orochimaru unfortunately took on a bijuu dama from 50% Kurama in 4 tailed form. Guess what? This one's in full complete 9 tailed form. So nope. And Orochimaru still didn't stop it. It still blasted through his defence in the end and decimated a forest. Suigetsu again, was blown away and he had an entire lake. You ignored that scan though, of course

And lol wat? Bullshit, even if Gaara could miraculously react to , which he can't. So he's not putting up defences.
i didnt. the point is he can take the hit for the stronger fighters on team 2 and waste narutos chakra. since naruto should be targeting the strongest wariors first. unfortunately ino hax and shino hax mean that even they, who shouldnt stand a chance, can defeat a higher level fighter with careful precision and strategy.
No he can't. Firstly because he's way too slow to think about reacting to Naruto or his bijuu dama, second because last time he had an entire lake at his disposal. Hey if you read from and don't ignore it this time, you might realize that Taka isn't restricted to being nailed to the gruond and the bijuu dama went straight through the water. Hey guess what, if it still was as powerful as afterward? I'm thinking Suigetsu didn't do much. Nobody here can do shit, stop acting like it, you're severely downplaying Naruto.

gaaras sand withstood a village buster
madara's meteors, jouki boi explosions while protecting allies, enton, and raikages gulloitine drop.
Hey guess what? and . Also, I'd like to note, KN6, which is, 6 tails version, and 50% chakra, as opposed to, the 100% chakra complete 9 tailed Kurama, did and despite a boulder being smashed in his face and the bijuu dama being uncharged. So seriously, enough with the shit about these guys reacting/doing anything to Naruto before they're erased from existence. You're REALLY downplaying Naruto.

lol. and while naruto is busy thinking hes killed everyone, kurenai releases the genjutsu and ino takes over his mind. calling all these fighters fodder is what will make naruto fall to them as hed underestimate them.
Too bad they're FAR too slow as said previous.

ok. evidence where a bijuudama is a golden flash
See above where they're too slow to do anything or touch Naruto

he already has reacted to BM naruto. he was staring at him long and hard enough to mistake him for minatos hokage cloak.
Again. You ignored this from last time for obvious reasons. But, Naruto How is that relevant to his speed? Here he doesn't have to stop moving, they can't do shit to bijuu damas that dwarf mountains, none of them can do aynthing to a mountain buster, don't act like they can even react let alone block it.
gai was always the faster of the two until KCM. now i dont know til i see 8th gate.
Yeah, hey guess what? Until KCM. You got that right. And Bijuu Mode? Yeah....unfortunately for Gai he's much much much faster as seen above(and I'll it since you're going to ignore it like usual). We've never seen 8 gates, you complained at the other guy for using speculation? Besides, lol at him getting the time to enter the 8th gate before being vaporized.

your seriously overrating narutos speed now.
The hell? I've actually backed up his ridiculous speed. Kishi heavily emphasized that he's the fastest, and you know the way Kakashi and Gai shit their pants, and they're the strongest 2 members of the other team? Yeah. I know that too. You haven't given shit in the other team's speed in how they will do shit before getting blown to smithereens, don't criticize me for overrating when Naruto's just that hax and you haven't given a single shred of evidence as to how they'll even blink before dying. Im' not overrating, you're severely underrating. By far. If you think Kurenai can catch him in a genjutsu, Gaara can put up a defense that stops dwarfing mountain busters or speed in or Kakashi can land a Kamui? You're bullshitting, either you're seriously overrating all of these shinobi or severely underrating Naruto, take your pick.
you think he can kill off kurenai, asuma, kakashi, gai, lee, gaara, kankuro (a puppet master who hides himself on principle mind you), shino (long range fighter who hides himself mind you), suigetsu (made of water and naruto will always try basic taijutsu first), neji, temari all in the blink of an eye?
Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying. First let's address a few things. You act as if Kankuro who "hides himself", Shino who "hides himself", Suigetsu "who Naruto will miraculously use taijutsu first despite how you acted like in multiple other threads that the default is bloodlusted therefore there's no excuse for a bijuu dama". No one here is fast enough to do shit. Stop acting like it. So for suigetsu, if he uses basic taijutsu? They can't react to speed, they all die before they can even blink. He makes earthquakes by simply moving. So everyone dies, Suigetsu miraculously survives. The **** is he going to do? Suigetsu vs KM Naruto? Lolol
hes not his father. hes not on that level. minato barely avoided young A'S punch IIRC.
That's cool, Naruto (note the yellow flash and all that jazz, and note the inferior form as usual everyone is too slow to do shit). And guess what, judging by it being "young A", Naruto dodged a stronger and faster A by your logic but since their speed is on a level far beyond any of these fodder shinobi it's not like the small difference is significant lol. Oh and before the BS .

So anyway yeah, he is on his father's level. Did the "S..sensei?" thing mean anything to you? Did his RM speed/yellow flash mean anything to you? Did his speed casually shitting on anything he's ever done in RM in Bijuu Mode mean anything to you? If anything he surpassed Minato's speed, and guess what. Minato had to use his instant teleportation, fortunately for him Naruto just used his regular old speed.

Lol @ this team doing shit to Naruto before they die. Seriously.
as i said their strategy for naruto wont be to try and defeat him head on in a physical brawl but to buy enough time for ino to work her magic and take control of him
Lol @ having time implementing a strategy against a yellow flash that they can't even process a thought before he kills them
so he can defeat sasuke then, i dont know, kill himself. team 2s strategy has to be built around inos technique, shinos bug spheres, 8 gates, and gaaras sealing jutsu. or they will lose.
So since they're too slow to do anything to Naruto or can't tank bijuu dama that make mountains look like ant hills, they lose. I know that already. I don't know why you're disagreeing since you agree here.
if poison for sasuke is a no go then gai can take with him sakuras sleep gas bombs and at least disorient and distract naruto. gaara can make a sandstorm fly in his face and get into his eyes. sai and gaara rain down a firestorm from above, using sais birds and gaaras sand to get the long range fighters out from the ground so they can bombard sasuke and naruto. gaara uses sand to defeat narutos chakra arms and FRS.
Lol seriously, wtf is up with this, trying to act like all of these slow characters who don't have 1 speed feat to their name can react to Bijuu Mode Orange Flash Fastest Character In The Manga Naruto Who Blitzes Them All Before They Blink.
well kishi isnt known for keeping narutos speed consistent. he kept with 4th raikage only to struggle and get hit by bubbles from the 6 tailed jin. bubbles!
Yep, and that was when he was fighting 5 bijuu at once. Hey! All of those 5 bijuu are out of these fodder's league as well, and RM Naruto is far inferior to Bijuu Mode which I've shown above, his speed's very consistent. Now as I said multiple times, I've given plenty of scans to back everything I've said up. Give me scans of their speed or ability to do a thing against Naruto, or everything you said is bullshit. Nobody has ayn time to do anything in the face of Naruto, don't act like they do without any proof whatsoever.
via kamui, yep.


even the greatest fighters arent invincible. team 2 has poison, puppets, kamui, 8th gate, sand pyramids and defences, destruction bugs, sleep gas bombs, hydrification, and medical ninjas.
Right, you think they have time to activate that shit before being killed.

gaara and 8th gate gai?
Yeah, last I checked Gaara was slower than Kakashi and Gai, and yep your'e right about the Gai one. So...any speed feats from Gaara that show he can even blink before Naruto decimates?

wrong
so was he only seeing zips and flashes when naruto fought A? hell no he intercepted A and fought against him, and obviously he gets way faster in hachibi mode.
Well, I think you need to go re-read that fight and guess what you ignore dthe scan I posted vs Kisame buddy. Actually I posted Naruto dodging A's full speed punch above so just go read up there yep.

yes. they can go underground or on the ground unnnoticed. even tobi uchiha nearly got caught.

kurenai + ino = controlled naruto. assuming kurama is still lazy enough to let naruto suffer in genjutsu for a few seconds.
Again. All much too slow to do shit. Seriously, you've given 0 scans of any of these attacks being able to do anything in the face of the fastest character in the manga. I know they can't, you know they can't. Probably why you're not posting any proof. Because the proof of them being able to keep up with the fastest character don't exist.

yeah he dodged. because he ran away. often in anime people get mocked because thats all they can do. remember naruto vs kiba? kiba was superior to naruto and lost to pure luck because he was too fast and too strong for naruto to do anythign except dodge. and cos bee was there too. i doubt A was actually seriously trying to kill him with the best speed he could muster either.
Oh wait, yeah he was.
put this in the desert and ill show you some gaara feats that could protect the weaker ninjas while they do the kurenai + ino combo i suggested. while shino and gai/kakashi handle sasuke and wait for ino to work her magic. as i said naruto cant do much when hes having a sandstorm shoved in his face and eyes.
Oh so you admit that since it's not in the desert they can't do shit vs bijuu dama and speed they can't process a thought to before they get vaporized? Thanks for conceding and all, but meanwhile I'm quite curious to what desert feats Gaara has that can even react let alone stop bijuu dama that make mountains look tiny in comparison. Go ahead I'm waiting.

Seriously though, you seriously have to stop severely underrating Naruto's speed or highly overrating the other fodders' power. You've not given a single feat in their name to back them up, they can't react to Naruto in the slightest or let alone defend against his attacks even if speed was somehow equalized because the fight is too unfair. Don't know what else I was going to say to sum this shit up, but come on.
 
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Asuma's team + kakashi and gaara would rape
 

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i was clearly responding to this. since you claim that kurenai cant use genjutsu like that, then naruto cant make up powers he hasnt shown either.

and then commented on as having vastly improved in speed and precision

its amazing how little people ignore this stuff to fit their own views

orange flashs bijuudama is intercepted by a pyramid large enough objects in a bijuudamas way can stop it. we know this because lake form suigetsu survived one point blank and orochimaru survived one by summoning his triple gate defence.

i didnt. the point is he can take the hit for the stronger fighters on team 2 and waste narutos chakra. since naruto should be targeting the strongest wariors first. unfortunately ino hax and shino hax mean that even they, who shouldnt stand a chance, can defeat a higher level fighter with careful precision and strategy.

gaaras sand withstood a village buster
madara's meteors, jouki boi explosions while protecting allies, enton, and raikages gulloitine drop.

lol. and while naruto is busy thinking hes killed everyone, kurenai releases the genjutsu and ino takes over his mind. calling all these fighters fodder is what will make naruto fall to them as hed underestimate them.

ok. evidence where a bijuudama is a golden flash

he already has reacted to BM naruto. he was staring at him long and hard enough to mistake him for minatos hokage cloak.

gai was always the faster of the two until KCM. now i dont know til i see 8th gate.

Again, you're truly talking out of your ass here if you think the likes of Shino or better yet Ino or anyone rather will be able to do anything but think "What's that yellow fl--" in this fight
your seriously overrating narutos speed now. you think he can kill off kurenai, asuma, kakashi, gai, lee, gaara, kankuro (a puppet master who hides himself on principle mind you), shino (long range fighter who hides himself mind you), suigetsu (made of water and naruto will always try basic taijutsu first), neji, temari all in the blink of an eye? hes not his father. hes not on that level. minato barely avoided young A'S punch IIRC. as i said their strategy for naruto wont be to try and defeat him head on in a physical brawl but to buy enough time for ino to work her magic and take control of him so he can defeat sasuke then, i dont know, kill himself. team 2s strategy has to be built around inos technique, shinos bug spheres, 8 gates, and gaaras sealing jutsu. or they will lose. if poison for sasuke is a no go then gai can take with him sakuras sleep gas bombs and at least disorient and distract naruto. gaara can make a sandstorm fly in his face and get into his eyes. sai and gaara rain down a firestorm from above, using sais birds and gaaras sand to get the long range fighters out from the ground so they can bombard sasuke and naruto. gaara uses sand to defeat narutos chakra arms and FRS.

well kishi isnt known for keeping narutos speed consistent. he kept with 4th raikage only to struggle and get hit by bubbles from the 6 tailed jin. bubbles!

via kamui, yep.

even the greatest fighters arent invincible. team 2 has poison, puppets, kamui, 8th gate, sand pyramids and defences, destruction bugs, sleep gas bombs, hydrification, and medical ninjas.

gaara and 8th gate gai?

wrong
so was he only seeing zips and flashes when naruto fought A? hell no he intercepted A and fought against him, and obviously he gets way faster in hachibi mode.

yes. they can go underground or on the ground unnnoticed. even tobi uchiha nearly got caught.

kurenai + ino = controlled naruto. assuming kurama is still lazy enough to let naruto suffer in genjutsu for a few seconds.

yeah he dodged. because he ran away. often in anime people get mocked because thats all they can do. remember naruto vs kiba? kiba was superior to naruto and lost to pure luck because he was too fast and too strong for naruto to do anythign except dodge. and cos bee was there too. i doubt A was actually seriously trying to kill him with the best speed he could muster either.

put this in the desert and ill show you some gaara feats that could protect the weaker ninjas while they do the kurenai + ino combo i suggested. while shino and gai/kakashi handle sasuke and wait for ino to work her magic. as i said naruto cant do much when hes having a sandstorm shoved in his face and eyes.

I never said anything about Kurenai's genjutsu. That was someone else. And yes, he can by the way. If He made several chakra mode clones, he should be able to make 20-40 sm clones.

Ino's jutsu isn't slow, but she can't use it on Naruto or Kyuubi will do what Sakura's inner did. And plus, she'd be one of the first they'd try to kill, due to her jutsu and being a medic. So she wouldn't have a chance to do it either.

Waste Naruto's chakra? Fer reals? He has close to infinate chakra.

I already mentioned why Ino can't take over Naruto.

Naruto in bm has far surpassed Minato. He was almost on par with Minato in chakra mode.

Kumai isn't fast enough to get Naruto. And I wish Kakashi could beat him, but no, he can't.

I didn't put this fight in a desert or on a lake. In a open field. Der.
 
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I never said anything about Kurenai's genjutsu. That was someone else. And yes, he can by the way. If He made several chakra mode clones, he should be able to make 20-40 sm clones.

Wait..you guys were arguing if Naruto could use SM Clones or not? Wtf?

I mean it's not like it's relevant or required since he just goes Bijuu Mode and nukes but..still. Can't use SM Clones? Wat?
 

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Wait..you guys were arguing if Naruto could use SM Clones or not? Wtf?

I mean it's not like it's relevant or required since he just goes Bijuu Mode and nukes but..still. Can't use SM Clones? Wat?

I know right? he was saying that Naruto can't use 40 sage mode clones, which they could win that way.

Naruto (biju mode) + 10 sm clones+ 250 regular clones+ Ems Sasuke+Toads+Hawks= Rape
 

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Wait..you guys were arguing if Naruto could use SM Clones or not? Wtf? He already made like 100 at once
ive already pointed out i dont consider any genjutsu feats (sasuke killing itachi over and over) or mind feats (naruto vs kyuubi) as tangible physical feats. i mean come on SM clone army being able to even affect THE kyuubi?

If He made several chakra mode clones, he should be able to make 20-40 sm clones.
SM itself doesnt work like that. you spread out the nature chakra too much and you cant maintain it. otherwise naruto would have made 100 nature energy gathering clones before fighting pain and tobi

Yeah, a snail's speed increases tenfold, still nowhere near enough to catch up with the fastest character in the manga so feats of it keeping up with this or gtfo.
when would she be trying to hit a moving naruto? as i said all naruto needs is to be disoriented for a second by either a genjutsu or sandstorm. with enough numbers, naruto cant maintain his speed. it will only drain his BM faster like when he lost it in 2 chapters after one bijudama. how can he kill guys like gaara sai and kurenia who will be protecting everyone else, and how will he kill guys like kankuro and shino who wont even be out in the open, and can mask their kill intent so naruto wont know where they are.

Gaara's defence has never taken something that makes mountains look like anthills
a village buster wouldnt do that? and your using a no limit fallacy. so naruto can automatically break through sand without a piercing attack like chidori just because his attack makes a big bang? as i said he contained C3 while being much weaker and slower than he is currently. at the age of 12 he made a sand tsunami which dwarfed boss summons without a sand source like a desert.
Orochimaru unfortunately took on a bijuu dama from 50% Kurama in 4 tailed form. Guess what? This one's in full complete 9 tailed form
no he isnt. its still 50% kurama. if oro can actually intercept an attack with tiny gates, then obviously a pyramid + sand clone + sand tsunami can contain a bijuudama at least even if it incinerates it. might i remind you his sand withstands madaras meteor and sasukes enton? meteor dwarfs the bijuu bomb.

You're REALLY downplaying Naruto.
lol all you said is that he can make a black ball thats really big. team 2 fights with strategy and precision while bugs constantly suck up chakra. like i said the cornerstone is disorientating/distracting naruto so ino can do her jutsu and turn naruto into an ally.
And lol wat? Bullshit, even if Gaara could miraculously react to this, which he can't. So he's not putting up defences.
he doesnt need to react. he couldnt react to 5 gated lee but lees attacks were meaningless before his defences. he always has sand armour and always has the ability to form the sphere in seconds. if naruto hesitates even for a second, gaaras sand arms grab his legs and pull him into a quicksand void.
Bijuu Mode Orange Flash Fastest Character In The Manga Naruto
see your still wrong. because minato is faster. if this were minato they were fighting then yes he could utterly blitz them all.

Firstly because he's way too slow to think about reacting to Naruto or his bijuu dama, second because last time he had an entire lake at his disposal.
i know that. im not an idiot. and i did read it. my point was bijuudams not as strong as you make it out to be.

No one here is fast enough to do shit. Stop acting like it.
and narutos not invincible nor can he keep up the same speed fighting endless armies of bug clones, and sand clones which cant be kiled, just reformed. he couldnt keep BM up for 2 chapters. he still has no way of preventing genjutsu. and being caught in it even for a few seconds is all the time team 2 needs. tayuyas genjutsu caught two sharingan masters.
Seriously, you've given 0 scans of any of these attacks being able to do anything in the face of the fastest character in the manga. I know they can't, you know they can't
yes they can you know they can. minato is the fastest character in the manga. we've barely seen anything from bm naruto and you suggest he split up his overwhelming power a bajillion times and decrease his overwhelming durability by thousands by making clones. meaning you think he needs them to defeat this army of jounins and kages. naruto hesitates or gets pinned down even for a moment and hes either in genjutsu or gets his head warped. you would think that running out of BM would at least revert him back to KCm but it doesnt. theres no way he can just fire bijuudamas and expect to be able to maintain it for 5 minutes.

And Orochimaru still didn't stop it. It
hes alive right? so he stopped it

Naruto Who Blitzes Them All Before They Blink.
show me where he can blitz an army before they blink. you demand scans but provide endless no limit fallacies and act like narutos an invincible god when he cant resist being taken over by ino. only reason sakura did is her willpower, ino low on chakra, and the "other personality" in sakuras mind. kuramas not in narutos mind so he cant drive ino out. hes not the mass of malevolence either so his chakra isnt corrosive. this means shinos bugs will reach him and they will work.

Too bad they're FAR too slow as said previous.
being fast doesnt make you immune to being disoriented by a sand clone bursting into sand and getting into his eyes. no one said that team 2 is all bunched up. maybe they will force naruto to find them first, then defeat them one at a time. that will make bm run out as he doesnt have time to constantly look for them with his SM clone. gaara can keep placing sand clones and pyramids in his way. naruto will end up having to beat the clone first thinking its the original shino (gaara can do henge ). naruto is not minato. he cant find someone then immediately BAM'f to their location. especially since it will end up being a bug or sand clone. time isnt on narutos side. meanwhile gaara and gai lie in reserve ready to defeat naruto once hes lost his BM invincibility. SM can still lose especially if he starts splitting up his power.

Lol @ having time implementing a strategy against a yellow flash that they can't even process a thought before he kills them
like sasuke and naruto vs zabuza? he was suuposed to be a million times faster and stronger at the time. naruto can sense kill intent and evil emotions in BM, not chakra itself. so they can eaisly hide while using sand as a smokescreen. then spread out in every direction so naruto cant oneshot them all with FRS/BD. the more time naruto gives gaara the more this battlefield will become a desert. yuo know that right? and he only has 5 minutes to kill every single one when hes unabel to spam FRS or bijuudama on all of them. and if he tries to, he will run out of bm in mere 1 minute or 2.

Waste Naruto's chakra? Fer reals? He has close to infinate chakra.
bm never was said to be more than 5 minutes.

, they can't do shit to bijuu damas that dwarf mountains, none of them can do aynthing to a mountain buster, don't act like they can even react let alone block it
i can and do act like it. speeds meaningless and so is power in the face of an ocean of gaaras sand that withstood meteors and C3. At best naruto can do one of those giant mountain busters and it will only make his BM run out faster. he has not mastered the attack.
That's cool, Naruto also dodged his full speed punch
old A, not prime A.


See above where they're too slow to do anything or touch Naruto
you never said bijuudama is too fast for them to do anything. its as fast as most other attacks. FRS is the fastest long range attack in narutos arsenal

Oh so you admit that since it's not in the desert they can't do shit vs bijuu dama and speed they can't process a thought to before they get vaporized?
no one in naruto is that fast. even people process thoughts watching minato fight. they just cant blink. tell me where someone has been killed before they can process a thought or realise it.

You've not given a single feat in their name to back them up
because your not reading anythign im saying, your jsut spamming naruto is the fastest (which he isnt) and invincible (which he isnt).

He wasn't? Oh wait, yeah he was.
no he wasnt. he can say he was but his heart wasnt truly in it. he had no reason to be truly angry with naruto enough to fight his absolute hardest

Because the proof of them being able to keep up with the fastest character don't exist.
your right which is why they cant defeat MINATO

Yeah, last I checked Gaara was slower than Kakashi and Gai
you demand scans and proof from me but spout shit like this? how is gaara slower than them if hes fighting the strongest past kages and keeping up with KCM and muus movements enough to aid them in battle? all bee saw was a flash, correct?
Right, you think they have time to activate that shit before being killed. Speed feats or gtfo
right you think naruto can activate and keep up BM for as long as he wants and spam bijuudamas all over the place with no repercussions.

Yep, and that was when he was fighting 5 bijuu at once. Hey! All of those 5 bijuu are out of these fodder's league as well,
i was talking about the initial edo jin battle. naruto was hurt by bubbles. the real one mind you. and your an idiot if you think edo jins can overpower this army without edo regeneration or biijuu modes.

Kishi heavily emphasized that he's the fastest,
no he emphassied yellow flash is

So...any speed feats from Gaara that show he can even blink before Naruto decimates?
reacting to and helping out KCM naruto vs muu, another speedster, reacting to and slowing down mizukage's jouki boi clone which ran so fast it heated itself up enough to explode. reacted to and blocked a kick from raikage, getting in between him and sasuke in an instant. even if he was metres away, raikages ****in fast.
is fighting madara, who was reacting to and putting up his guard against a completely serious LIGHTENED raikage (ie faster than he ever was before thanks to onoki), and against a tsunade who BAM'f out of lightspeed. yeah that was a madara feat not a tsunade feat.
 

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Ok, obvious you're bullshitting/trolling at this point. I posted the scans, read my previous post. You ignored 99% of them and acted as if I didn't post shit. Still nothing from you that's anywhere at all near in any way comparable to Naruto's speed or how they'll survive a bijuu dama. Oh wait, there aren't any that answer those questions because they can't do shit, they gonna die.

Anything these guys do is voided null by the fact Naruto is the fastest character in the manga*see scans in my previous post which you ignored* and nobody else has any feats whatsoever that can near compare to his speed*see how you didn't post any scans from them at all*.

And voided null by the fact I don't give a shit if Gaara tanked a C3, Kurama Bijuu Dama makes the C3 look like a flea. Note the badass Killer Bee rhymes, that's how srs bsns this shit is right now bro. They can't keep up they just too slow. I think I'm going off topic though. Ok I'll stop now >=(

Although he won't have time to blink before he's vaporized let alone put up a shield that big. And he was out of chakra after putting up a shield that big let alone one that makes that entire village look like 1 pixel in size.

"A big black ball"? Yeah. You're obviously downplaying the hell out of Naruto's level of hax if you think it's just a "big attack" that does nothing to all of these fodder. He stomps here, effortlessly and undeniably stomps. there's literally no chance at all that he'll lose this, you're either hating on Naruto or severely downplaying him but if you're trolling you probably got the lulz by now.
 

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anyone who says naruto and sasuke is overrating them to the max. they would probably kill off half of team 2 but they would lose in the end
 

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Quoted by usssj trunks:
i know that. im not an idiot. and i did read it. my point was bijuudams not as strong as you make it out to be.

me: Starting a sentence with an lowercase I apparently says so.

Me: Waste Naruto's chakra? Fer reals? He has close to infinate chakra.

You:bm never was said to be more than 5 minutes.

I was talking about chakra form. Not biju mode. He can use sm clones in chakra mode.
 

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Naruto could just run around in BM mode with sasuke in his cloak spamming Susanoo arrows and Amatarausu. And Naruto could make 25 KM clones and 25 SM clones All of them can spam their Raenshuriken or mini rasenshuriken which is a OHK and unless they have the body of 3rd raikage they will die. And if they dodge Naruto could redirect and nobody is fast enough to dodge it.
 

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And Naruto could make 25 KM clones and 25 SM clones
KM no longer exists. BM has replaced it. unless naruto wants to revert to not having kuramas co operation.

All of them can spam their Raenshuriken or mini rasenshuriken which is a OHK
tell that to third raikage. you got shinobis like gaara who can survive that with ease

I don't give a shit if Gaara tanked a C3, Kurama Bijuu Dama makes the C3 look like a flea.
wont be released when ino's controlling his mind. or if kurenais just MAKING kurama think hes firing one
 

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KM no longer exists. BM has replaced it. unless naruto wants to revert to not having kuramas co operation.

tell that to third raikage. you got shinobis like gaara who can survive that with ease

wont be released when ino's controlling his mind. or if kurenais just MAKING kurama think hes firing one

We're clearly not going to agree. Let's just agree to keep our own opinions, okay?

Anyway, I think the team against Naruto and Sasuke would win anyway, I was just saying it wouldn't be easy.

I do agree with Itachi being a bit evil though, who would torture a seven year old?

But I still like him.
 

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Sasuke dies in the end while Naruto is left exhausted and barely alive. Team Naruto and Sasuke with extreme difficulty if this is a head on battle. If it isn't a head on battle than the other team wins with extreme difficulty as they can hide and wait until Naruto and Sasuke run out of chakra.
 

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tell that to third raikage. you got shinobis like gaara who can survive that with ease
That is baseless Gaara fanboyism. And considering your Gaar avatar, not to point or anything but...

wont be released when ino's controlling his mind. or if kurenais just MAKING kurama think hes firing one

Really? Kurenai couldn't even react to a kick from part 1 Itachi let alone ever think about casting genjutsu to the 1st or 2nd fastest character in the manga. Ino? Hardly reacts to Asuma shooting a dust cloud and calls catching a bird with shintenshihn IMPRESSIVE. Completely baseless right there, speed feats either of them have that suggest they can even blink when compared to this? There isn't any. Stop bullshitting man, seriously.


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That is baseless Gaara fanboyism
naruto agrees with me that gaaras defence surpasses that of third raikage


Really? Kurenai couldn't even react to a kick from part 1 Itachi
your right. she saw through it and even blocked it

Hardly reacts to Asuma shooting a dust cloud
but still reacts to his every hit and fights evenly with him when in two inferior bodies at once
 

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naruto agrees with me that gaaras defence surpasses that of third raikage
Yeah? and that's baseless Gaara fanboyism by Naruto. He hasn't seen Gaara fight since Part 1, Naruto's bullshitting he just likes Gaara and knows he uses sand defense.

your right. she saw through it and even blocked it
My mistake, make that 'hardly reacted' and 'irrelevant because Itachi is easily 100 times slower than Naruto and Kurenai gets blitzed before she can even think about reacting let alone using a genjutsu when she could hardly react to Itachi'

but still reacts to his every hit and fights evenly with him when in two inferior bodies at once
My my my, good thing that's vastly inferior to Naruto's speed and she gets blitzed to oblivion before she can more than process a single thought

I enjoy the way you ignore the link and an entire paragraph props to avoiding arguments you can't counter like a pro.
 

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Team 2 with mid difficulty. You're overhyping naruto and sasuke they are not at goku status ok? they can't win no matter what
 

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I know, but I took out Kakashi, Asuma, Gai, Kurenai, Baki, and Jugo

You can't just "take them out" that's you just not wanting your favorite duo to lost and you're just being frustrating
 

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He hasn't seen Gaara fight since Part 1, Naruto's bullshitting he just likes Gaara and knows he uses sand defense.
how do you know? there was a time skip and sasuke is also aware the defence is intact. gaara told naruto everything about the summit. and perhaps they had sparring sessions in between arcs.
not baseless just cos you say so.

Itachi is easily 100 times slower than Naruto
itachi fans beg to differ lmao. he did kind of keep up with kcm via sharingan precog

Kurenai gets blitzed before she can even think about reacting let alone using a genjutsu when she could hardly react to Itachi'
thats your problem. you think narutos BM is unlimited and he can just keep shunshin'ing everyone and anyone in seconds. it doesnt work that way. naruto doesnt fight that way! and i dont know where you got hardly reacted. she blocked it just fine and the force of it threw her back a bit.

My my my, good thing that's vastly inferior to Naruto's speed and she gets blitzed to oblivion before she can more than process a single thought
wrong. naruto doesnt fight that way. no one has ever blitzed that much. let alone naruto. especially vs an entire army who can spread out and hide as much as they damn well want, while using gaara's sandstorm as cover. naruto detects evil, and most of team 2 are good guys
 
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