Naruto Sasuke Hashirama Madara Minato Kakashi Obito vs ALL NV

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So the opposing Sides have Oro, Zetsu,Kabuto,Tobirama,Nagato,Itachi,Muu,Ohonoki,Garra,Danzou,Shisui, others and the GOS Prime Hiruzen

Sorry but Tobirama, Prime Hiruzen, Kabuto, Nagato, Itachi, Oro, Muu, Ohonoki are enough U_U

1. Prime Hiruzen will solo Madara + Hashirama
2. Tobirama = Minato
3. Nagato and Kabuto Rape Naruto
4. Itachi soloes Sasuke
5. Shisui one-shots Obito
6. Danzou controls Kakashi

Muu and Ohonoki are on the look out and are firing Jintons. The Sannins are for strategy, healing summon backups U_U

Agreed 100%
 

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Team 2 win extremely low diff.
1. Akatsuki (Nagato, Kisame, Kakuzu, Deidara, Itachi Uchiha, Hidan, Sasori)

2. DSM Kabuto with edo's

3. Orochimaru with edo's

4. Gai with 8 gates

5. All Tailed beast apart from 9 tails (charging up a TBB which can one shot)

6. Seven Nijna Swordsman of the Mist

7. Kages (Tobirama/Hiruzen/Tsunade/Danzo/Third Raikage/Ay/Third Kazekage/Fourth Kazekage/Gaara/Second
Tsuchikage/Onoki/Second Mizukage/Yagura/Mei)

8. Jiraiya (SM with 4 summons and Shima/Fukasaku)

9. Kin/Gin Brothers (Kyuubi chakra, legendary tools)

10. Shisui Uchiha (KA one shot)

11. Sound ninja (Kimimaro, Kidomaru, Jirobo, Tauyuya, Sakon and Ukon

12. Hyuuga clan (Hiashi, Neji, Hinata, Hizashi, etc.)

12. Nara clan and Yamanaka clan disabling Team 1 with mass attacks

13. All samurais (i.e. Mifune) and all Puppet Masters (i.e. Chiyo)

11. An insane amount of healers to close wounds/Insane amount of Doton users to block any jutsu (including Kitsu, who has mountain smash)/Insane amount of Katon users to nullify and overcome any Juubi sized Katon/Insane amount of Suiton users/ Insane amount of Futon users/Raiton isn't required, but they are present

15. All KKG users (i.e. Darui's storm release, Pakura's scorch style, etc.)

I don't see how people believed that team 1 has a remote chance of winning.
 

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lol and then what? they cant cancel because the fastest and strongest members either kill themselves or turn on their allies

breaking KA is not possible without the user making it so.


not really as they have already been defeated by one of the three KA eyes

You and I both know that's bullshit.
Ao broke mifune out of KA. Unless you have scans to prove your rubbish don't bring it up.

As to your last pparagraph. 3 ka eyes? So shishui has his eye and itachi also has that exact same eye? Wtf? You didnt even prove how your fantasy would remotely works when I already proved kamui can either be cancelled by one of the other kamui members or dodged with ftg/remote ftg. Don't even try to imply Mina to will ftg kill everyone in 1 go when half of team 1 has some sort of defensive armor they fight with.
 

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team 1 takes this high diff....!
 
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Team 2 win extremely low diff.
1. Akatsuki (Nagato, Kisame, Kakuzu, Deidara, Itachi Uchiha, Hidan, Sasori)

2. DSM Kabuto with edo's

3. Orochimaru with edo's

4. Gai with 8 gates

5. All Tailed beast apart from 9 tails (charging up a TBB which can one shot)

6. Seven Nijna Swordsman of the Mist

7. Kages (Tobirama/Hiruzen/Tsunade/Danzo/Third Raikage/Ay/Third Kazekage/Fourth Kazekage/Gaara/Second
Tsuchikage/Onoki/Second Mizukage/Yagura/Mei)

8. Jiraiya (SM with 4 summons and Shima/Fukasaku)

9. Kin/Gin Brothers (Kyuubi chakra, legendary tools)

10. Shisui Uchiha (KA one shot)

11. Sound ninja (Kimimaro, Kidomaru, Jirobo, Tauyuya, Sakon and Ukon

12. Hyuuga clan (Hiashi, Neji, Hinata, Hizashi, etc.)

12. Nara clan and Yamanaka clan disabling Team 1 with mass attacks

13. All samurais (i.e. Mifune) and all Puppet Masters (i.e. Chiyo)

11. An insane amount of healers to close wounds/Insane amount of Doton users to block any jutsu (including Kitsu, who has mountain smash)/Insane amount of Katon users to nullify and overcome any Juubi sized Katon/Insane amount of Suiton users/ Insane amount of Futon users/Raiton isn't required, but they are present

15. All KKG users (i.e. Darui's storm release, Pakura's scorch style, etc.)

I don't see how people believed that team 1 has a remote chance of winning.

Out of all of them, who counters Sage Art: 1000 Hands?

And then out of all of them who can, who counters a kyuubi enhanced version of Sage Art: 1000 hands?
 
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Out of all of them, who counters Sage Art: 1000 Hands?

And then out of all of them who can, who counters a kyuubi enhanced version of Sage Art: 1000 hands?

lol a combined effort of all he posted would 1 shot shinsuujin
 
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lol a combined effort of all he posted would 1 shot shinsuujin

But then what about 2 Perfect Susano'o and 2 Kyuubi's spamming TBB with Obito in the battlefield and Kakashi on the side warping people all at the same time?

All Kyuubi enhanced too.
 

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But then what about 2 Perfect Susano'o and 2 Kyuubi's spamming TBB with Obito in the battlefield and Kakashi on the side warping people all at the same time?

All Kyuubi enhanced too.
KA one shots Obito, and can make him switch sides. Kisame can use Samehada to absorb lots of the chakra in the TBB's. Deidara can use C0 to kill himself and take one for the team. Itachi repels TBB's coming his way back at the original users. Onoki and Mu combined Jinton to make a giant Jinton which one shots. Gaara, 2nd Kazekage, and third kazekage can combine sand/gold dust/IS based attacks to destroy the opposing team. Edo Tensei's storm in the fight with no regards to death. After all, the enemy team can't seal. Preta absorbs Naruto's chakra. Preta absorbs amatertasu. I really don't see how some people can be ignorant enough to think team 1 wins. I am barely factoring out the fact that 1000 Katons fused with Futton could be used simultaneously at Team 1.
 

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Many people tend to forget that there are many other powerhouses which can team up and put forth a good fight if not win. Kabuto, Nagato, three sannin, four kages, Tobirama, Itachi, Killer bee, Kisame, Entire akatsuki, Danzo and so on so forth.
So answer is team 2 will take this extremely high diff.
 

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they cant.
KA was hyped as THE most powerful genjutsu that any uchiha could possibly get. obito practically wet himself at the prospect of having it. now why would he want a jutsu that only has a use if the target doesnt know?
i mean genjutsus are already supposed to work that way like when deidara thought he saw sasuke die to C4.
KA's power lies in influencing the target to do anything they want as if it were their own thoughts and the only person who can end it is the user. otherwise why didnt we see anyone simply place a hand on mifune if thats all it takes?

The only person that was actively sensing(since jutsu was supposed to be banned in that room) was mei's assistant. That's why he was the only one to notice. And the fact that he noticed that mifune was the only one affected means he also saw the flux and irregularity in his chakra.
 

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KA one shots Obito, and can make him switch sides. Kisame can use Samehada to absorb lots of the chakra in the TBB's. Deidara can use C0 to kill himself and take one for the team. Itachi repels TBB's coming his way back at the original users. Onoki and Mu combined Jinton to make a giant Jinton which one shots. Gaara, 2nd Kazekage, and third kazekage can combine sand/gold dust/IS based attacks to destroy the opposing team. Edo Tensei's storm in the fight with no regards to death. After all, the enemy team can't seal. Preta absorbs Naruto's chakra. Preta absorbs amatertasu. I really don't see how some people can be ignorant enough to think team 1 wins. I am barely factoring out the fact that 1000 Katons fused with Futton could be used simultaneously at Team 1.

No one's getting affected by ka.
 

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Kakashi gets killed
 
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KA one shots Obito, and can make him switch sides. Kisame can use Samehada to absorb lots of the chakra in the TBB's. Deidara can use C0 to kill himself and take one for the team. Itachi repels TBB's coming his way back at the original users. Onoki and Mu combined Jinton to make a giant Jinton which one shots. Gaara, 2nd Kazekage, and third kazekage can combine sand/gold dust/IS based attacks to destroy the opposing team. Edo Tensei's storm in the fight with no regards to death. After all, the enemy team can't seal. Preta absorbs Naruto's chakra. Preta absorbs amatertasu. I really don't see how some people can be ignorant enough to think team 1 wins. I am barely factoring out the fact that 1000 Katons fused with Futton could be used simultaneously at Team 1.

lol

Kisame will be obliterated before he absorbs a TBB. Yata will not repel any TBB. C0 may kill someone, I guess. Tell me more about how Ohnoki and Muu used this huge Jinton against EMS Madara. And if you wanna play the Preta game, then Madara can use it too. Not to mention the fact that Wood Dragons also absorb Chakra. Any other Tailed Beast is Matched by Naruto and Killer Bee is Matched by both Naruto and Minato.

Who can counter a kyuubi enhanced Few Thousand Hands with chakra suppressing ability? Let alone a Madara and Naruto fused PS Kyuubi all throwing TBB with PS swords in them.

Seriously Madara and Hashirama can almost solo with just the scale of their attacks. I mean PS slashes mountains by itself. Naruto is there magnifying both of their abilities as well as supply healing to the entire squad.

Call it ignorance if you want, but Im well aware of what both teams can do. And none of the people on team 2 have attacks or defenses that are on the scale of EMS Madara w/ Rinnegan (Meteor Spam) and Sennin Modo Hashirama, let alone with a boost 3x times stronger from Naruto.

Add in the fact that Naruto and Sasuke are absolute powerhouses and that Obito can't even be touched and all Kakashi has to do is look at you. It's just too much for the rest of the NV.

Also if Madara has the same mastery of the Rinnegan as Nagato then it's even more overkill. Deva destroyed Konoha with Nagato's chakra alone. Imagine what Madara could do with Naruto's enchantment. I mean who can defend against this attack?!
 

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lol

Kisame will be obliterated before he absorbs a TBB. Yata will not repel any TBB. C0 may kill someone, I guess. Tell me more about how Ohnoki and Muu used this huge Jinton against EMS Madara. And if you wanna play the Preta game, then Madara can use it too. Not to mention the fact that Wood Dragons also absorb Chakra. Any other Tailed Beast is Matched by Naruto and Killer Bee is Matched by both Naruto and Minato.

Who can counter a kyuubi enhanced Few Thousand Hands with chakra suppressing ability? Let alone a Madara and Naruto fused PS Kyuubi all throwing TBB with PS swords in them.

Seriously Madara and Hashirama can almost solo with just the scale of their attacks. I mean PS slashes mountains by itself. Naruto is there magnifying both of their abilities as well as supply healing to the entire squad.

Call it ignorance if you want, but Im well aware of what both teams can do. And none of the people on team 2 have attacks or defenses that are on the scale of EMS Madara w/ Rinnegan (Meteor Spam) and Sennin Modo Hashirama, let alone with a boost 3x times stronger from Naruto.

Add in the fact that Naruto and Sasuke are absolute powerhouses and that Obito can't even be touched and all Kakashi has to do is look at you. It's just too much for the rest of the NV.

Also if Madara has the same mastery of the Rinnegan as Nagato then it's even more overkill. Deva destroyed Konoha with Nagato's chakra alone. Imagine what Madara could do with Naruto's enchantment. I mean who can defend against this attack?!
Kisame will absorb half the TBB, doesn't mean it explodes while he absorbs it. a counteracting TBB takes it out. People say 50% Kyuubi can take on 6 tailed beasts TBB's. However, these tailed beats are begin controlled by someone who isn't utilising their power. We have already seen the difference between a jinchuriki controlled tailed beast and an externally controlled tailed beats i.e. Juubi/Kyuubi. Having 8 tailed beats controlled will easily result in 100% kurama getting overwhelmed, especially when his attempt of a TBB is backfired when Nagato uses deva path onto it. Yata can repel TBB, nothing suggests it can't. Yes, but there is a difference. Last I checked, this is not edo's, so Madara isn't using Preta. However, I will be nice and grant him it. It still doesn't change the fact that he can't absorb omnidirectional attacks between all his allies and attacks like Gold dust and Iron sand Wood dragon is shitted on by the Third Kazekage's gold dust which can't be absorbed Shadow possession is also un-absorbable.. ST also destroys wood dragon as well.

Since when can Hashirama combine his SM with the Kyuubi's chakra?... Jinton takes out Shisuusenju's feat and it falls over, becoming useless. PS gets jinton on its lower body, and Gaara's sand can take him out. Ay is given super light weight, carries onoki, uses v2 to blot to the PS enhanced Kyuubi, and uses super weighted boulder to completely immobilise it. DSM Kabuto uses white rage which disables Susano as shown in the fight of Itachi vs Sasuke. Frog genjutsu disables the entire team 1 excluding BSM Naruto. Who is then raped.

Kyuubi chakra isn't working with SM Hashirama. Although it works with PS, but that doesn't mean it will be stronger considering nothing implies it has anything to do with chakra quantity. Onlything that's been implied is chakra control and sharingan version.

You don't seem to be aware of team 2's scale. 2 KA users; Danzo and Shisui. One takes out Kakashi and one takes out Obito, where Obito could've been manipulated and have been put on a switch of sides. I won't though. 2 Jinton users who can take out the legs of Shisuusenju to make it trip or take out the lower body of PS so Gaara can take Madara out of it.

Obito and Kakashi are KA'd. They aren't factors. Edo's which can't be sealed are also too much for team 1. Tell me how Itachi's Yata is stopped.

Too bad he doesn't.

Anyways, team 1 doesn't have infinite chakra. Naruto and Minato or not, Naruto's avatar stays 8 mins and Minato's stays 5 mins, big deal. I don't think he can hand out chakra when he's out of BM, but i May be mistaken if you bring proof. Sound genjutsu ends this. White rage gives a big opening for the rat of team 2. Any attack from Pakura would one shot in their non-susano states. Frog genjutsu one shots them all except Naruto and Minato. Kin/Gin seal with their weapons at least one. Anyways, they don't keep fighting forever, in which the 100,000 shinobi's apart from the ones I speak of will end up killing the exhausted team 1.
 

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xKid is fanboying hardcore..
 

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sage,sage sons,Itachi(KA),Orochimaru,Jiraiya,Kabuto,Izuna,Shisui(KA),Danzo(KA),Nagato,other Akatsuki members Akatsuki, all Jounins like gai,Hiashi,Neji,Azuma,Zabuza ect...... all Kages in History(Tobirama,Mu ect..) and many other good shinobi
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xKid is fanboying hardcore..

Please explain to me how though? lol None of these characters on team 1 are even my favorites or my top 5 bar Kakashi and even I realize he'd be the first one dead in this situation.

The facts are who can stop Perfect Susano'o slashes fused with TBBs?

Oh only Hashirama can. Yet they are on the same team.

Who can stop Shissusenju? Only Madara can stalemate it. Yet they are on the same team.

Kisame will absorb half the TBB, doesn't mean it explodes while he absorbs it. a counteracting TBB takes it out. People say 50% Kyuubi can take on 6 tailed beasts TBB's. However, these tailed beats are begin controlled by someone who isn't utilising their power. We have already seen the difference between a jinchuriki controlled tailed beast and an externally controlled tailed beats i.e. Juubi/Kyuubi. Having 8 tailed beats controlled will easily result in 100% kurama getting overwhelmed, especially when his attempt of a TBB is backfired when Nagato uses deva path onto it. Yata can repel TBB, nothing suggests it can't. Yes, but there is a difference. Last I checked, this is not edo's, so Madara isn't using Preta. However, I will be nice and grant him it. It still doesn't change the fact that he can't absorb omnidirectional attacks between all his allies and attacks like Gold dust and Iron sand Wood dragon is shitted on by the Third Kazekage's gold dust which can't be absorbed Shadow possession is also un-absorbable.. ST also destroys wood dragon as well.

Since when can Hashirama combine his SM with the Kyuubi's chakra?... Jinton takes out Shisuusenju's feat and it falls over, becoming useless. PS gets jinton on its lower body, and Gaara's sand can take him out. Ay is given super light weight, carries onoki, uses v2 to blot to the PS enhanced Kyuubi, and uses super weighted boulder to completely immobilise it. DSM Kabuto uses white rage which disables Susano as shown in the fight of Itachi vs Sasuke. Frog genjutsu disables the entire team 1 excluding BSM Naruto. Who is then raped.

Kyuubi chakra isn't working with SM Hashirama. Although it works with PS, but that doesn't mean it will be stronger considering nothing implies it has anything to do with chakra quantity. Onlything that's been implied is chakra control and sharingan version.

You don't seem to be aware of team 2's scale. 2 KA users; Danzo and Shisui. One takes out Kakashi and one takes out Obito, where Obito could've been manipulated and have been put on a switch of sides. I won't though. 2 Jinton users who can take out the legs of Shisuusenju to make it trip or take out the lower body of PS so Gaara can take Madara out of it.

Obito and Kakashi are KA'd. They aren't factors. Edo's which can't be sealed are also too much for team 1. Tell me how Itachi's Yata is stopped.

Too bad he doesn't.

Anyways, team 1 doesn't have infinite chakra. Naruto and Minato or not, Naruto's avatar stays 8 mins and Minato's stays 5 mins, big deal. I don't think he can hand out chakra when he's out of BM, but i May be mistaken if you bring proof. Sound genjutsu ends this. White rage gives a big opening for the rat of team 2. Any attack from Pakura would one shot in their non-susano states. Frog genjutsu one shots them all except Naruto and Minato. Kin/Gin seal with their weapons at least one. Anyways, they don't keep fighting forever, in which the 100,000 shinobi's apart from the ones I speak of will end up killing the exhausted team 1.

Throughout the whole series it has been stated that perfect Jinchuriki are better at controlling power that tailed beasts do alone. So I don't understand what you mean by that. Not that it matters since Hashirama can suppress all of the other Bijuu.

And what do you mean since when can Hashirama combine his chakra with the Kyuubi's? Naruto has shown the feat of touching people and literally adapting to their chakra nature and it has been stated that it makes them 3 times stronger. Is Hashirama an exception to this?

And since we are going on senseless databook hype then Kamui has no defense. Yata was used one time against some paper bombs and it did not even repel the blast. It acted as a shield. To think that Yata could repel countless TBBs with Itachi's poor stamina is laughable.

Again tell me more about how Ohnoki and Muu beat EMS Madara with this super Jinton of theirs.

You mentioned Edos first but when I do it, you say no Edos, then at the end of your post say Edos again? lmao. I assume you mean the characters being Edos themselves versus the actual technique of Edo Tensei(Orochimaru Kabuto Tobirama). However, it doesn't really matter since 1) It's every ninja in the NV so who will be Edo Tensei'd? and 2) Madara is alive and has the rinnegan currently.

I only mentioned Preta because you mentioned it, so any counter you use there, is really just one against yourself.

You think if Multiple TBBs with PS swords couldn't take down Shissusenju then Jinton will take out it's legs and make it useless?

Yes Obito and Kakashi are probably non factors, but that doesn't mean they can't lessen the load before they are beat.

KA will not work against a team with 4 sharingan users who can see the disrupted chakra and take precautions against it. Once that happens then what? It has a huge cooldown. Should not even be used, but hey.
I assume since Naruto can summon Ma and Pa that he can also use Frog Genjutsu so then what?

Seriously Deidara's C4 has a better chance at killing most of team 1 than most of what you named.

Not to mention Hashi's Flower Tree World.

But whatevs.
 
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Please explain to me how though? lol None of these characters on team 1 are even my favorites or my top 5 bar Kakashi and even I realize he'd be the first one dead in this situation.

The facts are who can stop Perfect Susano'o slashes fused with TBBs?

Oh only Hashirama can. Yet they are on the same team.

Who can stop Shissusenju? Only Madara can stalemate it. Yet they are on the same team.



Throughout the whole series it has been stated that perfect Jinchuriki are better at controlling power that tailed beasts do alone. So I don't understand what you mean by that. Not that it matters since Hashirama can suppress all of the other Bijuu.

And what do you mean since when can Hashirama combine his chakra with the Kyuubi's? Naruto has shown the feat of touching people and literally adapting to their chakra nature and it has been stated that it makes them 3 times stronger. Is Hashirama an exception to this?

And since we are going on senseless databook hype then Kamui has no defense. Yata was used one time against some paper bombs and it did not even repel the blast. It acted as a shield. To think that Yata could repel countless TBBs with Itachi's poor stamina is laughable.

Again tell me more about how Ohnoki and Muu beat EMS Madara with this super Jinton of theirs.

You mentioned Edos first but when I do it, you say no Edos, then at the end of your post say Edos again? lmao. I assume you mean the characters being Edos themselves versus the actual technique of Edo Tensei(Orochimaru Kabuto Tobirama). However, it doesn't really matter since 1) It's every ninja in the NV so who will be Edo Tensei'd? and 2) Madara is alive and has the rinnegan currently.

I only mentioned Preta because you mentioned it, so any counter you use there, is really just one against yourself.

You think if Multiple TBBs with PS swords couldn't take down Shissusenju then Jinton will take out it's legs and make it useless?

Yes Obito and Kakashi are probably non factors, but that doesn't mean they can't lessen the load before they are beat.

KA will not work against a team with 4 sharingan users who can see the disrupted chakra and take precautions against it. Once that happens then what? It has a huge cooldown. Should not even be used, but hey.
I assume since Naruto can summon Ma and Pa that he can also use Frog Genjutsu so then what?

Seriously Deidara's C4 has a better chance at killing most of team 1 than most of what you named.

Not to mention Hashi's Flower Tree World.

But whatevs.

so your telling me the combined efforts (Keyword Combined Attack abilities) of every ninja in the series can't take down Shinshuujin? IF so you need help
 
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so your telling me the combined efforts (Keyword Combined Attack abilities) of every ninja in the series can't take down Shinshuujin? IF so you need help

Obviously I thought I made it clear that I accepted your comment when I replied to it the first time.

Yes they more than likely could. But this isn't NV versus Hashirama.

Now do I think that they would take down Shissusenju, Madara's PS, Naruto's and Sasuke's Kyuubi PS, Minato's full fox form, on top of Hashi and Maddy's Mokuton clones, and Naruto's Clones all while trying to avoid 2 different Kamui's? No I do not think so.

I guess it really just depends on how big you think PS and Shissusenju really are. But to me, they make people look like ants, and it doesn't really take alot for you to kill an ant does it?
 

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Throughout the whole series it has been stated that perfect Jinchuriki are better at controlling power that tailed beasts do alone. So I don't understand what you mean by that. Not that it matters since Hashirama can suppress all of the other Bijuu.

And what do you mean since when can Hashirama combine his chakra with the Kyuubi's? Naruto has shown the feat of touching people and literally adapting to their chakra nature and it has been stated that it makes them 3 times stronger. Is Hashirama an exception to this?

And since we are going on senseless databook hype then Kamui has no defense. Yata was used one time against some paper bombs and it did not even repel the blast. It acted as a shield. To think that Yata could repel countless TBBs with Itachi's poor stamina is laughable.

Again tell me more about how Ohnoki and Muu beat EMS Madara with this super Jinton of theirs.

You mentioned Edos first but when I do it, you say no Edos, then at the end of your post say Edos again? lmao. I assume you mean the characters being Edos themselves versus the actual technique of Edo Tensei(Orochimaru Kabuto Tobirama). However, it doesn't really matter since 1) It's every ninja in the NV so who will be Edo Tensei'd? and 2) Madara is alive and has the rinnegan currently.

I only mentioned Preta because you mentioned it, so any counter you use there, is really just one against yourself.

You think if Multiple TBBs with PS swords couldn't take down Shissusenju then Jinton will take out it's legs and make it useless?

Yes Obito and Kakashi are probably non factors, but that doesn't mean they can't lessen the load before they are beat.

KA will not work against a team with 4 sharingan users who can see the disrupted chakra and take precautions against it. Once that happens then what? It has a huge cooldown. Should not even be used, but hey.
I assume since Naruto can summon Ma and Pa that he can also use Frog Genjutsu so then what?

Seriously Deidara's C4 has a better chance at killing most of team 1 than most of what you named.

Not to mention Hashi's Flower Tree World.

But whatevs.

da****.
Hashirama's trees aren't reaching that far when ST takes them all out with one hit [ ]. And what I meant was Juubi being controlled by external sources i.e. Madara and Obito, was much stronger when it found it's jinchuriki, as you could see with the strength and TBB's it was firing. The Kyuubi was much weaker than it should've been when it was being controlled by Madara instead of Naruto as a jin. The 8 Bijuu's would all have this applied onto them, meaning 8 perfect jinn's rape.

I said with SM. Learn to read. He would have to balance it with senjutsu, and Naruto isn't doing that for him via the kyuubi's chakra. Moreover, Hashirama has no such feat.

Indeed, Kamui has no defines. It isn't hype, it's simply can't be defended against. It can be evaded with S/T but that is all. Anyways, KA ends Kakashi before he even knows who to target between the 500,000 shinobi's. Danzo/Shisui spot Kakashi and Obito instantly. Fine, I will go by what I previously said and make them all non-edo. Still doesn't change the fact everyone that was once dead is now alive (Although I assume SO6P isn't part of this). Anyways, Itachi can use yata mirror, and then deactivate Susano. you act as if he can't use Susano or fight without being on the floor. He fought with Sasuke and didn't have that bad of a stamina if he weren't sick. This thread assumes everyone is healthy, otherwise I could also say Madara at his deathbed. Itachi healthy can easily repel back many TBB's with no difficulty since nothing suggests the size will make him tire out at a greater pace.

NV means literally every ninja. So yes, Madara is alive and has the rinnegan as that is his prime.

No?.. Madara cannot cover all his allies with preta, while Nagato can easily go forward and use preta to stop the attack. Moreover, you seem to be ignoring my point of ST hitting the Kyuubi while he's charging TBB and making the TBB backfire onto it.

TBB with swords took out many arms. Jinton is an even stronger offensive attack and the area it operates since it breaks everything down to a molecular level. Shisuusenju isn't n exception to this. Anyways, Madara never even aimed for the legs, Jinton can be aimed at the legs and wipe them away from existence.

True, they can take out one person each before they are out. Kakashi can kamui someone and then proceed to die from KA. Obito can go intangible, take someone out by materialising, which is when he is KA'd. KA puts you through a false experience and manipulates you completely. Nothing suggests they will be broken out of it before they have changed sides. Itachi was going to use it to give Sasuke wrong beliefs and manipulate him to protect Konoha, by giving it the command "protect Konoha", but it ended up being used on Itachi, and had the exact same effect. Nothing suggests Obito can't be manipulated, and Kakashi can't be manipulated, by changing their sides.

Deva path takes out the frogs like it did last time with a single ST/BT.

Deidera's c4 lol.. That would affect the entire alliance as well so no thanks. Chakra roar makes it backfire.

Hashi's flower world back fires on team 1. It also isn't working when a single ST disperse it so much it has no effect. How did you say team 1 counters the sand, gold dust, iron sand combo again? I don't see how such a tsunami can be even countered considering its weight an quantity. Furthermore, they can magnetise Minato's FTG Kunai's and remove them from him, and absorb the mark within it. You still have no viable reasoning as to how team 1 wins.
 
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