Naruto or Raikage

[Icemyster]

if kiba had kept his composure naruto would have lost.

neji got arrogant and began toying with naruto which resulted in his defeat, as we all know an active byakugan sees EVERYTHING, including a punch from below. and not to mention in close range combat neji is faster than sasuke,, so y is it that he wasn't able to dodge one punch?

there would have been no fox if hinata had not jumped in when she did. and if the yellow flash did not contain the fox naruto would have killed himself (the nine tails was not only to great for pein, but naruto as well) god realm is the only one that is truly powerful the others are just support.

in deidara's case you state the impossible naruto had no high range vertical moves at that time (in fact he still doesn't) from a distance deidara is probably in the top 3 most powerful ninja. he even wears the scope to heighten long distance vision. and deidara has shown competence in short range combat when he fought sasuke.

Naruto would Beat out Kiba, point blank.

Neji woulda coulda shoulda won. But his personality defeated him. But now Im more than sure he would beat naruto, and the Raikage from that matter.

Pein, idk what to say about him........as for the fox, the fourth knew the day would come to where he would need to save Naruto from the sealed fox, it was pre-planned. So no, Pein was the only one that would lose there.

Deidara isnt strong enough to take A rasengan, And we all know Naruto is a straight genious when it comes to close combat. He would Find A way

 

[Deidara...]

Naruto would Beat out Kiba, point blank.

Neji woulda coulda shoulda won. But his personality defeated him. But now Im more than sure he would beat naruto, and the Raikage from that matter.

Pein, idk what to say about him........as for the fox, the fourth knew the day would come to where he would need to save Naruto from the sealed fox, it was pre-planned. So no, Pein was the only one that would lose there.

Deidara isnt strong enough to take A rasengan, And we all know Naruto is a straight genious when it comes to close combat. He would Find A way

naruto falling victim to the fox was preplanned, and saves him from it that much is indisputable. however the fox would have never entered if hinata dd not save him, and pein would have wiped the floor with naruto if he would have had to figure out pein's secrets on his own as opposed to having the info from everyone else fed to him by katsuyu. it took Intel and assistance from from almost the entire village to defeat pein. to entertain the idea that naruto could defeat him on his own (without his main character advantage or any assistance) is misinformed and irrational.

deidara is not going to be hit with a rasengan. he had to battle sasuke in close combat because sasuke was capable of vertical movement. naruto would not have been able to reach him. deidara is different from the other ninja he tests your mobility than he finds an opening than he kills you. no toying to make the battle last longer. he enjoys a sudden burst and then silence. and naruto is not a genius he works hard and reaps the benefits of diligence.

and nobody can take a rasengan and still be functioning. if kabuto, who is also capable of extreme regeneration can't withstand an imperfect version there arent many people who can.

 

[Icemyster]

naruto falling victim to the fox was preplanned, and saves him from it that much is indisputable. however the fox would have never entered if hinata dd not save him, and pein would have wiped the floor with naruto if he would have had to figure out pein's secrets on his own as opposed to having the info from everyone else fed to him by katsuyu. it took Intel and assistance from from almost the entire village to defeat pein. to entertain the idea that naruto could defeat him on his own (without his main character advantage or any assistance) is misinformed and irrational.

deidara is not going to be hit with a rasengan. he had to battle sasuke in close combat because sasuke was capable of vertical movement. naruto would not have been able to reach him. deidara is different from the other ninja he tests your mobility than he finds an opening than he kills you. no toying to make the battle last longer. he enjoys a sudden burst and then silence. and naruto is not a genius he works hard and reaps the benefits of diligence.

and nobody can take a rasengan and still be functioning. if kabuto, who is also capable of extreme regeneration can't withstand an imperfect version there arent many people who can.

he recieved help from an already defeated village.

And the whole deidara thing had already pissed naruto off, as he had the fox running through him already, he could have easily let one of those fox chakra hands out and grabbed deidara long range, just grabbing him would kill him due to the corrosive nature of the fox.

When it comes down to it,

Naruto+Fox=Death

 

[Deidara...]

he recieved help from an already defeated village.

And the whole deidara thing had already pissed naruto off, as he had the fox running through him already, he could have easily let one of those fox chakra hands out and grabbed deidara long range, just grabbing him would kill him due to the corrosive nature of the fox.

When it comes down to it,

Naruto+Fox=Death

beneficial help is still beneficial, regardless of the source. and either way the village was defeated several minutes before naruto's arrival. and naruto was defeated in a pein v.s. naruto fight. (had peins objective been to kill him, naruto would have died before hinata could save him, by angering him through her death)

deidara made naruto angry on purpose (slapping his dead friend in the face and sitting on his corpse)

and if you think that one arm stretch will be enough to kill deidara than you might as well say he doesn't deserve to be in akatsuki. he was capable of pulling off a substitution after being caught in a genjutsu. there is no way he would be killed by a projectile style move that he can see coming, and doesn't restrict him in anyway on his avians deidara is quite capable of advanced movement (gaara fight)

 

[Icemyster]

beneficial help is still beneficial, regardless of the source. and either way the village was defeated several minutes before naruto's arrival. and naruto was defeated in a pein v.s. naruto fight. (had peins objective been to kill him, naruto would have died before hinata could save him, by angering him through her death)

deidara made naruto angry on purpose (slapping his dead friend in the face and sitting on his corpse)

and if you think that one arm stretch will be enough to kill deidara than you might as well say he doesn't deserve to be in akatsuki. he was capable of pulling off a substitution after being caught in a genjutsu. there is no way he would be killed by a projectile style move that he can see coming, and doesn't restrict him in anyway on his avians deidara is quite capable of advanced movement (gaara fight)

he got grabbed by gaara.
nuff said

 

[Deidara...]

he got grabbed by gaara.
nuff said

no, that isnt enough said. gaaras sand isnt projectile in its motion.
gaara can guide the sand in deidaras direction. not to mention deidara wasnt able to put alot of distance between himself and gaara's sand. narutos attacks will be attached to him so the way he fights gaara won't be anything like how gaara fought him. and in any case the sand was capable defending and attacking at the same time, any cloaks less than four tails will not be able to sheild naruto in the same manner. and if he goes to four tails he loses the ability to stretch.

 

[yusufms]

naruto falling victim to the fox was preplanned, and saves him from it that much is indisputable. however the fox would have never entered if hinata dd not save him, and pein would have wiped the floor with naruto if he would have had to figure out pein's secrets on his own as opposed to having the info from everyone else fed to him by katsuyu. it took Intel and assistance from from almost the entire village to defeat pein. to entertain the idea that naruto could defeat him on his own (without his main character advantage or any assistance) is misinformed and irrational.

deidara is not going to be hit with a rasengan. he had to battle sasuke in close combat because sasuke was capable of vertical movement. naruto would not have been able to reach him. deidara is different from the other ninja he tests your mobility than he finds an opening than he kills you. no toying to make the battle last longer. he enjoys a sudden burst and then silence. and naruto is not a genius he works hard and reaps the benefits of diligence.

and nobody can take a rasengan and still be functioning. if kabuto, who is also capable of extreme regeneration can't withstand an imperfect version there arent many people who can.

Look, no matter how you look at it, the only way naruto would have escaped was if he went 9tails on pains a**. Hinata was simply the medium used to activate that anger...PERIOD

 

[Icemyster]

no, that isnt enough said. gaaras sand isnt projectile in its motion.
gaara can guide the sand in deidaras direction. not to mention deidara wasnt able to put alot of distance between himself and gaara's sand. narutos attacks will be attached to him so the way he fights gaara won't be anything like how gaara fought him. and in any case the sand was capable defending and attacking at the same time, any cloaks less than four tails will not be able to sheild naruto in the same manner. and if he goes to four tails he loses the ability to stretch.

lol no he doesnt. the fox controls the demon fox hands. not even sasuke could read the movement of the chakra. it can go long range

 

[Honord Sage]

Kakasi already stated that Wind Rasengan wins every time over Raikage, The Question is Sage Wind Rasengan is how much more stronger than Raikage? and what will Naruto do against Fire Jutsu? a collaboration Jutsu or dose He also have water element from His Mother from the land of whirlpools?

 

[Deidara...]

Look, no matter how you look at it, the only way naruto would have escaped was if he went 9tails on pains a**. Hinata was simply the medium used to activate that anger...PERIOD

thats my point. sage mode naruto, by himself, was not enough to stop pein, and even if he did manage to kill god realm naruto would have had to release all 9 tails to do so, which would kill him in the process. then the real pein would take his mobile trash can and leave as the victor.

lol no he doesnt. the fox controls the demon fox hands. not even sasuke could read the movement of the chakra. it can go long range

sasuke could read the movements it took him a while before he could but he got there. and the main difference is that if you are far away a fast attack is not as deadly because you can see it coming and have more time to respond.

naruto remains in control of the cloak at tails 1-3 so the fox is only supplying chakra at this point. there is only insinuation that the arm extensions can go long range, no actual proof.

can you honestly say that if kakashi hadn't stayed with naruto that diedara would not have dealt with naruto swiftly. (deidara is not like sasori he likes for thing to be quick and explosive, not long and drawn out. so long as his target is available)

Kakasi already stated that Wind Rasengan wins every time over Raikage, The Question is Sage Wind Rasengan is how much more stronger than Raikage? and what will Naruto do against Fire Jutsu? a collaboration Jutsu or dose He also have water element from His Mother from the land of whirlpools?

kakashi doesn't even know what the raikage is capable of so that statement has no validity. rasen shuriken will only hit an already dead raikage anyone who disputes that is an idiot for lack of a better word.

and im more than sure you dont really have any clue as to what we are currently talking about.

 

[Icemyster]

thats my point. sage mode naruto, by himself, was not enough to stop pein, and even if he did manage to kill god realm naruto would have had to release all 9 tails to do so, which would kill him in the process. then the real pein would take his mobile trash can and leave as the victor.



sasuke could read the movements it took him a while before he could but he got there. and the main difference is that if you are far away a fast attack is not as deadly because you can see it coming and have more time to respond.

naruto remains in control of the cloak at tails 1-3 so the fox is only supplying chakra at this point. there is only insinuation that the arm extensions can go long range, no actual proof.

can you honestly say that if kakashi hadn't stayed with naruto that diedara would not have dealt with naruto swiftly. (deidara is not like sasori he likes for thing to be quick and explosive, not long and drawn out. so long as his target is available)



kakashi doesn't even know what the raikage is capable of so that statement has no validity. rasen shuriken will only hit an already dead raikage anyone who disputes that is an idiot for lack of a better word.

and im more than sure you dont really have any clue as to what we are currently talking about.

he can send fox chakra through the ground and multiple fox hands spring up from the ground.

that is a long rang move.

As shown in his fight with orochimaru

 

[Deidara...]

he can send fox chakra through the ground and multiple fox hands spring up from the ground.

that is a long rang move.

As shown in his fight with orochimaru

excellent counter. however if kakashi had not interfered naruto would have been blown to smithereens before tail 4. which is why i only referenced tails 1-3

 

[Icemyster]

excellent counter. however if kakashi had not interfered naruto would have been blown to smithereens before tail 4. which is why i only referenced tails 1-3

we all know that no one can beat main characteritus. Sasuke did once but couldnt finish it cuz the itus caught him.

 

[Missing Uchiha]

when naruto controls the nine tails and get the power of rikodu senni 2 born i think naruto

 

[Astral]

I think naruto would barely win, because they already said that raikage also had chakra levels like a tailed beast, and we all know that raikage trained with kirabi for most of his life, thats why the 8 tails is a "perfect host". But they also said that being a sage is on a whole new level, which would probably be in raikage's league, i dont think raikage can throw a monstrous summon like nothing when its charing at him full force xd

I think naruto would deffinitly end up using both his shadow clones at mt. myobuku for more sage chakra, however naruto wouldn't be throwing FRS at raikage, i think it would be alot of taijutsi, then an exchange of an incredible jutsu between eachother then perhaps more taijutsu

 

[~ Killer S ~]

I don't think Raikage will win.because he already loose to Sasuke.

 

[Pervyy]

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[SkylineR34]

I think Raikage will win 'cause of is experience in combat...and he's more faster and stronger than Naruto...But I think if Naruto will use Kyuubi's chakra he'll have some chances...But that's just my opinion...CYA