Naruto performed Ninshu on Sarada

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Did anyone else interpret the flashback in this weeks chapter the same way I did? To me, it seemed like when Naruto squeezed Sarada's arm for the second time, he sent his thoughts and feelings directly into her. Performing Ninshu.

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Followed by flashbacks of Naruto showing Sarada how they were similar growing up. How he understands her. Showing her how he was able to connect with her father and others even though they fought time and time again.

Followed by dialogue from Naruto as if Sarada saw everything in the flashback and knew what he was referencing.
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Remember this isn't the first time Naruto has done this. He did it during the war arc on a mass scale and helped everyone overcome their fears and unite.

It seems to me like Naruto hasn't only Matured immensely, he has also learned to utilize Ninshu in a diplomatic way to share his feelings with others. Creating a time (Like Jiraiya & Nagato wanted) where people can truly understand one another. He was able to take an Uchiha who'd fallen into despair due to her loss of "love/family", and re-kindle her desire to help her mother. Naruto is taking on a role of mentor/father for the village, guiding people in the right direction. Pretty powerful stuff actually. I think this strongly enforced Naruto's capability as a leader. He is not telling his villagers what to do or forcing their hand, but rather coming to an understanding with them, and guiding them forward.

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Essentially speaking, TNJ is a form of or type of Ninshuu, that's who Naruto is (Ashura)
 

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Essentially speaking, TNJ is a form of or type of Ninshuu, that's who Naruto is (Ashura)

Indeed, however I was referring to him actually sending his chakra/feelings into her directly as a way to get through to her.
 

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Naruto is a real sage now. He is continuing what Hagoromo started.
 

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Naruto is a real sage now. He is continuing what Hagoromo started.

^ This! While Naruto can and has used his words and actions as a way to win over the support of an enemy, or "turn someones frown up-side-down"... lol... If I'm right, this is the first time we've seen him utilize Ninshuu/his new abilities as a direct method to reach someones heart. (Without words)
 

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What you're talking about doesn't work quite like that.

Ninshuu happens when multiple chakras are connected; remember when Ino linked the whole alliance and Hashirama and Naruto's memories and feelings "flooded into everyone"? That was Ninshuu in action.

If you don't, Hashirama reflected on the Kage Summit and Naruto onto his childhood. People noted that they understood the aforementioned feelings and if I remember rightly, the former's spurred everyone onward.
 

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Very likely, I love how Naruto has matured.
 

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What you're talking about doesn't work quite like that.

Ninshuu happens when multiple chakras are connected; remember when Ino linked the whole alliance and Hashirama and Naruto's memories and feelings "flooded into everyone"? That was Ninshuu in action.

If you don't, Hashirama reflected on the Kage Summit and Naruto onto his childhood.

I interpreted it as him not physically speaking the flashbacks to Sarada, or just Naruto remembering them, but actually transmitting his memories and feelings to her directly.

I believe he actually connected his chakra to hers. Why would it need to be on a massive scale? If it works with thousands, it will work with a few. Or in this case, Two (naruto and Sarada)
 
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Wasn't Naruto mature since Part 2 beginning?

In a manner of speaking, yes. But Naruto has undergone an immense personal growth since then. Particularly since the Pain fight. Prior to the pain fight he was an advocate for good without direction. After the pain fight he he realized the direction he needed to go to obtain peace. Now that it is here, He is much more wise and mature about how he handles difficult situations. He has a much more calm-assertive demeanor
 

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yeh you're right thats exactly what happened thats why i believe there was an emphasis on the squeeze, he did it by accident in the war arc but now he has mastered it
 

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I interpreted it as him not physically speaking the flashbacks to Sarada, or just Naruto remembering them, but actually transmitting them to her directly.

I believe he actually connected his chakra to hers. Why would it need to be on a massive scale? If it works with thousands, it will work with a few. Or in this case, Two (naruto and Sarada)

What you're saying is that Naruto sent them with intent but that's not it. Ninshuu is supposed to connect people passively, not by active forcing them. And I never said it needed to be on a massive scale, just that it's the only actual examples of Ninshuu and in fact, it's is how Ninshuu was supposed to be anyway - connecting everyone through emotion and mutual understanding.

In other words, it happens on its own and doesn't work with forced intervention. You have the first bit right though; it isn't physically spoken, just an automatic silent process.
 

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so naruto finally master TNJ

just jk op it actually seem like sarada saw his flashbacks
 

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What you're saying is that Naruto sent them with intent but that's not it. Ninshuu is supposed to connect people passively, not by active forcing them. And I never said it needed to be on a massive scale, just that it's the only actual examples of Ninshuu and in fact, it's is how Ninshuu was supposed to be anyway - connecting everyone through emotion and mutual understanding.

In other words, it happens on its own and doesn't work with forced intervention. You have the first bit right though; it isn't physically spoken, just an automatic silent process.

I respectfully disagree. In the last example in my post, I showed the panel of how the Ninshuu works. The sage directly gave others chakra as a way connect with them emotionaly. That is forced intervention. He may not have sent his thoughts directly to someone at that time, but he certainly gave people the ability to communicate on a much deeper level without words.

Hypothetically, if your right, Naruto didn't send the images we saw directly to her brain, but he at least was able to connect his chakra with her, and show her that he has felt the same hurt, and has overcome it. Feelings rather than direct thoughts/memories. I don't believe it was just a simple "silent moment" where they both understood. In my opinion Sarada saw the images directly, or at minimum naruto conveyed the feelings behind them through Ninshuu/Chakra conneciton.
 
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Your spot on, this was Ninshuu in action. He TNJ Ninshuu'd Sarada before she even got started being an Uchiha Teme :p. Dat Naruto.

All that guff about it being a "passive" force couldn't be more wrong.

Ninshuu comes out when powerful ninja fight, just as Sasuke and Naruto discovered in in their first fight. Naruto has mastered this ability to a very potent level. In that context they were both using Ninshuu trying to make each other understand by force if necessary. In that battle it was Naruto that understood, in the second Vote it was Sasuke.

To understand someone you have to WANT to do so. No one would understand anyone if they didn't try. Naruto can and has shown people his heart and feelings...its up to them to understand them, in that context its him wishing for them to understand his pain.

There is nothing forceful about showing someone your experiences and sharing your feelings with them. Its simply grants them the perspective needed to make a choice...to understand or not. Its only forceful if you try to dominate their thoughts, if you only provide perspective on a subject, how is that forceful?

By your definition of "force" any unintentional or intentional sharing would be forceful....Sorry but as shown in Naruto you sometimes have to kick someones ass to force them to understand...Aka Sasuke, Nagato, Obito...need I go on?

Naruto showed this quite adeptly in the latest chapter.
 
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Your spot on, this was Ninshuu in action. He TNJ Ninshuu'd Sarada before she even got started being an Uchiha Teme :p. Dat Naruto.

All that guff about it being a "passive" force couldn't be more wrong.

Ninshuu comes out when powerful ninja fight, just as Sasuke and Naruto discovered in in their first fight. Naruto has mastered this ability to a very potent level. In that context they were both using Ninshuu trying to make each other understand by force if necessary. In that battle it was Naruto that understood, in the second Vote it was Sasuke.

To understand someone you have to WANT to do so. No one would understand anyone if they didn't try. Naruto can and has shown people his heart and feelings...its up to them to understand them, in that context its him wishing for them to understand his pain.

There is nothing forceful about showing someone your experiences and sharing your feelings with them. Its simply grants them the perspective needed to make a choice...to understand or not. Its only forceful if you try to dominate their thoughts, if you only provide perspective on a subject, how is that forceful?

By your definition of "force" any unintentional or intentional sharing would be forceful....Sorry but as shown in Naruto you sometimes have to kick someones ass to force them to understand...Aka Sasuke, Nagato, Obito...need I go on?

Naruto showed this quite adeptly in the latest chapter.

Thanks! I like the way you worded "It simply grants them the perspective needed to make a choice". I think that is what Ninshuu is all about. It's not about forcing someone to believe the same as you but rather the ability to fully understand your point of view where they otherwise may never have. From there they can choose how they want to act once given that information. I like that Naruto did not force Sarada to do anything. He simply took her pain, showed her that he truly understood, and "gave her the perspective needed to make a choice." Thankfully that choice was to help save Sakura, and verify their love once more.

He's been able to use that. He had Kurama connect his chakra to everyone.

Yes he has, but during the war it was unintentional. His thoughts and feelings were flowing frantically, and since he was already connected via Kurama's chakra, everyone was able to "listen in" on a massive scale. The difference here is that Naruto actively, and directly communicated with Sarada by choice. Proving he really has mastered his chakra control and TNJ. lol
 
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