Naruto only reached Minato's level of speed after achieving BM

[Kages]

I agree

 

[fastrthnwind]

True, but what i'm comparing here is their overall speed in battle. Obviously teleportation will always be faster

Lol, because i got time to make these threads Concerning the page where he dodged Raikage's punch i don't consider it because i believe he didn't master it at that moment. Proof of it is that Kakashi fought all along with KM Naruto and didn't even once compared their speed. Only when he entered BM, that Kakashi compared their speed. It was obviously a hint Kishi gave us to understand that BM Naruto finally rivalled Minato's speed

Minato has adjusted his fighting style so that takes advantage of his incredible speed and reflexes, meaning that his speed has been integrated into his fightning style. Naruto hasnt trained to use his speed because he relies mostly on shadow clone jutsus to get things done for him, and only uses speed whenever necessary, due to his lack of control over it.

 

[Bogard]

Minato has adjusted his fighting style so that takes advantage of his incredible speed and reflexes, meaning that his speed has been integrated into his fightning style. Naruto hasnt trained to use his speed because he relies mostly on shadow clone jutsus to get things done for him, and only uses speed whenever necessary, due to his lack of control over it.

I agree. Couldn't have said it better

 

[warlee]

Kcm naruto did what minato did (both dodge the fastest man in the same manner) so i think they are around equal there. Kakashi didn't know what 4th raikage knows about minato speed because they fought many times. Anyway i believe bm naruto can blitz minato before he react (A was only inches away from his face) albeit w/ a suprise attack.

 

[KingHashirama]

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Also, Yamato was right hes wasn't on the fourth's level cause he got his foot stuck.. lmao.

Also, Naruto didn't master the speed.... soo yea. ^_^ And he did surpass Raikage with KCM.

 

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Naruto and A depended on speed, Minato by teleportation, there's a difference between speed and teleportation, speed travels in motion, teleportation is instant.

 

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Naruto and A depended on speed, Minato by teleportation, there's a difference between speed and teleportation, speed travels in motion, teleportation is instant.

 

[NarutoisSOSP]

Go back and read he matches minatos speed aftr he dodges raikages punch in BM MODE! And he got KM after that so no.

 

[Bogard]

Go back and read he matches minatos speed aftr he dodges raikages punch in BM MODE! And he got KM after that so no.

Already know that, but what i'm saying is that his speed wasn't still Minato's level. It's only after achieving BM that Kakashi saw Minato's level of speed

 

[Turson]

If we are talking about foot speed, then both KCM and BM Naruto are faster than Minato. As for teleportation... it will always be faster than any movement, no matter how fast.

 

[Bogard]

If we are talking about foot speed, then both KCM and BM Naruto are faster than Minato.

Minato shunshin'd infront of Obito so fast that he thought about a yellow flash. Minato outran an already exploding tag with footspeed, Minato shunshin'd thru an entire village with footspeed, so what makes you believe he is faster in KM or even BM?

 

[Owarij]

Naruto will never be as fast as Minato unless he learns some ability to instantly get to another point
If we're talking of his base, he isn't as fast as km naruto, or he would have been able to dodge v2 A with foot speed... he's
Minato is the fastest in the manga because of ftg and I don't believe anyone will beat this anytime soon

 

[Bogard]

Naruto will never be as fast as Minato unless he learns some ability to instantly get to another point
If we're talking of his base, he isn't as fast as km naruto, or he would have been able to dodge v2 A with foot speed... he's
Minato is the fastest in the manga because of ftg and I don't believe anyone will beat this anytime soon

For me it's more like Minato simply took advantage of his teleportation ability. Why dodge a punch with base speed if you can teleport yourself? Especially at that particular moment where he needed to counter-attack(reason why he waited the last second to throw the kunai above A)

 

[Turson]

Minato shunshin'd infront of Obito so fast that he thought about a yellow flash. Minato outran an already exploding tag with footspeed, Minato shunshin'd thru an entire village with footspeed, so what makes you believe he is faster in KM or even BM?

Their representative brawls with A, whearas Naruto was able to dodge him with only his footspeed, Minato was forced to use his teleportation.

 

[Bogard]

Their representative brawls with A, whearas Naruto was able to dodge him with only his footspeed, Minato was forced to use his teleportation.

Read what i said above:

For me it's more like Minato simply took advantage of his teleportation ability. Why dodge a punch with base speed if you can teleport yourself? Especially at that particular moment where he needed to counter-attack(reason why he waited the last second to throw the kunai above A)

Furthermore i can also say that KM Naruto was not even able to dodge Raikage's punch in V1(only blocked it). The only moment where he dodged is on the last pic when Raikage came at full speed, which shows that he didn't really master his speed at that moment

 

[Turson]

Why dodge a punch with base speed if you can teleport yourself?

First of all, I dont believe that Minato would be able to dodge that with only his foot speed. Why?

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-> Looking at Minatos face its clear for me that he managed to detect A only when his fist was already centimeters from his face.

 

[Bogard]

First of all, I dont believe that Minato would be able to dodge that with only his foot speed. Why?

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-> Looking at Minatos face its clear for me that he managed to detect A only when his fist was already centimeters from his face.

Not really. Minato already noticed Raikage earlier on the pic before it(you can notice the lightning coming at Minato):

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If Minato really wanted only to dodge, he had enough time to do that since FTG is instant. But like i've said, he waited Raikage on purpose. Why? Because he wanted to throw the kunai above him point blank unnoticed to counter-attack with his same FTG and blitz him

 

[OnPoint]

Yamato said he wasn't on the fourth's level because he couldn't yet control his speed/shunshin. The 'Yellow Flash' metaphor can't be ignored. Kyūbi Mode Naruto, despite never being able to equal or better Hiraishin's instantaneous teleportation, reached Minato's level once he avoided Yondaime Raikage's maximum speed.

 

[Turson]

Not really. Minato already noticed Raikage earlier on the pic before it(you can notice the lightning coming at Minato):

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-> Looking at Minatos face its obvious that A's speed surprised him. Throwing that kunai is a great feat, but it doesnt change the fact that FTG was required.

 

[Bogard]

That only proves my point further. As your link shows, Minato was expecting that A is going charge at him, and yet...

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-> Looking at Minatos face its obvious that A's speed surprised him. Throwing that kunai is a great feat, but it doesnt change the fact that FTG was required.

Maybe it's just me, but tbh i don't see Minato surprised on that pic. I just see a ninja calmly waiting for his opportunity to strike. A further proof of that is that he did threw that kunai. A surprised guy wouldn't even have had the time to do that