Naruto & Sasuke Gauntlet

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End of Part 1 Naruto & Sasuke (The Versions that fought each other before the start of Shippuden) Team up. What round do they stop at?


Round 1: CS2 Sound 4

Round 2: CS2 Sound 5

Round 3: Zabuza & Haku

Round 4: Kid Itachi & Shisui (The Versions that fought Anbu in the anime)

Round 5: Kakuzu

Round 6: 7 Ninja Swordsman of the mist

 

[Infant]

No chance at any of them.

Round 1: Sound Four
Sound Four have has CM lvl 2 for a lot longer, so by description are far better at it, and since their normal forms are already above the duo in similar form, they are outright stronger even in 2-on-2 clashes.
Gamabunta himself is troubled since the weakest of the four, Jirobo, could already contend with the weight of boss summon in Choji. With him, three of the four are needed.

Round 2: Plus Kimimaro
Kimimaro could solo, as per power implication.

Round 3: Zabuza and Haku
Haku can solo, using ice projectiles to defeat Gamabunta.

Round 4: Kid Uchiha Prodigies
With Mangekyou powers the duo can beat Gamabunta, without them he beats the duo.


Round 5: Kakuzu
Wind Mask alone is a pain because it can fly and bore holes in trees. Adding one more mask guarantees victory.

Round 6: Seven Swordfolk
The size and jumps of Gamabunta will need Hiramekarei to beat. So he could beat a group of around 3 of them, but any more will be countered by their combined chakra constructs.

 

[Kyuubishadowclone]

No chance at any of them.

Round 1: Sound Four
Sound Four have has CM lvl 2 for a lot longer, so by description are far better at it, and since their normal forms are already above the duo in similar form, they are outright stronger even in 2-on-2 clashes.
Gamabunta himself is troubled since the weakest of the four, Jirobo, could already contend with the weight of boss summon in Choji. With him, three of the four are needed.

Round 2: Plus Kimimaro
Kimimaro could solo, as per power implication.

Round 3: Zabuza and Haku
Haku can solo, using ice projectiles to defeat Gamabunta.

Round 4: Kid Uchiha Prodigies
With Mangekyou powers the duo can beat Gamabunta, without them he beats the duo.


Round 5: Kakuzu
Wind Mask alone is a pain because it can fly and bore holes in trees. Adding one more mask guarantees victory.

Round 6: Seven Swordfolk
The size and jumps of Gamabunta will need Hiramekarei to beat. So he could beat a group of around 3 of them, but any more will be countered by their combined chakra constructs.

Round 1: it doesnt matter if the sound 4 had there curse marks longer...sasuke and kimi have stronger Curse Seals then sound 4. Besides V1 Naruto shadow clone spam can even up the odds. Also Gamabunta would slap CS2 Jirobo...he was fighting a tailed beast (Shukaku).

Round 2: CS2 Kimi would for sure be the only threat... but i dont see him taking a V1 Kyuubi amped Rasengan or Onyx Chidori....

Round 3: V1 Kyuubi amped Rasengan destroys ice mirrors and CS2 Sharingan pre-cog helps to balance out haku and zabuzas speed, while if naruto and sasuke get caught in zabuzas hidden mist, sasuke in CS2 can fly out of the mist...or naruto can shadow clone spam to buy a distraction.


Round 4: Kid Itachi didnt have Mangekyou (at least the version i listed) im not even sure Shisui had his mangekyo at this point, but i do know they both had 3T Sharingan at this point.


Round 5: CS2 sasuke can fly too...

 

[Infant]

Round 1: it doesnt matter if the sound 4 had there curse marks longer...sasuke and kimi have stronger Curse Seals then sound 4. Besides V1 Naruto shadow clone spam can even up the odds. Also Gamabunta would slap CS2 Jirobo...he was fighting a tailed beast (Shukaku).

Round 2: CS2 Kimi would for sure be the only threat... but i dont see him taking a V1 Kyuubi amped Rasengan or Onyx Chidori....

Round 3: V1 Kyuubi amped Rasengan destroys ice mirrors and CS2 Sharingan pre-cog helps to balance out haku and zabuzas speed, while if naruto and sasuke get caught in zabuzas hidden mist, sasuke in CS2 can fly out of the mist...or naruto can shadow clone spam to buy a distraction.


Round 4: Kid Itachi didnt have Mangekyou (at least the version i listed) im not even sure Shisui had his mangekyo at this point, but i do know they both had 3T Sharingan at this point.


Round 5: CS2 sasuke can fly too...

How much stronger? Does it make up the time difference? What does 'stronger' even apply to? I believe the answers to these questions are all strongly against Sasuke.

Quick answer is that lvl 1 Sakon bodied lvl 1 Sasuke. On top of which these curse marks are multipliers of base forms, which means having a bigger boost is worthless if your base form is too weak. Sasuke definitely has a weaker base form so . . .

Since Naruto is implied equal to Sasuke, normal assumption is that his specific abilities make no difference to his level.

I agree Gamabunta would beat him, but not slap. At least, Tayuya and Kidomaru would hard counter with genjutsu and arrows.

Pine Dance alone keeps the boys at bay and slaughters them if they get close.
Bullets beat Gamabunta.
Also, his bone armour is equivalent to steel, so addng in its thickness means that they could never get through to his flesh. And even if they did, the dude regenerates spines for a living.

Serious Haku closes their chakra points before they can even blink. If Kurama leaks out, then a Haku with KI would disect Naruto. Remember, normal Haku didn't wanna killl, he literally preferred death over killing the boys.

I'm not sure it'd be enough, 3T, against the specific boosts that the boys have. Kurama leaking out seems to nullify anything they have (shuriken, genjutsu, exploding clones).

No, he can glide. Big difference, especially when the mask is so much faster

 

[Kakooli]

pipole mentioning gamapunta like naruto coon could reliably summons him pwahahfofofoohoho!!!!!

 

[Infant]

pipole mentioning gamapunta like naruto coon could reliably summons him pwahahfofofoohoho!!!!!

With his life on the line . . .

 

[Kakooli]

With his life on the line . . .

did he do it during sanin deadlock fight?!?!?!?!?

 

[Infant]

did he do it during sanin deadlock fight?!?!?!?!?

Jiraiya did it

 

[Kakooli]

How does Naruto nd Saskey deal with Tayuya genjutsu in round 1??? or kidomaru webs....

 

[Infant]

How does Naruto nd Saskey deal with Tayuya genjutsu in round 1??? or kidomaru webs....

They don't.

Interesting how bro is accusing me of joke threads and trolling . . .

 

[Kyuubishadowclone]

How does Naruto nd Saskey deal with Tayuya genjutsu in round 1??? or kidomaru webs....

Naruto has Kyuubi to break him out... Im sure Sasukes sharingan Genjutsu can counter out Tayuyas....
Onyx Chidori can cut through kidos webs...

 

[Infant]

Naruto has Kyuubi to break him out... Im sure Sasukes sharingan Genjutsu can counter out Tayuyas....
Onyx Chidori can cut through kidos webs...

Literally how does one-sided Sharingan counter the genjutsu?

You got point on Kurama.

Chidori from EMS Sasuke couldn't cut those strings, in what world is Chidori doing it?

 

[Kyuubishadowclone]

Literally how does one-sided Sharingan counter the genjutsu?

You got point on Kurama.

Chidori from EMS Sasuke couldn't cut those strings, in what world is Chidori doing it?

Whats one-sided sharingan?
the webs that EMS sasuke was fighting were from SageMode Kabuto...so of coarse there going to be crazy strong....but webs from CS2 Kidomaru are no where near kabutos (yes, im aware kabutos using kidos technique).
Base chunin exams sasukes chidori was able to pierce gaaras sand defence.....End of Part 1 CS2 Sasukes Onyx Chidori would wreck kidos webs.

 

[Infant]

Whats one-sided sharingan?
the webs that EMS sasuke was fighting were from SageMode Kabuto...so of coarse there going to be crazy strong....but webs from CS2 Kidomaru are no where near kabutos (yes, im aware kabutos using kidos technique).
Base chunin exams sasukes chidori was able to pierce gaaras sand defence.....End of Part 1 CS2 Sasukes Onyx Chidori would wreck kidos webs.

Sharingan from you, without a partner to use their own sharingan on you to cast a counter-genjutsu . . Or were you not aware that's how they broke genjutsu against Kabuto? (it happens, I won't shame you, but you gotta be honest and get off the high horse)

The difference between this Sasuke and EMS Sasuke is.far greator than the difference between sage mode and curse mark lvl2. Then there's the fact that by scaling, Kabuto used the abilities of the sound five at a lower level than they could. Seriously, compare Sawarabi no Mai from Kimimaro in part 1 with what Kabuto did in that fight.

Sand is specifically weak to raiton, cmon. Meanwhile the webs are steel-hard silk (conducts electricity instead of clashing with it) and they block chakra . . .

Look bro, nobody starts out perfect and that's not a shameful thing. And even if you knew everything, your high-horse-ness is kinda off-putting. Anyway, right now it feels like trying to have a civil discussion with a toddler who arrogantly thinks he knows everything and is making all sorts of assumptions and and and. So I don't have the energy to spill basic manga concepts under those conditions.

So imma just say this: BEFORE MAKING A CLAIM, SEEK OUT AND PROVIDE EVIDENCE! You'll genuinely learn so much just from the research process alone. Please

 

[Kakooli]

Naruto has Kyuubi to break him out... Im sure Sasukes sharingan Genjutsu can counter out Tayuyas....
Onyx Chidori can cut through kidos webs...

every genjutsu on part 1 naruto coon solo him......kurama didnt help........ remember chunin exam when kabuto feather genjutsu solo naruto coon???!?!?

 

[Kyuubishadowclone]

every genjutsu on part 1 naruto coon solo him......kurama didnt help........ remember chunin exam when kabuto feather genjutsu solo naruto coon???!?!?

Thats true, but the OP states End of part 1 (Valley of the end fight to be specific) versions...not Chunin exams. It seems likley that if V1 Kyuubi amped Naruto were to switch places with his chunin exams self, and kabuto did his feather genjutsu...kurama could brake him out at that point

 

[Infant]

Thats true, but the OP states End of part 1 (Valley of the end fight to be specific) versions...not Chunin exams. It seems likley that if V1 Kyuubi amped Naruto were to switch places with his chunin exams self, and kabuto did his feather genjutsu...kurama could brake him out at that point

I'm not sure on the effect but Kurama can always leak out his chakra, when he decides to do so.

Its just that Naruto himself keeps him back and Kurama did not detect killing intent (remember, he is 1000 yrs old) from Kabuto and Itachi later on.

But I'm not sure if simply leaking chakra can be strong enough to break genjutsu, since Kurama genuinely asked Sasuke to have mercy on Naruto, which implies genjutsu can suppress Kurama.

 

[Kakooli]

Thats true, but the OP states End of part 1 (Valley of the end fight to be specific) versions...not Chunin exams. It seems likley that if V1 Kyuubi amped Naruto were to switch places with his chunin exams self, and kabuto did his feather genjutsu...kurama could brake him out at that point

hnnn......since we have zero tata on p1 naruto coon counter genjutsu i say tayuya flute solo him.........

also saskey and itachi struggle with this genjutsu and need each other ms to break it.........

saskey and itachi also need amaterasu to beat kidomaru web.......saskey shidori would not break it......

lakookie think they have better chance vs haku zabuza then sound 4.....

 

[Kyuubishadowclone]

hnnn......since we have zero tata on p1 naruto coon counter genjutsu i say tayuya flute solo him.........

also saskey and itachi struggle with this genjutsu and need each other ms to break it.........

saskey and itachi also need amaterasu to beat kidomaru web.......saskey shidori would not break it......

lakookie think they have better chance vs haku zabuza then sound 4.....

That was SageMode Kabuto using Tayuyas gengutsu...its not the same. Its been amped and made significantly more powerful by kabuto. Like for example, Shikamaru can break out of tayuyas genjutsu...but EMS Sasuke and Edo Itachi both need to use Sharingan to break out of kabutos genjutsu. So tayuyas genjutsu is fodder compared to kabutos genjutsu. Another example is alot of people can break out of yamatos wood release...but NOT alot of people can break out of hashiramas woid release. Same technique, diffrent power levels.
Sound 4 needed to go CS2 against tired and exhausted from mission genma and raido (leaf jonin)....zabuza alone could take or at the very least stalemate genma and raido.

 

[Kakooli]

That was SageMode Kabuto using Tayuyas gengutsu...its not the same. Its been amped and made significantly more powerful by kabuto. Like for example, Shikamaru can break out of tayuyas genjutsu...but EMS Sasuke and Edo Itachi both need to use Sharingan to break out of kabutos genjutsu. So tayuyas genjutsu is fodder compared to kabutos genjutsu. Another example is alot of people can break out of yamatos wood release...but NOT alot of people can break out of hashiramas woid release. Same technique, diffrent power levels.
Sound 4 needed to go CS2 against tired and exhausted from mission genma and raido (leaf jonin)....zabuza alone could take or at the very least stalemate genma and raido.

evidence or no believance that it was soup up by kabtuo sage powers......