Naruto & Sasuke - As Alike as We are Unalike

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" Sasuke and I aren't real siblings, but I think we can make peace. "​ The more one dwells into these two characters, the more one realize that they are truly polar opposites, yet they are also alike in a great deal of ways. These characters were obviously made to resemble Yin and Yang in many ways. By the end of the manga, two paths collide and the result is a still stance, a draw. There is a reason why it ends that way, a very simple reason. But lets dwell into the characters a little before revealing that. " You have I could've easily been standing in each other's shoes right now. "​ From a very young age, their difference were apparent. Naruto is a born fool and idiot, a failure in the eyes of many Shinobi. Where as Sasuke is a born genius and a very talented Shinobi, renowned as prodigy by his peers and superiors alike. Naruto was hated by his fellow classmates and shunned by the adults of the village for the Bijuu within him, were as Sasuke was loved and looked up to by his peers and praised by his elders. One is a child of dark in the world of light and the other is a child of light in the world of dark. Naruto is a cheerful, energetic person with a warm soul that places others at peace. Sasuke is a cold, calm and logical person with a soul filled with dark. One had everything and lost it, the other had nothing and gained everything. Through hard work and will they both survived to walk their own paths and in the end these paths crossed. Naruto and Sasuke's characters show one thing and that is no matter you starting point, your destination can be the same. People have since the dawn of this series compared the two, trying to figure out which one is the best and which one is the strongest. The answer to it all? It is subjective, they are two different characters with two different personalities, but the same end goal and they reach the exact same height as one and other. Their final fight shows that, they end in a draw and they end in a draw as a way to show that they are alike, yet different. " We are both top-class Shinobi now, Sasuke. "​ This likeness is apparent in their fighting as well. One is precise and the other is destructive, yet they are equally deadly. One has a huge reserve, the other has a smaller reserve, yet they can fight for roughly the same amount of time. One fights with body and the other with spirit. They're polar opposites, yet the best in their respective form. If two opposites collide, they will nullify each other, and this is the case with these two. " I will break this circle of hatred! "​ The reason they end in a draw, the reason they nullify each other and they reason that they have to be equals. It lies all in the theme of the story, a circle. A circle of hatred, a circle of rivals and a circle of war. A war will last forever if both forces are equally strong and has infinite troops. In the same logic, a circle of hatred will last forever as long as there are two equal opposites to carry on each generation. However if these two equal forces start to work together, the path ahead will open up. So as unalike Sasuke and Naruto, they are also a lot alike.

 

[Monxstaa]

Must say well done.

 

[ROHAN]

I think you can even add this idea and expand it to include Kaguya. Kaguya was basically the Third Force/Power which was beyond the realm of Yin and Yang, i.e; Chakra and her sole intention was to make Yin and Yang to cease to exist and become one with Chakra. It's only after Naruto (Yang) and Sasuke (Yin) cooperate are they able to defeat Kaguya (Chakra).

Kaguya is basically the antithesis to the world of Yin and Yang. She basically was the Ultimate Evil who wanted to destroy the whole world of Yin and Yang just to fulfill her selfish desire of making everything into one as Chakra. This is also what I think makes Kaguya the most reasonable Final Villain, unlike Madara. Madara was not selfish as he wanted this chakra to dissapear and bring true Peace to the world. Kaguya doesn't care about Peace or War. She can be compared to the Void/Nothingness who only wanted to consume everything in existence. You can call her an extension to Tobi/Obito's nihilism because of her desire to destroy everything that Yin and Yang had built.

The base where Yin and Yang co-operated was solely due to Kaguya, not Madara. Sasuke (Yin) and Naruto (Yang) only co-operated because they wanted to stop Kaguya's plans in the long Run. Obito and Madara were basically deluded and tricked to further Kaguya's plans of mass destruction through a whole bunch of lies spread by Black Zetsu.

After Black Zetsu/Kaguya are defeated which only happened after Yin and Yang co-operated, the Final Battle between Naruto and Sasuke was done to remove the Bad Blood and differences that were created between them thanks to the manipulation of Kaguya. The Final Battle's main purpose was to remove the malignant corruption planted by Kaguya and re-assert peace between Yin and Yang by accepting their differences.

Basically, Kaguya the Third Force was not only responsible for creating the base conflict between Yin and Yang but also ironically became the sole cause for the co-operation of Yin and Yang which led to her defeat.

So, yeah your base idea of the co-operation between Yin and Yang is incomplete without the role of Kaguya, the antithesis of Yin and Yang being mentioned. I hope to see that in your next thread about Kaguya.

 

[NineSNS]

Well said. The analysis of the two characters in relation to each other is nicely done. +rep

 

[ROHAN]

Also one more point that I forgot to add :-

If you do not include Kaguya, your thread raises two major questions :-

1) Yin and Yang were in harmony in Hagoromo. What created the differences and started a war between Yin and Yang ?

2) What was the final basis for Yin and Yang to co-operate and achieve Peace ?

These questions can't be answered unless you include Kaguya. She was the sole reason for both things above happening.

 

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Also one more point that I forgot to add :-

If you do not include Kaguya, your thread raises two major questions :-

1) Yin and Yang were in harmony in Hagoromo. What created the differences and started a war between Yin and Yang ?

2) What was the final basis for Yin and Yang to co-operate and achieve Peace ?

These questions can't be answered unless you include Kaguya. She was the sole reason for both things above happening.

1) It was never in peace inside Hagoromo. His counterpart was Hamura, and they separated instead of working together. (After the defeat of the Juubi.) On top of that, Hagoromo contained the Juubi, which he never befriended. So he was far from in balance.

2) Their final basis was that one side gave into the other. (In this case Sasuke admitting defeat at ideals.)

 

[ROHAN]

1) It was never in peace inside Hagoromo. His counterpart was Hamura, and they separated instead of working together. (After the defeat of the Juubi.) On top of that, Hagoromo contained the Juubi, which he never befriended. So he was far from in balance.

2) Their final basis was that one side gave into the other. (In this case Sasuke admitting defeat at ideals.)

1) Yes it was. The Crescent Moon is the symbol of Yin and the Sun is the symbol of Yang. In Obito and Madara's hands; the staffs are separate because Yin and Yang were in conflict. But in Hagoromo's hands both staffs are united as one which shows that Yin and Yang are in harmony with each other. Once Hagoromo's sons are born, the Mantle of Yin is taken by Indra and the Mantle of Yang is taken over by Ashura. The seeds of disharmony and battle between Yin (Indra) and Ashura (Yang) were first sown by Black Zetsu the will of Kaguya.

What Hamura's power was (Just Extra Fluff) :-

Spoiler

I don't think Hamura was Yin (As a few people claim), because of A) He doesn't have the Moon Staff, He had a completely different Staff, B) The Yin and Yang seals were only in the possession of Hagoromo and C) Kaguya specifically states that The Yin and Yang seals are Hagoromo's power. If I look at it, it's obvious that Hagoromo represents the harmony between Yin and Yang (The Rinnegan is a symbol of that harmony).

Hamura was another separate force which co-operated with Hagoromo to defeat Kaguya. I think Hamura was perhaps associated with Natural Energy. Hamura's staff is a Japanese Rake which is used to tend to traditional Japanese Rock Gardens which ties in to the theme of Natural Energy (You can wiki it if you wish). I think Kaguya was Chakra, Hagoromo was Yin and Yang whereas Hamura was Shizen.

No, Hamura only separated from Hagoromo to guard the Gedo Mazou, Kaguya's shell trapped in the Moon to prevent another Apocalypse. Another reason was to ensure that Kaguya's chakra never re-awakened from the mixing of Hagoromo's and Hamura's chakra in their descendants line (Hagoromo + Hamura = Kaguya just like how Indra + Ashura = Hagoromo). In short, nowhere has it been shown that Hagoromo and Hamura were in conflict after the Defeat of Kaguya.

The Juubi was completely devoid of any sentience (As Kaguya's sentience was removed and became Black Zetsu). I don't understand how you can be-friend a mass of chakra without any conscience. Hagoromo used COAT to divide the Juubi's power and gave it conscience to create the Nine Bijuus. This was an attempt of Hagoromo to ensure interactions between the Bijuus and the World.

2) Not really as it puts the whole thing of the into question. One Force giving in to the other doesn't create Harmony, it creates Disequilibrium because the dominant force will start suppressing the recessive force. This happened when Hagoromo favored Ashura (Yang) over Indra (Yin) which created an imbalance (The second reason of the conflict between Yin and Yang).

Sasuke was basically following the path of Madara and Obito. He was basically becoming selfless for the sake of the Shinobi World. Just like Madara, Sasuke was destroying his own image to preserve the Shinobi World. When Sasuke gave in to Naruto, I think the real meaning was Sasuke realizing that he can't do everything by himself and knowing his own importance (That he doesn't have to destroy himself saving the World and become a Matryr).

The Final Battle's main purpose was to remove the malignant effects that Kaguya's influence caused (By which I mean the Selfless path that they took as a reaction) and re-establish Harmony.

 

[Dantee]

Deserves a bump

 

[Clover]

Deserves a bump

Oh well, thank you!