[Discussion] Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura.

[narutodrama]

Ok this is about Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and their years of growing up and changes in their personality

let's start with naruto

at the start he was and rebel caused always trubble to get attention, he was dumb and a idiot, a hyper active boy and ignored and hated by people that feared of what he is, his goal of life was to make people acknowledge him so he though being hokage will do that.

i personaly think that naruto matured most. currently he is far smarter, he does not rush on everything though he is still in some situations dumb and acts like a kid, he has trough hard work great will make people to acknowledge him he made great friends but also suffered a lot his best friend and greatest rival sasuke has done terrible things and naruto wants to save him from this circle of endles hatred but has till now fail epicly.

but that didnt change his will power he still continues to save a friend.

he overcome sakura finaly and has other better stuff in his mind

now his goal is to end the circle of hatred in the ninja world and follow the ideology of his father like figure jiraya.

Sasuke in my opinion didnt change a bit in the entier story:

Since the day we saw sasuke he was bitter and had deep hatred to his brother that killed his entier clan, though he find a great friend "naruto" he did not want to stop his revenge on his brother at the end his conquest for more power has made him abbandond his friends and his village to go to orichimaru that could give him the power to defeat his brother there he got stronger and his hatred grown even bigger. he used people for his own benifit and when he finaly has defeat his brother he was maipulated by madara that made sasuke hate once again even more then before his hearth is consumed by dark hatred.

the only change in sasuke in my eyes is that he hated more and more ....


Sakura:

well she was from the start and arogant bi... she had only 1 thing in her mind and that is sasuke she had never any big goals in her life sasuke and naruto had always their own goals that made them stronger.

in the story she did evolve a bit to a great medicine ninja and fighter, but when it comes to hard decisions she crumbles and crys for help

maybe in the future she will elvolve more but currently she is just not good in hard situations.

comments and ideas, facts plz

 

[Scary Yamato]

Speaking about sakura and her lack of aspirations... She hasnt had any hardship in her life like naruto and sasuke had. Those hardships made them stronger like you stated earlier but she still hasnt had that "time to grow up" moment yet.

you can compare the 3 to the legendary sannin. Naruto and Sasuke have already passed thier predacessors, but sakura has not... Tsunade became a healer because of the extreme loss she suffered in her life. While sakura has had some degree of loss, its nothing compared to tsunades, which in my opinion will keep her from finding that "edge" that she needs to motivate herself to work that little bit harder.

She has the potential to become great, she just hasnt found the proper motivation yet.

Naruto has made the most progress from the 3 of them. He is a genious of hard work, second only to lee.

 

[The_Empire]

totally agree with scary

 

[oFuiinJutsuu]

I hope Sakura dies xD She's such a burden ~ All she does is weep

 

[TotallyAlex]

Speaking about sakura and her lack of aspirations... She hasnt had any hardship in her life like naruto and sasuke had. Those hardships made them stronger like you stated earlier but she still hasnt had that "time to grow up" moment yet.

you can compare the 3 to the legendary sannin. Naruto and Sasuke have already passed thier predacessors, but sakura has not... Tsunade became a healer because of the extreme loss she suffered in her life. While sakura has had some degree of loss, its nothing compared to tsunades, which in my opinion will keep her from finding that "edge" that she needs to motivate herself to work that little bit harder.

She has the potential to become great, she just hasnt found the proper motivation yet.

Naruto has made the most progress from the 3 of them. He is a genious of hard work, second only to lee.

While i agree with most of this, the idea that Naruto and Sasuke have surpassed both Jiraiya and Orochimaru is one that i personally disagree with.

Lets start by comparing Sasuke to Oro. While the first arguement is likely that Sasuke defeated Oro, Sasuke himself admits that he was only able to do so because of Oro being on his death bed.

This being said, Sasuke is obviously much stronger now than he was back then. However if we think back to Oro when he was his strongest, Which i believe to be when he fought Hiruzen, we can see that only a ninja of the 3rds calibur was ever able to come close to Oros abilities. Without the dead demon seal Hiruzen would have died fighting Oro. Therefore we can attest that Orochimaru is equal to or greater than Hiruzen. As far as we know in the story the only character that has officially been named stronger than hiruzen is Minato, and considering that the third was able to fight off both the first and 2nd hokage single handedly we know that only a very select few ninja match his strength.

Based on Sasukes battle with Killer Bee and the Raikage i do not believe that Sasuke has achieved the same strength that Oro possessed while at his top form.

Now on to Naruto, Using what i call the "Itachi Card" we can determine that Jiraiya was stronger than orochimaru ever was.

To explain the Itachi card we examine Oros great fear of itachi and his belief that he can not defeat him, as well as the statement made by itachi regarding jiraiya in which itachi admitted that he would not be able to defeat jiraiya this being said we determine that jiraiya>orochimaru and therefore jiraiya>hiruzen.

On top of this we have Pain who admits that if jiraiya would have had intel on him, jiraiya would have been victorious in their battle. So Jiraiya>pain. In Narutos battle with pain, Pain had already exhausted a great deal of chakra destroying the village and was unable to use full strength during the fight. By this we do not have a standard to say whether or not Naruto is stronger than pain or not.

With the information about jiraiya we can determine that based on the manga the only ninja stronger than jiraiya is Minato. After The last 5 manga chapters we have finally seen Minatos true strength and i believe we can universally agree that Minato is far beyond any other ninja in terms of ability.

Note that this theory takes into account the strength of naruto not including his new kyuubi powers and sasuke without EMS because we have yet to see exactly how powerful they have become. We know they will surpass all ninja eventually, i just do not believe they have done so yet.

 

[Jinchuuriki of Juubi]

While i agree with most of this, the idea that Naruto and Sasuke have surpassed both Jiraiya and Orochimaru is one that i personally disagree with.

Lets start by comparing Sasuke to Oro. While the first arguement is likely that Sasuke defeated Oro, Sasuke himself admits that he was only able to do so because of Oro being on his death bed.

This being said, Sasuke is obviously much stronger now than he was back then. However if we think back to Oro when he was his strongest, Which i believe to be when he fought Hiruzen, we can see that only a ninja of the 3rds calibur was ever able to come close to Oros abilities. Without the dead demon seal Hiruzen would have died fighting Oro. Therefore we can attest that Orochimaru is equal to or greater than Hiruzen. As far as we know in the story the only character that has officially been named stronger than hiruzen is Minato, and considering that the third was able to fight off both the first and 2nd hokage single handedly we know that only a very select few ninja match his strength.

Based on Sasukes battle with Killer Bee and the Raikage i do not believe that Sasuke has achieved the same strength that Oro possessed while at his top form.

Now on to Naruto, Using what i call the "Itachi Card" we can determine that Jiraiya was stronger than orochimaru ever was.

To explain the Itachi card we examine Oros great fear of itachi and his belief that he can not defeat him, as well as the statement made by itachi regarding jiraiya in which itachi admitted that he would not be able to defeat jiraiya this being said we determine that jiraiya>orochimaru and therefore jiraiya>hiruzen.

On top of this we have Pain who admits that if jiraiya would have had intel on him, jiraiya would have been victorious in their battle. So Jiraiya>pain. In Narutos battle with pain, Pain had already exhausted a great deal of chakra destroying the village and was unable to use full strength during the fight. By this we do not have a standard to say whether or not Naruto is stronger than pain or not.

With the information about jiraiya we can determine that based on the manga the only ninja stronger than jiraiya is Minato. After The last 5 manga chapters we have finally seen Minatos true strength and i believe we can universally agree that Minato is far beyond any other ninja in terms of ability.

Note that this theory takes into account the strength of naruto not including his new kyuubi powers and sasuke without EMS because we have yet to see exactly how powerful they have become. We know they will surpass all ninja eventually, i just do not believe they have done so yet.

while I see some of your points and agree with some your formula for getting there is completely off.oro is not stronger then hiruzen.and itachi isn't necessarily stronger then oro ever was it's that oro's number one weakness is sharingan.you play the a>b>c game without giving thought to ones personal weaknesses or strengths,handicaps(hiruzen being an old man for example) or factoring in that some people are others worst match ups.but I do agree with ideas you are bringing up.but avoid the a>b>c game because that idealogy is wrong since there are just simply ninjas that have abilitis that give them advantages or disadvantages over another

 

[Jinchuuriki of Juubi]

I hope Sakura dies xD She's such a burden ~ All she does is weep

btw nice sig fuiin

 

[Dean-Winchester]

you guyz hate sakura but dont doubt her abilty
she can use poison
and she was able to withstand sasori
who not only took down a country but also
took down the 3rd kazekage
give her some praise